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Post by lordcarson on Feb 28, 2017 15:00:05 GMT
It sucks that even in a year without three major shows at the Emmys, Luke Arnold, Toby Stephens, and Toby Schmitz all still won't be nominated.
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Post by stoneheartsrevenge on Feb 28, 2017 23:05:03 GMT
The director probably had no idea there was something wrong until the La La Land producer said Moonlight won. Remember that the directors and producers of the show work for ABC, not the Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences, so there's no way they knew who the winner was supposed to be. Bringing mics down would just make the production team look incompetent, and people would be talking about technical errors with microphones this morning. As far as anybody in the control room knows, La La Land is the winner, the band is playing their music, people are giving speeches. That's the downside of so much secrecy and mystery surrounding the winners. This mistake reflects more poorly on the Academy and PricewaterhouseCoopers than ABC or their production team. The latter really only cares about ratings, and a big event like this could actually help generate interest. Anyway, at least we'll get some awesome memes out of this.  Supposedly there are two people from Price Waterhouse Cooper that know who the winners were beforehand. They come to the oscars with the envelopes locked in a bag and they also are supposed to have the winners memorized in case of a mix up as well. Beatty said he saw the card read Emma Stone La La Land and didn't know what to do and Dunaway thought he was ad libbing, looked at the card and saw La La Land and assumed it won...whoever stuffed the envelopes messed up. Price Waterhouse apologized to all parties involved. Nice quote by Mahershala Ali on the mix-up and win: link He is a total class act. Why did I say June for Thrones? I knew there was no confirmed date yet. I blame Warren Beatty. Anyway, thinking on, that removes Maslany from lead actress (I know she wasn't guaranteed a spot but...c'mon, the woman's insanely talented) and at least one spot in supporting actor/actress, as well as guest from Thrones. Will be curious to see what takes their places. Hopefully Thandie Newton and/or Evan Rachel-Wood will be up (will be interested to see which category they are shoved into - the other awards didn't seem too certain who was lead or supporting). Eva Green for Penny Dreadful yes sir please sir make it happen sir. Is Outlander Season 2 eligible? Or was that eligible in the 2016 Emmys? Keri Russel will no doubt be up again in lead. Most likely Viola Davis too. I can think of a few award worthy performances. But I'm not sure realistically what their chances of an Emmy nomination are (for various reasons - aired in June last year, so are mostly forgotten, aired on networks that aren't the usual nominees). Usually the Emmy deadline is May 30th. Thrones, Orphan Black and Outlander will not be eligible this year. Some things that I ponder now that those shows are not in the running. Considering that Maslany, who won last year, would probably be a strong contender for a nod this year (no one does what she does on TV to be honest), won't be eligible. Caitronia Balfe who is always in the mix for a nod but has never been nominated yet is not eligible, I think leaves the best actress race wide open. Outlander season 2 was eligible for 2016 Emmys, I believe. Assuming the Big Little Lies is going under miniseries, so omitting those ladies...I see definite nominee Claire Foy for The Crown, Viola Davis for How to Get Away with Murder. Potential nominees: Kerry Washington for Scandal, Evan Rachel Wood for Westworld, Thandie Newton (who also might go in supporting for WW), Christine Baranski for The Good Fight and Keri Russell for the Americans. If the Handmaiden's Tale debuts on Hulu before May 30, expect Elisabeth Moss to be here too. Supporting actress: Thrones not being eligible leaves this one wide open-Lena Headley and Emilia Clarke are not eligible. Expect to see Mandy Moore and Chrissy Metz from This Is Us, possibly Samira Wiley from The Handmaiden's Tale (and maybe OITNB if it's up in drama again), Viola Davis could score a nod for Luke Cage, I can't think of the actresses name right now, possibly the actress who played Princess Margaret in The Crown, if Thandie is not put up in lead, she'll be here. Best Actor-this one is really tricky because both WW and This Is Us have a problem--they either submit all their male leads as supporting and run the risk of them cancelling each other out and I would say John Lithgow is going to win for The Crown any way...or be smart and split them up to give some a better shot at winning Best Actor.. My list: Sterling K Brown for This Is Us (he has enough screen time to qualify and he's excellent, could really win this one as opposed to going under supporting and losing to Lithgow), Anthony Hopkins for WW, Bob Odenkirk most likely, Matthew Rhys for the Americans, if House of Cards debuts in time Kevin Spacey. Longshot for a nomination: Mike Colter, Luke Cage Supporting Actor: John Lithgow (who will win) for the Crown, Ron Cephas Jones for This Is Us, Milo Ventrimigilia for This Is Us, Jonathan Banks (Better Call Saul), Mahershala Ali for Luke Cage (it's possible they might submit him for guest given he's in half the season), Jeffrey Wright for WW, Ed Harris WW Longshot for nod: Justin Hartley, This Is Us (only because the plots for his character are pretty rushed) Best Drama: The Crown, Westworld, This Is Us, The Americans That's my drama selections so far...I am sure I am forgetting a crap ton of shows that probably are debuting within the next couple of months. Very good breakdown, thanks! Indont think you mean Viola Davis for Luke Cage though...Alfre Woodard perhaps? (Mariah) [Holy mother...she is in her 60's? What the hell?!] A few more considerations to throw into the mix; Tom Hardy as Lead Actor in Taboo (the show itself was a bit of a flop but he was awesome) Winona Ryder for Stranger Things (I forgot it would be eligible - again, June suck as a release date as far as the Emmys are concerned). American Gods is also starting the end of April. I wonder if anyone there will be nominated. Ian McShane always puts in a solid performance, |
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Post by kingeomer on Mar 1, 2017 13:32:39 GMT
stoneheartsrevenge ...oh my God total brain fart...I meant Alfre Woodard!!!  <---- at me Totally forgot about Stranger Things! Winona could be up for Best Actress and Millie Bobby Brown for supporting. I forgot they were not eligible last year. Do you think Taboo goes under Best Series or Miniseries? I have not seen it yet but yes, don't count Hardy out. I don't watch too much comedy shows to say much about them but I'll hope for nods for Ellie Kempler & Tituss Burgess for Unbreakable Kimmy Schmidt, possibly Donald Glover for Atlanta. Kate Mc Kinnon will repeat for a comedy nod for playing Hillary and Kellyanne Conway. I could see Alec Baldwin and Melissa Mc Carthy get guest actor in a comedy nods for their turns as Trump and Sean Spicer. I suspect Ryan Murphy's Feud will garner nods for Susan Sarandon and Jessica Lange in actress for a miniseries, Big Little Lies (I assume the show will be here unless they pull a True Detective) will probably get nods for Reese Witherspoon, Nicole Kidman in actress for a miniseries, Shailaine Woodley probably for supporting and maybe Alex Skarsgard for supporting actor in miniseries. I'd like to see some love for Medici Masters of Florence in this category, I thought Richard Madden (personal fangirl feelings about the guy aside) and Annabel Schloey turned in some really good performances in that...but that's an outside shot at best. ETA: If American Gods is a good as I hope it to be, perhaps both Ricky Whittle and Ian Mc Shane will be lucky enough to get nods. Starz has had a hard time breaking through with nods...but maybe this show will do it for them.
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Post by stoneheartsrevenge on Mar 1, 2017 14:04:56 GMT
stoneheartsrevenge ...oh my God total brain fart...I meant Alfre Woodard!!! <---- at me Totally forgot about Stranger Things! Winona could be up for Best Actress and Millie Bobby Brown for supporting. I forgot they were not eligible last year. Do you think Taboo goes under Best Series or Miniseries? I have not seen it yet but yes, don't count Hardy out. I don't watch too much comedy shows to say much about them but I'll hope for nods for Ellie Kempler & Tituss Burgess for Unbreakable Kimmy Schmidt, possibly Donald Glover for Atlanta. Kate Mc Kinnon will repeat for a comedy nod for playing Hillary and Kellyanne Conway. I could see Alec Baldwin and Melissa Mc Carthy get guest actor in a comedy nods for their turns as Trump and Sean Spicer. I suspect Ryan Murphy's Feud will garner nods for Susan Sarandon and Jessica Lange in actress for a miniseries, Big Little Lies (I assume the show will be here unless they pull a True Detective) will probably get nods for Reese Witherspoon, Nicole Kidman in actress for a miniseries, Shailaine Woodley probably for supporting and maybe Alex Skarsgard for supporting actor in miniseries. I'd like to see some love for Medici Masters of Florence in this category, I thought Richard Madden (personal fangirl feelings about the guy aside) and Annabel Schloey turned in some really good performances in that...but that's an outside shot at best. ETA: If American Gods is a good as I hope it to be, perhaps both Ricky Whittle and Ian Mc Shane will be lucky enough to get nods. Starz has had a hard time breaking through with nods...but maybe this show will do it for them. Not sure what distinguishes drama and miniseries, so I don't know where Taboo would fall. I know there are hopes for another couple of season but as of yet nothing confirmed. It's only 8 episodes. I still don't know where OitNB falls. I don't think it got any nominations for actresses in season 3 so I don't know if it's drama or comedy. I believe it belongs more firmly in drama personally. Not sure who I would hope gets a nomination, I had hoped the actress who plays Tucky would get a nomination for Season 3 but sadly no. I only remembered Stranger Things by looking through the Globes results. But again, I think the June air date will be a real hurdle here. I will stubbornly maintain till my dying breath that this is why Eva Green didn't get a nomination for Penny Dreadful S1 and S2 and probably won't get one for Season 3. And actually when you look at it, the two are comparable - Penny Dreadful got nominations in the January awards sweep (Eva Green, Patti LuPone and Helen McCrory) but come the Emmys got nothing. Comedy is interesting. Kimmy Schmidt is a good call, and Kate McKinnon, Baldwin and McCarthy too (the amount of times Baldwin has been on the show this season though...it will be absurd if he gets put into the Guest category, he's a more regular than half the cast at this point). Crazy Ex-Girlfriend would also be nice to see a nod to. I will be disappointed if Santa Clarita Diet gets any nominations. The acting was horrible. I think Outlander is on Starz in the U.S. Isn't it? It's Amazon Prime here, which also seems to be where we will get American Gods based on the latest trailer. Anyway, seems like Stars has already made inroads so I wouldn't discount American Gods at all. |
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Post by kingeomer on Mar 2, 2017 11:54:19 GMT
Outlander is Starz in the US. The actors have not been fortunate enough to break through with Emmy nods, nor the show for best drama...they have gotten nods in other categories.
I was curious about OITNB myself. The first year, they submitted as a drama, the second year a comedy and this year I have no idea what. I agree that I don't think they get any nods even though this season was better then the 2nd season. It'd be nice to see Danielle Brooks get a nod, but that's a long shot.
The accountants at the Oscars were fired from the Oscars. The male accountant was snagged tweeting Emma Stone's win with a photo of her right as she won.
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Post by stoneheartsrevenge on Mar 18, 2017 22:58:34 GMT
Update for my Emmy considerations: Aubrey Plaza in Legion. She's brilliant, really steals every scene she is in, and it's such a complex role she is in too. Reading some interviews, she receives little direction, has a lot of freedom in how she chooses to play each scene, so I find her performance even more impressive because of that
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Post by stoneheartsrevenge on Mar 27, 2017 16:25:26 GMT
Rachel Bloom and Donna Lynne Champlin deserve awards for Season 2 of Crazy Ex-Girlfriend. As do the writers. The show went in such a good direction this season and the cast are brilliant. I love how it manages to be funny and OTT while also dealing with genuine and compelling relationships. The development of the characters has been great. I've watched seven episodes since Friday or something. It's also one of those few shows that genuinely makes me laugh out loud at it. "Angelique" was hilarious.
Took a look at Goldderby and the editors there seem to be basing their predictions on OitNB being a drama.
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Post by kingeomer on Mar 28, 2017 12:53:47 GMT
Rachel Bloom and Donna Lynne Champlin deserve awards for Season 2 of Crazy Ex-Girlfriend. As do the writers. The show went in such a good direction this season and the cast are brilliant. I love how it manages to be funny and OTT while also dealing with genuine and compelling relationships. The development of the characters has been great. I've watched seven episodes since Friday or something. It's also one of those few shows that genuinely makes me laugh out loud at it. "Angelique" was hilarious. Took a look at Goldderby and the editors there seem to be basing their predictions on OitNB being a drama. It looks like it, I just checked gold derby's predictions. We'll see how right they are. I completely forgot that The Night Of aired after Emmy eligibility last summer. |
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Post by stoneheartsrevenge on Mar 28, 2017 16:37:37 GMT
Rachel Bloom and Donna Lynne Champlin deserve awards for Season 2 of Crazy Ex-Girlfriend. As do the writers. The show went in such a good direction this season and the cast are brilliant. I love how it manages to be funny and OTT while also dealing with genuine and compelling relationships. The development of the characters has been great. I've watched seven episodes since Friday or something. It's also one of those few shows that genuinely makes me laugh out loud at it. "Angelique" was hilarious. Took a look at Goldderby and the editors there seem to be basing their predictions on OitNB being a drama. It looks like it, I just checked gold derby's predictions. We'll see how right they are. I completely forgot that The Night Of aired after Emmy eligibility last summer. The Crown seems to be a favourite on the Drama front. I certainly agree Lithgow deserves supporting actor but not so sure about Foy as actress or the series winning best drama. It was good, dont get me wrong, but i think there are more deserving contenders. Expensive costume drama revelling in a bygone age...i think its a strong contender. OitNB predictions focus again on Uzo. I love her and she pits in great performances but there are othrs in the cast equally deserving for their performances. Samira Wiley would be my pick this season. Also i'm just now , finding out what goes into an Emmy campaign, which i never realised before. Its interesting. |
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Post by kingeomer on Mar 29, 2017 12:50:49 GMT
It looks like it, I just checked gold derby's predictions. We'll see how right they are. I completely forgot that The Night Of aired after Emmy eligibility last summer. The Crown seems to be a favourite on the Drama front. I certainly agree Lithgow deserves supporting actor but not so sure about Foy as actress or the series winning best drama. It was good, dont get me wrong, but i think there are more deserving contenders. Expensive costume drama revelling in a bygone age...i think its a strong contender. OitNB predictions focus again on Uzo. I love her and she pits in great performances but there are othrs in the cast equally deserving for their performances. Samira Wiley would be my pick this season. Also i'm just now , finding out what goes into an Emmy campaign, which i never realised before. Its interesting. I am sure Netflix will do all they can to put The Crown out there since it cost them 100 million to make. John Lithgow is a definite winner. I do agree with you that I can see Foy and the show nominated but I am not as certain of a win for them in both categories. I also agree with you about OitNB. I really like Uzo, I think she plays Suzanne so well but I agree, Samira Wiley should be nominated over her, especially for her work in her character's last flashback episode. Emmy campaigns cost money and are a lot of strategy. I know HBO got a lot of flack for putting True Detective up for best drama when many thought it should be miniseries. I'm not sure if the rules changed to prevent that from happening again (Mc Conaughey won best actor in the Emmys but the show did not win Best Drama) but it makes me wonder about the best miniseries/movie category when you possibly have Witherspoon, Kidman, Sarandon, Lange and possibly Oprah Winfrey all up for best actress. Would Feud or Big Little Lies move up to Best Drama to increase their chances of a win? Another show I wonder about is This Is Us (not sure how many people on here watch it but it's probably the most buzzed about network TV show that's come around in a long time)... I think putting the male cast in supporting actor would be a dumb idea and it looks like Gold Derby is putting Sterling K Brown in best actor in drama, which I think is smart if that's what happens. No one is beating Lithgow and if NBC wants an Emmy for the show, their best chance is putting Sterling K Brown up for best actor. I'm not sure This Is Us wins best drama but I think it gets a nod. |
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Post by stoneheartsrevenge on Apr 18, 2017 0:24:30 GMT
FYC's have started (I only knew this because I stumbled on videos of the Crazy Ex-Girlfriend FYC for this year. Which, by the way, Donna Lynne for Supporting Comedy Actress please. She was awesome): www.emmys.com/events/fycLimited series could potentiall be a very competitive category this year. Feud, Big Little Lies, Guerilla, The Night Of, American Horror Story. All series that have a lot of buzz around them, and that's just off the top of my head. Usually I recognise AHS and not much else. Looks like American Gods will do a panel just before the premiere. Nice, was wondering if Starz would push it for an Emmy. As well as McShane, I wonder if they might try with some of their actresses. Chenoweth as Easter looks wonderful in what I've seen so far. I mentioned before, but the Drama category should be the biggest question mark. No Orphan Black, no Thrones, no Downton. That opens a lot of space in series and acting categories. Favourites for getting a nod imo are Westworld, The Crown and Stranger Things. Would be great to see some surprises like The Expanse, or Penny Dreadful (DONT CRUSH MY DREAMS!) Quick turn back to comedy, I think I made clear that Crazy Ex-Girlfriend deserves everything (thanks so much Enid for this recommendation, the show is so clever and so hilarious). But, stepping aside from my bias, I'm not sure it's likely to get much. Bloom might have a shot at a nomination in leading actress. But unless I'm mistaken she would be up against the Emmy Queen herself so... Supporting will be an interesting pool. McKinnon will probably be there and her work has been great this year, so she would deserve it. As for Guest, I'm going to say I hope Baldwin doesn't get anything for SNL, because a) It's a real stretch to classify him as a guest this year. He is more regular than the newer cast members; and b) I think after the first few performances (the debates mostly) he declined significantly. On the other hand, Melissa McCarthy deserves a nomination for her Spicer impression alone, and that's before she hosts. Believe she has been nominated for hosting before, so hopefully this is her year to win it! |
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Post by stoneheartsrevenge on May 1, 2017 0:35:14 GMT
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