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Post by Deleted on May 12, 2016 3:39:39 GMT
I hope Ramsay tries to "hunt" Osha like he did to that girl in season 4, but Osha with her super-sharp wildling instincts actually manages to elude him. Even Theon seems aware that there are ways to confuse Ramsay's hounds. And it would show Ramsay is not an invincible superhero all the time. Please I 2nd this. I just don't want her locked in a room getting Jeyne Poole'd. The most optimistic guess I can think of is that Rams sends her to the Wall to deliver a message to Jon and Sansa. That's plausible enough, I think, but I won't hold my breath for anything too pleasant to happen.
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Post by boojam on May 12, 2016 9:35:52 GMT
I don't know, I think that if the LoL were real and knew Jon and Beric were coming back, he would keep them in a limbo of sorts instead of sending them to the LoL heaven or whatever straight away. Or maybe they did go to that heaven and the LoL wiped out their memories for whatever reason before bringing them back. Yeah, the "there was nothing" lines from Beric and Jon are tricky. I think it's the author's way of saying that life must be lived now, and they work well enough on those terms. Doesn't stand up to scrutiny when you think about it, though. First of all, if Jon remembers "there was nothing", there had to be something, because you can't remember something that doesn't exist. And if he truly remembers nothing, then there's no need to be emo about it. In his head, it's like he died and immediately woke up again. Either way, this statement is no proof that there are no gods, or even that there is no afterlife in this universe. Not sure I understand your definition of remember. I am aware of no memory of what it was like before I was born. At least no physical cognizance of existence except that which I have learned since my name day.
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Post by boojam on May 12, 2016 9:48:12 GMT
Here's something curious I just found while perusing the interactive pages for HBO's "Game of Thrones Viewer's Guide" thingie... viewers-guide.hbo.com/game-of-thrones/season-6/episode-3/people/29/eddison-tollettDolorous Edd gets his very own Bio page now! I didn't know his real name was "Eddison" or that he joined the Night's Watch when he was 15. But what about this bit: "After his death and resurrection, Jon Snow named Edd acting Lord Commander of the Night's Watch until a proper election"
Even tho George has only implied it and the show has been on-screen about it , the dark forces about to fall upon the Wall so outnumber the Night's Watch they seem like daffodils about to be blown away by a tornado. I am guessing the only power now is the magic of the Wall. Still the crows are in need of like one hundred thousand replacement troops.* *In the books the Wildlings that passed through the Wall numbered in maybe the several hundred thousand, plus a herd of Mammoths and a gang of Giants.
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Post by boojam on May 12, 2016 10:02:59 GMT
HBO Viewer's Guide still refuses to confirm how Greatjon died. Damn it. HBO's viewer guide has always been skimpy about the features they have, besides Inside the Episode, they have only one video feature with an interview-narrative with Peter, Nathalie and Jacob, the other features are HBO prose interviews with Carice and Tom Wlaschiha, why couldn't those be live interviews? Mace is there , but not sentence is uttered about his mission to the Iron Bank or Trant's murder. Thinking about it since Cersei now had ClankingStein , fuck Trant.
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Post by Deleted on May 12, 2016 10:03:51 GMT
I think the key will be defeating the NK. Even with all of westeros turning up for the fight they could never win no matter how many numbers they have. The army of the dead will grow for every soldier that dies.
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Post by boojam on May 12, 2016 10:32:25 GMT
I think the key will be defeating the NK. Even with all of westeros turning up for the fight they could never win no matter how many numbers they have. The army of the dead will grow for every soldier that dies. From the novels (and the show still shadows the story) GRRM implies that the big factor will be Dany and the dragons plus some other magical factors like Valyrian swords and , I guess, dragon glass. Also that forces in Essos are worried too , seeming all of the Faith of R'hllor. The followers of R'hllor , seemingly, have seen this coming for a long time , one reason for getting involved with the Houses of Westeros , maybe Varys and Illyrio Mopatis. Illyrio seems to have been watching over the two Targaryens (maybe more so over Dany) than for reasons of gaining wealth. Lots of outside forces in play in mysterious ways.
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Post by boojam on May 12, 2016 10:48:28 GMT
Luke Roberts (Ser Arthur Dayne) has this twit: www.combatartsuk.com/#!Testimonial-Luke-Roberts/cvk5/56d4306c0cf249e9dfcb9b8a but I don't think Gordon McAdam is his stunt double in the fight sequence.
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Post by boojam on May 12, 2016 10:59:35 GMT
I have seen several reviews of this episode that miss the shot of Dawn. Looking at it again in a freeze frame the blade does look a bit strange , as if the lighting on the scene did not pick it up most of the time.
By the by Luke confirms it is Dawn:
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Post by DaveyJoe on May 12, 2016 11:13:43 GMT
If you think Gendry is still rowing, you lack imagination. He made it to King's Landing, 3 years ago, and is doing any number of things. ASOIAF/GoT is supposed to stimulate your imagination, not connect every dot and fill in every line like a Mad Lib.
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Post by Deleted on May 12, 2016 11:42:27 GMT
If you think Gendry is still rowing, you lack imagination. He made it to King's Landing, 3 years ago, and is doing any number of things. ASOIAF/GoT is supposed to stimulate your imagination, not connect every dot and fill in every line like a Mad Lib. I think most people are joking when they say Gendry is "still rowing" like Joe Dempsie did himself.
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Post by Deleted on May 12, 2016 11:47:54 GMT
I only give a shit about Gendry in relation to Arya. If those two don't meet up again than I don't see why he should return to the show. Unless he does something else useful but I doubt it.
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Post by DaveyJoe on May 12, 2016 11:48:07 GMT
If you think Gendry is still rowing, you lack imagination. He made it to King's Landing, 3 years ago, and is doing any number of things. ASOIAF/GoT is supposed to stimulate your imagination, not connect every dot and fill in every line like a Mad Lib. I think most people are joking when they say Gendry is "still rowing" like Joe Dempsie did himself. If only you knew how often that was presented as a genuine writing flaw of the show at the other forum. I may have overreacted without proper context, but let's face it: you all know me to be impatient and humorless.
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Post by Deleted on May 12, 2016 11:49:17 GMT
Are people seriously believing that the Umbers will turn on the Boltons on the show? " Put this little album together to prove this exact point. There is no way that was a direwolf head as it is too small and even and Umber would need 2 hands likely to carry it." People are just so hopeful and delusional. The Umbers are 100% on the Boltons side this season.
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Post by Deleted on May 12, 2016 11:58:59 GMT
I only give a shit about Gendry in relation to Arya. If those two don't meet up again than I don't see why he should return to the show. Unless he does something else useful but I doubt it. A theory I find super interesting if not extremely likely, is that the Faith Militant will put Gendry forward as the rightful king (assuming of course that he is one of them). Last time we saw Gendry in the books he was certainly angry and lost enough to become a Sparrow anyways. And it wouldn't take them long to figure out who he is. In the show he rowed to KL and so far that is where all the Sparrow action is in the show as well.
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Post by DaveyJoe on May 12, 2016 12:00:14 GMT
Are people seriously believing that the Umbers will turn on the Boltons on the show? " Put this little album together to prove this exact point. There is no way that was a direwolf head as it is too small and even and Umber would need 2 hands likely to carry it." People are just so hopeful and delusional. The Umbers are 100% on the Boltons side this season. I think the Umbers are sincerely offering up Rickon, Osha, and killed Shaggy. To be fair, Small John was belligerent, but that's understandable when dealing with Ramsay. This is an alliance formed from convenience, not respect or loyalty, and that says a lot about the state of the North right now. But within the context of the past few seasons, it makes sense. There is absolutely no sense of security or loyalty in the North from what we've seen.
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Post by Deleted on May 12, 2016 12:00:20 GMT
Are people seriously believing that the Umbers will turn on the Boltons on the show? " Put this little album together to prove this exact point. There is no way that was a direwolf head as it is too small and even and Umber would need 2 hands likely to carry it." People are just so hopeful and delusional. The Umbers are 100% on the Boltons side this season. There's a good post a few pages back someone cross posted from reddit that explains in great detail how the Umbers can't be doing some sort of setup conspiracy. I'd go back and look for it but I haven't had my first cup of coffee yet so I am not fully functional for that sort of thing. The post's strongest argument against it would be why would the umbers risk Rickon's life like that if they believe he's the last living male heir to Winterfell? If they're right, and overthrow Bolton, Jon and Sansa are still going to hate them for putting Rickon there like that - and if they're wrong then they're definitely wrong and Rickon is dead and so are they because they will have lost the battle. It's far too big of a gamble with negative results either way for the Umbers to make a fake out like that. It's legit and the sooner fans face that fact the better. It's not going to end well for them.
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Post by Deleted on May 12, 2016 12:02:09 GMT
The faith want a good ruler so I doubt Gendry is someone they would be backing. I don't see how that is possible or a path the show would go down. Oops I did it again @hippocras Man phone sucks
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Post by Deleted on May 12, 2016 12:07:49 GMT
The faith want a good ruler so I doubt Gendry is someone they would be backing. I don't see how that is possible or a path the show would go down. Oops I did it again @hippocras Man phone sucks I would say what the Faith wants is a King who is nice and maleable, and firmly under the thumb of the Faith. For now they are content with Tommen because he can fit those criteria well. But if his parentage becomes a bigger issue, or if he dies, they will need someone else who they can control. Gendry is not exactly tame or stupid or easily manipulated, but by this point he may well be genuinely converted to the Faith, and he knows what he does not know, which makes him a good candidate for them.
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Post by boojam on May 12, 2016 12:13:35 GMT
I only give a shit about Gendry in relation to Arya. If those two don't meet up again than I don't see why he should return to the show. Unless he does something else useful but I doubt it. In the books he saved Brienne's life , which led to an interesting encounter. Could still happen on the show.
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Post by boojam on May 12, 2016 13:51:19 GMT
Alt Shift X makes the best videos (this one mentions CLEGANEBOWL so it could be he's more on board with the idea than in his CLEGANEBOWL video) Finally got time tonight to watch this one ... a longer one because 6x03 was so crammed full of new 'set up' scenes it took him a long while to wade through them all. I thought it was interesting how he noticed the parallel between Melisandre asking where Jon went while he was dead and he says "Nothing, there's nothing there" and so did Beric when she questioned him. He seems to think Melisandre is having her own existential crisis because she hopes/wants for word from this "Lord of Light" but there doesn't seem to be anyone there. Both Thoros and Melisandre are Red priests so something they have in common works in those words they speak (supposedly the same Valyrian words) ... I don't know if this mystery will ever be unraveled but it seems to me it's not religion that's doing it but straight up magic. It really got away from me, I had not noticed that Meena Rayann who played Vala last year played Vala this season. Sometime they do stay consistent.
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