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Post by Deleted on Apr 27, 2015 16:10:00 GMT
Part of the reason I'm a little weary of westeros.org forums is because the nitpicking has now sunk to the level of really petty jabs even at the actors for lack of better 'reasons' to hate things about the show - yet for show haters, they sure keep coming back every week for another round! I mean really, if you dislike the show that much (and that's ok, I don't judge you for it) why would you continue to watch and participate on the forum that much... thousands of post counts just to argue about some wording changes? sheez. The thread about Ellaria's personality disorder went on for 25+ pages because people were so pissed they made her vengeful instead of sweet and peaceful. Ok I get it but it's a minor character and the real angst is because they cut Arianne and everyone's flipping out about every detail now as paybacks.
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Y'all are great and reasonable however. Thank you so much for inviting me to discuss and I like all the points made here even if you didn't care for the episode. Every episode to me has great bits and not so great bits and I enjoy it anyways even if not following the book. I just adore the beautiful scenery, costumes and actors!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 27, 2015 16:19:09 GMT
Part of the reason I'm a little weary of westeros.org forums is because the nitpicking has now sunk to the level of really petty jabs even at the actors for lack of better 'reasons' to hate things about the show - yet for show haters, they sure keep coming back every week for another round! I mean really, if you dislike the show that much (and that's ok, I don't judge you for it) why would you continue to watch and participate on the forum that much... thousands of post counts just to argue about some wording changes? sheez. The thread about Ellaria's personality disorder went on for 25+ pages because people were so pissed they made her vengeful instead of sweet and peaceful. Ok I get it but it's a minor character and the real angst is because they cut Arianne and everyone's flipping out about every detail now as paybacks. /rant off Y'all are great and reasonable however. Thank you so much for inviting me to discuss and I like all the points made here even if you didn't care for the episode. Every episode to me has great bits and not so great bits and I enjoy it anyways even if not following the book. I just adore the beautiful scenery, costumes and actors! I completely agree with this. I'm the type of person that when I stop liking a show I simply stop watching it. I've left shows halfway through a season because they bored me or annoyed me or whatever. I certainly don't have the kind of time to waste on something I really don't like, especially if my dislike is so intense that I have to rant about it, all the time. It's fine if you don't like the show, I know people who I would never recommend the show to because I know it's not the kind of show they'd like, it's not for everyone. I don't really care about the ranting and raving, I don't participate int he thread but I'd wish they would be fair in recognizing the good parts of the show instead of dismissing everything. It just looks petty, I think. Anyhow, to each their own. If that makes them feel better so be it, it's their life and their time. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 27, 2015 16:21:37 GMT
Part of the reason I'm a little weary of westeros.org forums is because the nitpicking has now sunk to the level of really petty jabs even at the actors for lack of better 'reasons' to hate things about the show - yet for show haters, they sure keep coming back every week for another round! I mean really, if you dislike the show that much (and that's ok, I don't judge you for it) why would you continue to watch and participate on the forum that much... thousands of post counts just to argue about some wording changes? sheez. The thread about Ellaria's personality disorder went on for 25+ pages because people were so pissed they made her vengeful instead of sweet and peaceful. Ok I get it but it's a minor character and the real angst is because they cut Arianne and everyone's flipping out about every detail now as paybacks. /rant off Y'all are great and reasonable however. Thank you so much for inviting me to discuss and I like all the points made here even if you didn't care for the episode. Every episode to me has great bits and not so great bits and I enjoy it anyways even if not following the book. I just adore the beautiful scenery, costumes and actors! Re your first paragraph, I thought it was best described by our own konradsmith. In his immortal words, what's going over there is a...
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Post by Deleted on Apr 27, 2015 16:26:19 GMT
envie and moiaf I completely agree with you. I've also quit many shows halfway through them, simply because they bored me. The idea that you can give episode this good a 3 just because you didn't like Sansa's storyline changes is stupid.
Also, how can there be this many people who are now bummed about Sansa in Winterfell? Seriously,the trailers gave it away and all the previews. We have known this since March. I know it can be surprise that Sansa is marrying Ramsay, but that she is in Winterfell, not so much.
BTW, I was one of those who called the idea that Sansa would go to Winterfell absurd and stupid. After it turned out to be true, I called the idea that Sansa would marry Ramsay absurd and stupid. Now that it has turned out to be true, I am calling the idea that Ramsay won't rape/abuse Sansa absurd.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 27, 2015 16:27:40 GMT
Easily the best episode of the three I've seen. The folks at Westeros are rating this episode 3 just because no "Edd fetch me a block", Sansa in Winterfell etc. By changing the storylines from the books the Children is easily the worst episode, but I gave it a 10. I don't rate episodes judging by how they deviate from the books. I rate them judging by how good they are. And that's it. Loved every minute of Roose, him snarking at Ramsay and Littlefinger was pure gold. I also enjoyed Lancel's performance when they captured the Tyrion's High Septon. Then there was the Nod, Edd, fetch me a block Olly, bring my sword, Reek, Arya's Needle scene and the list goes one. And also the whore dressed as Daenerys. Seems like Tyrion hasn't heard about Mel.Said King's Landing tbf. Ah well. |
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Post by freypies on Apr 27, 2015 16:30:09 GMT
Part of the reason I'm a little weary of westeros.org forums is because the nitpicking has now sunk to the level of really petty jabs even at the actors for lack of better 'reasons' to hate things about the show - yet for show haters, they sure keep coming back every week for another round! I mean really, if you dislike the show that much (and that's ok, I don't judge you for it) why would you continue to watch and participate on the forum that much... thousands of post counts just to argue about some wording changes? sheez. The thread about Ellaria's personality disorder went on for 25+ pages because people were so pissed they made her vengeful instead of sweet and peaceful. Ok I get it but it's a minor character and the real angst is because they cut Arianne and everyone's flipping out about every detail now as paybacks. /rant off Y'all are great and reasonable however. Thank you so much for inviting me to discuss and I like all the points made here even if you didn't care for the episode. Every episode to me has great bits and not so great bits and I enjoy it anyways even if not following the book. I just adore the beautiful scenery, costumes and actors! Yeah, it's the same reason I don't go on that forum now too. After lurking there for 4 years, the constant criticism has made the forum very tedious for me, and I am really happy that this one was opened! Everyone who used to post interesting content is here anyway, so I don't really miss it at all. And I completely agree with you on the flaws thing - no episode is perfect, but at the same time, it is pointless to criticise every single, even minute, flaw excessively. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 27, 2015 16:30:14 GMT
Haha well put and I thank you both for agreeing. I don't want to make a divisive line about that forum because I've been over there for years (even though I only participate sporadically) and overall I love the site and the really deep discussions that happen - mostly in the book sections. Maybe my problem is that I'm not a book purist but I cross back and forth between book details and show details and get annoyed by those who refuse to be flexible about it. I dunno and it's not that important. It's nice to have a place to talk about the show without getting your head bit off or insulted for a change!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 27, 2015 16:36:19 GMT
Part of the reason I'm a little weary of westeros.org forums is because the nitpicking has now sunk to the level of really petty jabs even at the actors for lack of better 'reasons' to hate things about the show - yet for show haters, they sure keep coming back every week for another round! I mean really, if you dislike the show that much (and that's ok, I don't judge you for it) why would you continue to watch and participate on the forum that much... thousands of post counts just to argue about some wording changes? sheez. The thread about Ellaria's personality disorder went on for 25+ pages because people were so pissed they made her vengeful instead of sweet and peaceful. Ok I get it but it's a minor character and the real angst is because they cut Arianne and everyone's flipping out about every detail now as paybacks. /rant off Y'all are great and reasonable however. Thank you so much for inviting me to discuss and I like all the points made here even if you didn't care for the episode. Every episode to me has great bits and not so great bits and I enjoy it anyways even if not following the book. I just adore the beautiful scenery, costumes and actors! Yeah, it's the same reason I don't go on that forum now too. After lurking there for 4 years, the constant criticism has made the forum very tedious for me, and I am really happy that this one was opened! Everyone who used to post interesting content is here anyway, so I don't really miss it at all. And I completely agree with you on the flaws thing - no episode is perfect, but at the same time, it is pointless to criticise every single, even minute, flaw excessively. We totally stole y'all. You're ours now and we ain't givin' you back. :batman: |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 27, 2015 17:06:16 GMT
Haha fair enough - I'm a willing captive! :whip:
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Post by mattpeto on Apr 27, 2015 18:24:36 GMT
Part of the reason I'm a little weary of westeros.org forums is because the nitpicking has now sunk to the level of really petty jabs even at the actors for lack of better 'reasons' to hate things about the show - yet for show haters, they sure keep coming back every week for another round! I mean really, if you dislike the show that much (and that's ok, I don't judge you for it) why would you continue to watch and participate on the forum that much... thousands of post counts just to argue about some wording changes? sheez. The thread about Ellaria's personality disorder went on for 25+ pages because people were so pissed they made her vengeful instead of sweet and peaceful. Ok I get it but it's a minor character and the real angst is because they cut Arianne and everyone's flipping out about every detail now as paybacks. /rant off Y'all are great and reasonable however. Thank you so much for inviting me to discuss and I like all the points made here even if you didn't care for the episode. Every episode to me has great bits and not so great bits and I enjoy it anyways even if not following the book. I just adore the beautiful scenery, costumes and actors! That's such a dead place to me until next Sunday at 10 pm anyway. |
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Post by sj4iy on Apr 27, 2015 19:55:18 GMT
envie and moiaf I completely agree with you. I've also quit many shows halfway through them, simply because they bored me. The idea that you can give episode this good a 3 just because you didn't like Sansa's storyline changes is stupid. Also, how can there be this many people who are now bummed about Sansa in Winterfell? Seriously,the trailers gave it away and all the previews. We have known this since March. I know it can be surprise that Sansa is marrying Ramsay, but that she is in Winterfell, not so much. BTW, I was one of those who called the idea that Sansa would go to Winterfell absurd and stupid. After it turned out to be true, I called the idea that Sansa would marry Ramsay absurd and stupid. Now that it has turned out to be true, I am calling the idea that Ramsay won't rape/abuse Sansa absurd. I was also one who didn't quite think that Sansa would be going to Winterfell...now that it's happening, I find the set-up fascinating. There's so much more to it than there was when it was fArya, in my opinion. Now, of course, the whole thing could just crash and burn...but that's to be seen. Right now, it's very interesting and heartwrenching to watch. I also refuse to waste my time on something I don't enjoy. I didn't watch the third Hobbit movie after the second one sucked too bad for me to care anymore. I don't get why some people continue to watch something that doesn't entertain them, but whatever- HBO is laughing all the way to the bank. |
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Post by sj4iy on Apr 27, 2015 19:59:31 GMT
I loved how Jon didn't leave the mess hall until he finished his drink  That was badass  Absolutely agree XD Just the expressions on Kit's face through that entire scene were so incredibly well done...you could see all of the conflicting emotions inside without him ever saying a word. Easily one of my favorite scenes up to now. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 27, 2015 20:30:38 GMT
How did the letter get to LF in WF?
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Post by morgantayler on Apr 27, 2015 20:38:52 GMT
How did the letter get to LF in WF? Roose said a rider from the Eyrie brought it to him. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 27, 2015 20:50:40 GMT
Love Roose absolutely bossing LF. The episode was great, but my inner book purist was enraged by a couple of things. Those do not need to be addressed again.
Margaery & Tommen consummating is an interesting change. It will totally change the dynamic of Cersei's plots. High Sparrow was well introduced. I think that there was too much Arya though, some of them were really boring and took too long. Jon executing Slynt was a fantastic scene (great soundtrack), felt terribly sorry for Slynt when he broke in tears,though he had it coming.
I'm slowly but surely beginning to accept the marriage pact between Sansa and Ramsay. It doesn't make that much sense, but fine, just go with it. The lack of Northern lords irritates me, I really really really hope that someone appears to the wedding. ANYONE.
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Post by boojam on Apr 27, 2015 21:00:10 GMT
"........Volantian prostitute cosplay"
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Post by breakfest on Apr 27, 2015 21:07:20 GMT
I thought Stannis' reply to Jon about keeping enemies close may be foreshadowing Sansa's Winterfell sitch as well as Jon's own.
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Post by stoneheartsrevenge on Apr 27, 2015 21:13:34 GMT
Oh joy, celibate St. Tyrion of the West. I'd love to say that surprised me...
Anyway, mostly thought the episode was alright. Aiden Gillen is still terrible (nothing to do with his story or anything, he's just really bad). Still not liking Brienne and Pod at all, but at least Gwen is killing the performance side of things. Loved the HoBaW music at the beginning. I'm still finding Kings Landing a bit flat. Wall was once again a highlight, especially Stephen. Great acting from Roose, great to see him our LF in his place. Ah....anything else...
edit: also, I've thought for a while now that the Pink Letter would be cut entirely - I.e. No involvement between Jon and the Boltons at all. I'm now thinking that is not the case after his talk with Stannis, and that come the end, involvement with the Boltons will be the catalyst for the Ides. But, we shall see
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Post by Deleted on Apr 27, 2015 21:23:47 GMT
The first episode without Dany is the best episode of the season.  The whitewashing of Tyrion is getting embarrassing. He RAPED a bed slave in the books, for heaven's sake. Now he just can't do it, because he's a super awesome guy? Hopefully Brienne's talk about avenging Renly isn't foreshadowing. |
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Post by breakfest on Apr 27, 2015 21:27:30 GMT
Erm well I for one am very glad that a character I like and relate to a hell of a lot didn't rape someone, but then that's just me. You didn't hear many Jaime fans telling D&D how great a job they did of adding immense depth of character after he raped Cersei. And he's a much much more conflicting character.
Anyhow another thing I liked: how sweet memories of Arya's time with the Hound could be so finely summarised in one word.
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The whitewashing of Tyrion is getting embarrassing. He RAPED a bed slave in the books, for heaven's sake. Now he just can't do it, because he's a super awesome guy?