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Post by Deleted on Apr 24, 2016 22:52:19 GMT
To me there's only one scene that made me feel sick to the stomach and still does: Oberyn's death. That's the "worst" scene of the show for me (in terms of how gut-wrenching it was). The first time I watched it, I felt extremely bad for hours. I still can't watch it, without being completely devastated and disgusted. I have no idea why that scene has that kind of impact on me. It has something to do with the visuals, the sounds and how Ellaria screams in horror.... Shireen's death scene - as horrible as it was - didn't have that effect on me, because of how it is essentially another example of the "a father sacrifices his child for the greater good"-trope that has been prevalent in literature for ages. I kind of saw it coming and I did some research on that for uni, so I was more... emotionally distant? However, it did ruin Daznak's Pit for me too, because the placement of that scene was just wrong.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 24, 2016 22:53:57 GMT
The burning of Shireen is my least favourite scene in the show, not because it's badly acted or anything like that, technically it's flawless - I just hate that it happened. It's totally irrational and I can't really explain it, I just know that I've never hated anything the show has done that much. Even the Red Wedding, as horrible as it was, had a strange beauty to it, the burning of Shireen was just disgusting. It made me sick. I almost felt like I was watching a documentary about the holocaust or something, I've ever had such a visceral reaction to a TV show and I'll never watch that scene again. Sadly, it also kind of ruined Daznak's Pit for me. I know Game of Thrones is a show were horrible things happen all the time, but for me, this was simply too much. It's funny because all the reasons you've mentioned are why I found it the most evocative, powerful scene the show has ever done. I wouldn't say I loved it, for obvious reasons, but I think other than Hardhome it might be the most effective sequence. I can totally understand why someone would have the reaction you've had, because it was utterly devastating. It hit me harder than 10 Red Weddings. Well said better than I could and sums up my emotions. It's very moving and the way they chose to do it was profound. It was still an awful thing to witness but they created it in a way that made it amazingly well done at the same time. The fact so many were that moved and upset by it is a testament to the ability to create realistic emotion.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 24, 2016 23:01:09 GMT
I've been wanting to see Daznak's pit FOREVER too. Even though I think of myself as a Stark fan first, Dany has all the big moments I've wanted to see rendered visually, with the exception of the Red Wedding. The dragons' birth, burning Fuckhead and taking the Unsullied, flying on Drogon, and some things that haven't happened yet but I expect: attacking Kings Landing with her dragons and seeing them attack White Walkers. The only things I'm more excited to see are the Wall coming down and some freaking Starks reuniting. And of course, Cleganebowl + Kings Landing burning + DO NOT TELL ME IF IT'S HAPPENING. But anyway, I guess because I was so excited for Dany's flight, I was disappointed by the scene too. It was partly because I was still emotionally reeling from Shireen's death, and it was partly because I thought the actual take off looked kinda cheesy. The flight was _okay_. I mean, it wasn't terrible, but it wasn't visually epic like Hardhome was epic. And that was kind of a letdown.
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Post by Basil on Apr 24, 2016 23:05:27 GMT
Sorry, I didn't mean to imply that I hate D&D for it, I don't, it's part of the story they're telling and I accept that. I'm sure it will happen in the books as well (though perhaps under different circumstances), and I know I will hate it. I'm just saying that that scene, more than anything, made me reevaluate my love for GoT and I began asking myself, why the fuck am I still watching this. Listening to Shireen's screams of agony for like one minute straight is the most harrowing experience I've had while watching a TV show. I really wish I could emotionally distance myself from the show, but I can't.
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Post by Basil on Apr 24, 2016 23:21:45 GMT
I've been wanting to see Daznak's pit FOREVER too. Even though I think of myself as a Stark fan first, Dany has all the big moments I've wanted to see rendered visually, with the exception of the Red Wedding. The dragons' birth, burning Fuckhead and taking the Unsullied, flying on Drogon, and some things that haven't happened yet but I expect: attacking Kings Landing with her dragons and seeing them attack White Walkers. The only things I'm more excited to see are the Wall coming down and some freaking Starks reuniting. And of course, Cleganebowl + Kings Landing burning + DO NOT TELL ME IF IT'S HAPPENING. But anyway, I guess because I was so excited for Dany's flight, I was disappointed by the scene too. It was partly because I was still emotionally reeling from Shireen's death, and it was partly because I thought the actual take off looked kinda cheesy. The flight was _okay_. I mean, it wasn't terrible, but it wasn't visually epic like Hardhome was epic. And that was kind of a letdown. I think that whole scene was really great, until the last minute or so. The flying was kind of lame, and I would have liked it more if Dany had shown some emotions while in the air, maybe not quite as orgasmic as in the books, but at least something (I don't blame Emilia though, I'm sure this was the direction she was given). The taming of Drogon would have been nice, too. And it was weird how she just took off and left her friends behind ... to die? The soundtrack was pretty great though. The two scenes I've wanted to see in the show ever since I read the books were the Red Wedding, I got that and it was perfect. The other one was the epilogue of ASoS.
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Post by mandzipop on Apr 24, 2016 23:22:52 GMT
Me too. Seasons 2 & 3 were heavy going at times and I initially got confused between characters. I was unsullied at the time and there were too many characters and it moved on too quickly.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 24, 2016 23:24:48 GMT
I've been wanting to see Daznak's pit FOREVER too. Even though I think of myself as a Stark fan first, Dany has all the big moments I've wanted to see rendered visually, with the exception of the Red Wedding. The dragons' birth, burning Fuckhead and taking the Unsullied, flying on Drogon, and some things that haven't happened yet but I expect: attacking Kings Landing with her dragons and seeing them attack White Walkers. The only things I'm more excited to see are the Wall coming down and some freaking Starks reuniting. And of course, Cleganebowl + Kings Landing burning + DO NOT TELL ME IF IT'S HAPPENING. But anyway, I guess because I was so excited for Dany's flight, I was disappointed by the scene too. It was partly because I was still emotionally reeling from Shireen's death, and it was partly because I thought the actual take off looked kinda cheesy. The flight was _okay_. I mean, it wasn't terrible, but it wasn't visually epic like Hardhome was epic. And that was kind of a letdown. I think we're all very serious fans and so we are highly critical of every scene's acting and special effects (which is OK!). I agree that the CGI effects for Dany actually taking off on Drogon weren't the best, but all the parts leading up to that - especially him flying over the crowd in a ball of flames and his epic landing on top of two harpies, plus ripping some apart and barbecuing others... those parts all made up for the less than perfect flight part. I was on such a high watching it (and the music in that scene slays me) I didn't even care if it wasn't quite perfect when she was flying. CGI with a live person on the back of a flying creature that doesn't exist has to be some of the most difficult work to do in that area of special effects so I forgive them and ultimately it's the emotions and story unfolding at that moment that mattered most to me. Sorry, I didn't mean to imply that I hate D&D for it, I don't, it's part of the story they're telling and I accept that. I'm sure it will happen in the books as well (though perhaps under different circumstances), and I know I will hate it. I'm just saying that that scene, more than anything, made me reevaluate my love for GoT and I began asking myself, why the fuck am I still watching this. Listening to Shireen's screams of agony for like one minute straight is the most harrowing experience I've had while watching a TV show. I really wish I could emotionally distance myself from the show, but I can't. You cannot because you are a beautiful person and this is a painful story to tell for many reasons. It's a testament to the show's creators that they are able to put us in that position of caring too much and to the author's magic.
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Post by Basil on Apr 24, 2016 23:42:20 GMT
That music, tho.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2016 11:14:59 GMT
Season 2 is easily the worst season of the show, IMO.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2016 11:18:45 GMT
Season 2 is easily the worst season of the show, IMO. And even it has What Is Dead May Never Die & Blackwater. So not a total loss.
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Post by mau on Apr 26, 2016 0:51:10 GMT
It is the worst, but I don't think it was bad. But nothing game-changing happened. Blackwater was great, but after that battle everything was the same.
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Post by MarcusAntonius on Apr 26, 2016 1:04:53 GMT
Nah for me 5 is easily worse than 2.
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Post by barristanwhitebeard on Apr 26, 2016 2:43:53 GMT
That music, tho. Why Ramin Djawadi has not yet won an Emmy, is completely beyond me. Such a fucking genius.
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Post by Nezzer on Apr 26, 2016 4:32:48 GMT
Nah for me 5 is easily worse than 2. I dislike season 2 more than 5 because Qarth was absolutely horrible and took up a lot more screen time than Dorne did in season 5. Pyat Pree, Xaro Ducksauce, whear urr muh dwaguns, Dany being at her worst with Emilia's worst acting of the whole show... A gigantic trainwreck. There's also Jon's journey in the North, which was also really underwhelming. Iceland was beautiful, but Qhorin Halfhand was a huge disappointment and Jon's arc as a whole was really boring. His scenes with Ygritte were the only decent parts, but Jon was still a fucking idiot. It was both Kit's and Emilia's worst season by far. The worst season for the characters that represent ice and fire.
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Post by barristanwhitebeard on Apr 26, 2016 4:40:28 GMT
Nah for me 5 is easily worse than 2. I dislike season 2 more than 5 because Qarth was absolutely horrible and took up a lot more screen time than Dorne did in season 5. Pyat Pree, Xaro Ducksauce, whear urr muh dwaguns, Dany being at her worst with Emilia's worst acting of the whole show... A gigantic trainwreck. There's also Jon's journey in the North, which was also really underwhelming. Iceland was beautiful, but Qhorin Halfhand was a huge disappointment and Jon's arc as a whole was really boring. His scenes with Ygritte were the only decent parts, but Jon was still a fucking idiot. It was both Kit's and Emilia's worst season by far. The worst season for the characters that represent ice and fire. I can forgive Qarth somehow. Sure, it was horrible, but it was pretty boring in the books (House of The Undying aside, pretty much nothing happens there). But I was REALLY disappointed with Jon's arc. His relationship with the Halfhand is absolutely crucial for his character development. The will to self-sacrifice, courage before the imminence of death, the deep sense of honor ... All of these are qualities that took root and deepened in Jon by his relationship with Qhorin in the book. The show missed all that and made the Halfhand a complete throwaway character.
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Post by 7timesdamnedshewolf on Apr 26, 2016 5:08:28 GMT
Season 2 is easily the worst season of the show, IMO. And even it has What Is Dead May Never Die & Blackwater. So not a total loss. And even the worst eps still have great scenes. 2.02, for example, which I think is regarded as the biggest stinker there in s2, had Tyrion's dinner with Janos Slynt and the early Arya/Gendry/Hot Pie cuteness. I don't really care to remember the rest of that ep, but it has that much for redeeming value. There's never an ep of this show that's 100% failure without some scenes worth re-watching, and that's why we all stick with it.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2016 5:10:40 GMT
And even it has What Is Dead May Never Die & Blackwater. So not a total loss. And even the worst eps still have great scenes. 2.02, for example, which I think is regarded as the biggest stinker there in s2, had Tyrion's dinner with Janos Slynt and the early Arya/Gendry/Hot Pie cuteness. I don't really care to remember the rest of that ep, but it has that much for redeeming value. There's never an ep of this show that's 100% failure without some scenes worth re-watching, and that's why we all stick with it. 202's my least favourite episode of the entire show and even still, you're right, there's a ton of good stuff to pick from it. My favourite moment is Balon saying, "And how do you feel about that?"
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Post by MarcusAntonius on Apr 26, 2016 9:23:13 GMT
Nah for me 5 is easily worse than 2. I dislike season 2 more than 5 because Qarth was absolutely horrible and took up a lot more screen time than Dorne did in season 5. Pyat Pree, Xaro Ducksauce, whear urr muh dwaguns, Dany being at her worst with Emilia's worst acting of the whole show... A gigantic trainwreck. There's also Jon's journey in the North, which was also really underwhelming. Iceland was beautiful, but Qhorin Halfhand was a huge disappointment and Jon's arc as a whole was really boring. His scenes with Ygritte were the only decent parts, but Jon was still a fucking idiot. It was both Kit's and Emilia's worst season by far. The worst season for the characters that represent ice and fire. I agree with this completely I just think the bad stuff in season five (Dorne, LF/Sansa, Rushed end for Stannis) is much worse.
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Post by Admin on Apr 26, 2016 10:58:42 GMT
I dislike season 2 more than 5 because Qarth was absolutely horrible and took up a lot more screen time than Dorne did in season 5. Pyat Pree, Xaro Ducksauce, whear urr muh dwaguns, Dany being at her worst with Emilia's worst acting of the whole show... A gigantic trainwreck. There's also Jon's journey in the North, which was also really underwhelming. Iceland was beautiful, but Qhorin Halfhand was a huge disappointment and Jon's arc as a whole was really boring. His scenes with Ygritte were the only decent parts, but Jon was still a fucking idiot. It was both Kit's and Emilia's worst season by far. The worst season for the characters that represent ice and fire. I agree with this completely I just think the bad stuff in season five (Dorne, LF/Sansa, Rushed end for Stannis) is much worse. I'd gladly watch entire season of Qarth over the atrocity that was Brienne, Jaime and Sansa arcs in s5. Not combined - they are awful each and every one of those
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Post by 7timesdamnedshewolf on Apr 27, 2016 5:12:41 GMT
I was gonna say what about Dorne? It took me a moment to remember that shit was Jaime's excuse for a sl.
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