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Post by Deleted on May 11, 2015 6:27:09 GMT
Konrad knows more about this than I do, but back in October, TristanSnow on westeros.org said that Lancel lets Littlefinger pass after a short conversation. It wouldn't be true Littlefinger style if he couldn't talk his way out of that one I guess. I'm still curious where he's trying to go that they are holding him back -- to see his pimp employee Olyvar in chains as well or at the brothel? There's a poster on AFOIAF, TristanSnow, who had scoops about the Dubrovnik shoot (he was either an extra or knew some people who were extras there, I lean towards thinking the latter because his info sounded very second-hand and sometimes jumbled) all of which have panned out so far. He described the Faith Militant montage in ep. 504 beat-for-beat for instance. And a ton of other KL outdoor sequences, including the WoS.
For LF in ep. 506, he said that he'd be walking down the street and would be surrounded by a group of Faith Militants led by Lancel, who LF would address as "Lancel Lannister". Lancel tells him "I'm brother Lancel now" and then speaks about his true family being the Seven and how his "Mother" is "merciful" but his "Father" judges the fates of all men. Then they let LF pass. I dunno if this is before or after he meets Olenna in his wrecked-up brothel but the point is, they don't arrest him.
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Post by Deleted on May 11, 2015 6:41:21 GMT
So he's confirmed that Littlefinger isn't arrested - good! I was starting to worry they'd go for him as a way to incriminate Loras - who I'm pretty sure he'd throw under the bus if he could anyways. I'm thinking they'll torture Olyvar into testifying.
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Post by Nezzer on May 11, 2015 7:11:29 GMT
No Jon, no Stannis and no Dany apparently. All in all it looks like a great episode. Westeros.org is going to explode!
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Post by Deleted on May 11, 2015 7:12:31 GMT
No Jon, no Stannis and no Dany apparently. All in all it looks like a great episode. Westeros.org is going to explode! Well to be fair, all three have gotten a lot of screen time the last two episodes so they do need to focus on the other story lines. They're all getting so deep now it's hard to devote enough to all!
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Post by 7timesdamnedshewolf on May 11, 2015 9:06:31 GMT
So what do we think is gonna go down with Olenna and her grandkids? Loras should be entitled to trial by combat.
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Post by Father of Dragons on May 11, 2015 10:51:34 GMT
No Stannis this week? To be fair, he has been in every episode so far this season, which is more than what they gave him last year
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Post by naseridrl on May 11, 2015 11:06:49 GMT
I'm so weirdly interested in Trystane/Myrcella. I was so annoyed about no Arianne, and in her place was an aged up Trystane and his romance with Myrcella But now after the ridiculousness that was Ellaria and the Sand snakes Dorne can't get much worse so I'm actually quite interested in how he'll be.
Will it be real love for them? Is she using him? Is he using her? Do they have plans together to be Queen and Prince Consort, do they then intend to legitimize a SS to be Princess of Dorne? Will it just be innocent teenage and he'll drop her once someone with a better claim comes along? Or do the just want a quiet life as Prince of Dorne and Consort?
I'm actually hoping most of this is about Myrcella and her story and he's an add on to her but I'm not sure how likely that is, but I would like it if she's more than a pawn or tool and an equal partner and has her own hopes for the future. Especially as she seems t have embraced Dorne, maybe she does think she has the right to be queen? Or maybe she has the sense to know its a poison chalice and Dorne wouldn't be the worst place to spend her life.
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Post by Admin on May 11, 2015 11:18:39 GMT
No Stannis this week? To be fair, he has been in every episode so far this season, which is more than what they gave him last year He should be in every episode from now on to make up for the screen time in season 3 and 4
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Post by Father of Dragons on May 11, 2015 11:26:09 GMT
I'm so weirdly interested in Trystane/Myrcella. I was so annoyed about no Arianne, and in her place was an aged up Trystane and his romance with Myrcella But now after the ridiculousness that was Ellaria and the Sand snakes Dorne can't get much worse so I'm actually quite interested in how he'll be.
Will it be real love for them? Is she using him? Is he using her? Do they have plans together to be Queen and Prince Consort, do they then intend to legitimize a SS to be Princess of Dorne? Will it just be innocent teenage and he'll drop her once someone with a better claim comes along? Or do the just want a quiet life as Prince of Dorne and Consort?
I'm actually hoping most of this is about Myrcella and her story and he's an add on to her but I'm not sure how likely that is, but I would like it if she's more than a pawn or tool and an equal partner and has her own hopes for the future. Especially as she seems t have embraced Dorne, maybe she does think she has the right to be queen? Or maybe she has the sense to know its a poison chalice and Dorne wouldn't be the worst place to spend her life. Only one this is certain: his attempt at mimicking Pedro Pascal's accent will be ridiculous.
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Post by naseridrl on May 11, 2015 11:30:07 GMT
I'm so weirdly interested in Trystane/Myrcella. I was so annoyed about no Arianne, and in her place was an aged up Trystane and his romance with Myrcella But now after the ridiculousness that was Ellaria and the Sand snakes Dorne can't get much worse so I'm actually quite interested in how he'll be.
Will it be real love for them? Is she using him? Is he using her? Do they have plans together to be Queen and Prince Consort, do they then intend to legitimize a SS to be Princess of Dorne? Will it just be innocent teenage and he'll drop her once someone with a better claim comes along? Or do the just want a quiet life as Prince of Dorne and Consort?
I'm actually hoping most of this is about Myrcella and her story and he's an add on to her but I'm not sure how likely that is, but I would like it if she's more than a pawn or tool and an equal partner and has her own hopes for the future. Especially as she seems t have embraced Dorne, maybe she does think she has the right to be queen? Or maybe she has the sense to know its a poison chalice and Dorne wouldn't be the worst place to spend her life. Only one this is certain: his attempt at mimicking Pedro Pascal's accent will be ridiculous. Every Dornish accent has been ridiculous, so he's just going to be carrying on that proud tradition.
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Post by Enid on May 11, 2015 12:53:09 GMT
Poor Dornish actors, they try too hard with the accent, that's the problem.
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Post by Deleted on May 11, 2015 16:08:35 GMT
The promo kind of makes a point of showing everyone except Sansa at the wedding. Is that because Myranda mangles her face or because she's washed out the dye and they just don't want to spoil it?
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Post by Deleted on May 11, 2015 16:38:34 GMT
What does Cersei offer LF? Her body? So will this Malko appear on this episode and capture Tyrion and Jorah? Also Ramsay and Sansa will consummate. Will Sansa appear naked on this one or is the rumour from that pervy site just a rumour?
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Post by Deleted on May 11, 2015 16:40:28 GMT
What does Cersei offer LF? Her body? So will this Malko appear on this episode and capture Tyrion and Jorah? Also Ramsay and Sansa will consummate. Will Sansa appear naked on this one or is the rumour from that pervy site just a rumour? I don't think she'll be naked.
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Post by King Tommen on May 11, 2015 16:43:25 GMT
The pervy site says that Sansa will consummate the marriage but she won't appear naked (which would've shocked the hell out of me if they did it just knowing what we do about Sophie and how D&D feel about her). I think you'll probably get a pretty close approximation of her doing what she does in the bedroom scene with Tyrion after their wedding and then the rest of the scene as a closeup on Theon's reaction as he's forced to watch. I don't think they'll make the scene very long at all, just enough so the audience gets that there's some sex about to happen.
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Post by Deleted on May 11, 2015 17:00:30 GMT
Damn it. How does this pervy site even know these things? I recall they knew that Melisandre would be naked in 4x07.
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Post by King Tommen on May 11, 2015 17:06:32 GMT
The site seems to legitimately have access to the scripts somehow (through an insider at HBO presumably) but the only thing they're interested in reporting on is whether actresses get naked or not so that's all they pass along.
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Post by Deleted on May 11, 2015 17:23:09 GMT
The site seems to legitimately have access to the scripts somehow (through an insider at HBO presumably) but the only thing they're interested in reporting on is whether actresses get naked or not so that's all they pass along. Thanks.
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Post by Deleted on May 11, 2015 19:58:59 GMT
BTW, to the people here who know more about hair-dye and wigs etc. than me, in this shot from the promo does Sansa's hair look like it's Sophie's real hair and just wet or like it's her dark wig? I can't tell because I don't know much about this sortof thing...but mayhaps someone with more expertise and a better eye could figure it out?
I'm pretty sure the point of her pre-wedding bath is to return to her red hair and this could prove that if someone can work it out...
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Post by Deleted on May 11, 2015 20:17:50 GMT
BTW, to the people here who know more about hair-dye and wigs etc. than me, in this shot from the promo does Sansa's hair look like it's Sophie's real hair and just wet or like it's her dark wig? I can't tell because I don't know much about this sortof thing...but mayhaps someone with more expertise and a better eye could figure it out?
I'm pretty sure the point of her pre-wedding bath is to return to her red hair and this could prove that if someone can work it out... Lighting's bad in that since it's just flame light from the fireplace I think. But what I can see of her hairline at forehead it looks red. The rest is wet / dark so it's hard to tell. I would very much like to see Sansa arrive at her wedding with her red hair as a way for the viewers to understand she's going back to her true self, but then again red-haired Sansa was the one who was a victim and supposedly black haired Sansa was the disguised 'player' so it doesn't really symbolize anything that way. Maybe it's just her 'washing away' her past and accepting a new direction. Bathing is symbolic of cleansing more than the body. Oh and as for the actual dye - likely she just had some sort of washable stuff in for filming or they dyed it back to match her natural color. Dying one's hair is very quick and easy these days and I'm sure she's got a good hair-dresser so it's not getting damaged because it looks pretty natural in all the pics I've seen of her off screen.
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