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Post by Deleted on May 12, 2016 15:33:49 GMT
The faith want a good ruler so I doubt Gendry is someone they would be backing. I don't see how that is possible or a path the show would go down. Oops I did it again @hippocras Man phone sucks I would say what the Faith wants is a King who is nice and maleable, and firmly under the thumb of the Faith. For now they are content with Tommen because he can fit those criteria well. But if his parentage becomes a bigger issue, or if he dies, they will need someone else who they can control. Gendry is not exactly tame or stupid or easily manipulated, but by this point he may well be genuinely converted to the Faith, and he knows what he does not know, which makes him a good candidate for them. In Season 5 they didn't want to supplant Tommen because that would give the Throne to Stannis, who is an infidel. Now that Boltons triumphed over Stannis, there's no problem. But I assume that High Sparrow is now content with making Tommen his puppet.
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Post by stoneheartsrevenge on May 12, 2016 17:07:25 GMT
I only give a shit about Gendry in relation to Arya. If those two don't meet up again than I don't see why he should return to the show. Unless he does something else useful but I doubt it. A theory I find super interesting if not extremely likely, is that the Faith Militant will put Gendry forward as the rightful king (assuming of course that he is one of them). Last time we saw Gendry in the books he was certainly angry and lost enough to become a Sparrow anyways. And it wouldn't take them long to figure out who he is. In the show he rowed to KL and so far that is where all the Sparrow action is in the show as well. Not sure if you mean in the books or show, but in the books that is a definite no go. Gendry is a follower of R'hllor. He refuses to pray with Meribald and he other children in the Orphange. The Faith would not back him. Maybe they'd back Edric in the book though, should someone produce him. Though I think them more likely to support Aegon. Show-wise, I don't expect to see Gendry again. Feels like his story is done pretty much
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Post by Mecha-StannisForever on May 12, 2016 17:19:55 GMT
Are people seriously believing that the Umbers will turn on the Boltons on the show?
"Put this little album together to prove this exact point. There is no way that was a direwolf head as it is too small and even and Umber would need 2 hands likely to carry it."People are just so hopeful and delusional. The Umbers are 100% on the Boltons side this season. Why would he hand over Rickon if that wasn't the case? This theory right here reeks of fingers most stained... The Manderly's (hopefully) will be the ones to turn.
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Post by Deleted on May 12, 2016 18:34:34 GMT
Wow.
https://www.reddit.com/r/asoiaf/comments/4j19su/spoilers_everything_crazy_meta_realization_of_the/
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Post by Singer of Death on May 12, 2016 19:30:29 GMT
Whew! Finally return back here and watched the episode.
Just watched the episode and it's very good, though not nearly epic as the last one. Although it's slow-pace, but that's the way it should be since it's only the 3rd episode.
My favorites are the TOJ (especially Bran's part), Darth Jon, King's Landing (gotta love Pycelle), and Arya's scene.
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Post by boojam on May 13, 2016 13:56:37 GMT
Was there a discussion around here about how Dawn got sheathed? Dayne had it suck in the ground just moments before the melee broke out.
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Post by Father of Dragons on May 13, 2016 15:09:56 GMT
Was there a discussion around here about how Dawn got sheathed? Dayne had it suck in the ground just moments before the melee broke out. I had to go back and check but Dayne didn't take Dawn out the ground and then sheathe it, he just unsheathed the other sword at the same time as taking Dawn out the ground.
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Post by Deleted on May 13, 2016 19:15:09 GMT
Wow. https://www.reddit.com/r/asoiaf/comments/4j19su/spoilers_everything_crazy_meta_realization_of_the/ OMG I love this soooo much! Thanks for finding that. I've not had time to keep track of the actual great posts on reddit. This is me. I first read the first book and the description of Tower of Joy 20 years ago so I feel like the flashback was to a time that long ago haha!
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Post by Deleted on May 13, 2016 19:32:31 GMT
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Post by boojam on May 13, 2016 21:34:17 GMT
Was there a discussion around here about how Dawn got sheathed? Dayne had it suck in the ground just moments before the melee broke out. I had to go back and check but Dayne didn't take Dawn out the ground and then sheathe it, he just unsheathed the other sword at the same time as taking Dawn out the ground. Yeah I looked at it again, the camera angle is tight enough if you don't look close , and goes by fast, you don't notice that he does pull Dawn out of the ground.
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Post by Deleted on May 13, 2016 22:42:29 GMT
Pretty good curtain call for Owen Teale over on WOTW. watchersonthewall.com/curtain-call-owen-teale/Particularly in my rewatches and with the above Beautiful Death in mind, that was really the perfect way for Thorne to go. He got to justify himself in 601 and say his piece before he was hanged And he didn't apologize or beg or anything. Other than Stannis, no one's died so in-character in the show imo.
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Post by Deleted on May 13, 2016 22:47:10 GMT
Pretty good curtain call for Owen Teale over on WOTW. watchersonthewall.com/curtain-call-owen-teale/Particularly in my rewatches and with the above Beautiful Death in mind, that was really the perfect way for Thorne to go. He got to justify himself in 601 and say his piece before he was hanged And he didn't apologize or beg or anything. Other than Stannis, no one's died so in-character in the show imo. In the end, I felt like Thorne was really the only one who took full accountability for his actions and was resigned to his fate. He gets mad respect for that.
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Post by 7timesdamnedshewolf on May 13, 2016 23:56:55 GMT
Pretty good curtain call for Owen Teale over on WOTW. watchersonthewall.com/curtain-call-owen-teale/Particularly in my rewatches and with the above Beautiful Death in mind, that was really the perfect way for Thorne to go. He got to justify himself in 601 and say his piece before he was hanged And he didn't apologize or beg or anything. Other than Stannis, no one's died so in-character in the show imo. In the end, I felt like Thorne was really the only one who took full accountability for his actions and was resigned to his fate. He gets mad respect for that. idt olly had any rygrittes either. i'm not giving thorne points for not being a coward or a hypocrite. the other two officers would have never had the balls to do anything if he hadn't masterminded the mutiny but there was no reason given why he needed to involve a child in murder and treason, he used olly just bc he could, hoping to hurt jon all the more by having his little protege deliver the final blow. he prob sincerely believed he was doing right as a true nw-man but there was also a years-long petty grudge and a little bit of sadism going on there.
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Post by stoneheartsrevenge on May 14, 2016 0:00:44 GMT
Top marks for rygrittes pun I do kind of respect Thorne the most of all the Mutineers, but not sure I feel sympathy for him. Especially when he has undoubtedly heard numerous eye witness accounts of Hardhome
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Post by Deleted on May 14, 2016 0:29:01 GMT
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Post by freypies on May 14, 2016 0:31:12 GMT
Oh man, I really love the four crows in the sky!
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Post by Deleted on May 14, 2016 0:33:28 GMT
I see he's a cocky jerk in real life too - hah!
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Post by Nezzer on May 14, 2016 0:56:37 GMT
It took me a while to figure out who he was. The desperate Rickoning truthers will probably use this now to fuel their denial
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Post by DaveyJoe on May 14, 2016 3:36:50 GMT
Interesting use of thorns on the noose. Symbolic for the traitors sealing their own fate, but I wonder if it might tease some negative consequences toward Jon. Every time a Stark executes somebody they die, but this wasn't a beheading so it doesn't fit that parallel. Oh wait, Alliser Thorne.
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Post by Deleted on May 14, 2016 3:47:21 GMT
Those Beautiful Death poster's are always gorgeous. I think the RW one is still my favorite.
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