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Post by atimeforwolves on May 21, 2016 13:36:25 GMT
So how do we think this "massacre" is gonna happen? The Mountain just busts in and kills everybody on his own? Are the Litle Birds present, in the crowd? Or is it just wildfire, one big boom and that's it? I think she wouldn't be able to carry out the massacre without the element of surprise, and only with the help of the Mountain and the Little Birds. So wildfire would have been better and more spectacular choice. Gregor can kill Septa Unella and someone from the escort. LIttle Birds attack someone (probably Pycelle, but Kevan maybe?). And Qyburn help with destroy High Sparrow.
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Post by atimeforwolves on May 21, 2016 13:07:26 GMT
The scenery is the same one as in scene 1, it's in the Red Keep next to the room where the small council met several times: The guy killed seems to be the one seen standing next to Lancel before. This definitely looks like the same courtyard. But I think it's outside Cersei's chambers instead of the Small Council Room. That's where the guards are stationed to keep her from leaving. She goes from her room right down there in 601&602. But it I like this idea. Sparrows and Unella come to escort Cersei to trial, and she kills them and doesn't show up to trial, but slaughtered everyone inside. Her chambers are on the upper floor. From this courtyard you can go directly to the room where Small Council is meeting and the Hand's office, which is next door. At least Tywin used this room as his office in S4 (in the scenes where he talks with Jaime and Cersei). The table, which you can see in the picture in the upper right corner, is the same at which Tywin ate lunch during Tyrion's trial and conversations with Jaime.
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Post by atimeforwolves on May 20, 2016 22:33:16 GMT
3. The scene where FrankenMountain kills one of Sparrows: Gregor kills (+) one of the Sparrows (+) without interruption (+) in the background the rest of the sparrows and perhaps High Sparrow, at least their feet (+) stair such as those in sept ( +), but the floor is different (-?) The scenery is the same one as in scene 1, it's in the Red Keep next to the room where the small council met several times: The guy killed seems to be the one seen standing next to Lancel before. Nice, now I see it, it's definitely the same place and the same scene. Previously, I thought it was inside, because of the light. Well, a person who stands in the background in a gray robe (the scene in which Gregor kills a sparrow), must therefore be Septa Unella. Edit: I guess it's the same courtyard as we also see in the background of the Tywin's office in S4. Edit 2: f.ex. in this scene (0:24 and next)
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Post by atimeforwolves on May 20, 2016 20:57:23 GMT
yeah but it says a small appearance while in 10 its significant True. We know that RR's Lyanna will be in couple of scenes so I'm guessing she first appears in 606 and then the full reveal is in 610. Edit: Maybe Bran just sees quick shots of visions in 606 like he did in 402. It's possible that he wanted to learn more, gets lost in visions (as BR warned him) and we'll see a lot of short shots, until Bran is in this vision of Night's King... and everything falls apart.
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Post by atimeforwolves on May 20, 2016 20:46:25 GMT
That sounds like a translation of the Polish article that has been discussed. Yes it is, but the translation is professional. This interview is in Polish very nicely written.
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Post by atimeforwolves on May 20, 2016 19:39:51 GMT
What are the political ramifications of Cersei not showing up for her trial and killing her accusers? I feel like that's a pretty clear admission of guilt right there. The smallfolk will be outraged I'm sure. Open rebellion against the Mad Queen? I think that the narrative point of view, the solution would be simpler. Admittedly, it seems to me, the poor residents should rebel. But if she kills the High Sparrow it's the same as cut off the head of the hydra. If the occasion destroy part of the Tyrell's troops (or they will leave the city before) and bring her own, she will have a big advantage over the population. Besides, with or without Tommen, I think Cersei is destined to reach the whole power and be the only Queen until there comes another, younger and more beautiful, to cast her down and take all that she holds dear .But still small rise in the background would be understandable and interesting.
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Post by atimeforwolves on May 20, 2016 19:09:38 GMT
ALSO welcome aboard!! I like you already Posted by Singer of Death: With King's Landing, i think Cersei's "I choose violence" played when she present herself in the trial and then release the Mountain on everyone. In the end, Jonathan Pryce told us only the beginning of his final scene, the rest is still strong speculation. I was looking for a counter-arguments that the trial will take place. I rewatched carefully trailers again- there are three scenes that in some way could possibly be combined with Cerseis' trial: 1. "I choose violence," Cersei, Lancel and Faith Militant- dialogue could match (+/-), but it definitely is a space in the Red Keep, all known interior sept look different (-) 2. Cersei and Tommen, they both go ahead with a full entourage - not a trial scene, because it's the throne room: window behind Tommen and the big door behind Cersei and this ... I do not know what it is exactly .. . this metal thing around the columns in the background (-) 3. The scene where FrankenMountain kills one of Sparrows: Gregor kills (+) one of the Sparrows (+) without interruption (+) in the background the rest of the sparrows and perhaps High Sparrow, at least their feet (+) stair such as those in sept ( +), but the floor is different (-?) It still may end up an ordinary trial, but I really I like the idea that Cersei did ambushed and will look like sept bursts from the same window that she looked over the city in the first episode. This scene made me shiver, you could feel the promise bloody revenge. Sorry for ugly edit this post and once again thank you all for the welcome and kind words
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Post by atimeforwolves on May 20, 2016 17:37:06 GMT
The official synopsis: The High Sparrow eyes another target. Jaime confronts a hero. Arya makes a plan. The North is reminded. Sooo, we can expect Bear Island with all these great speeches in this episode? It even would coincide nicely with the title: Northern Lords are truly still "broken men".
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Post by atimeforwolves on May 20, 2016 13:18:25 GMT
Oooh, thank you both
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Post by atimeforwolves on May 20, 2016 12:43:54 GMT
When somebody asks you for evidence of CLEGANEBOWL This gif made me cried with laughter. The Polish government so NOT proud I sit and invent potential scenarios CleganeBowl in other circumstances, and by far the most appeal to me are either Jaime or Arya helping Sandor get his sweet revenge
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Post by atimeforwolves on May 20, 2016 12:07:55 GMT
Are we sure this is even real? I'm going to say no just because I don't want to believe that someone would be stupid enough to give such a detailed account I asked around here and there, and I got the answer that the interview was authorized. Nothing more I can do to confirm information from the article without interrogating Jonathan Pryce himself. Besides, we know the rumors / leaks of a potential massacre in KL, and what opportunity would be better than Cersei's trial (many important characters in one place). For me, the most convincing option is using wild fire. We had enough foreshadowings of Cersei entering the path of the Mad Queen. She was humiliated, begins to have paranoid as Aerys had (it seems to her that the whole realm is gossip about her WoS and wants to have her little spies everywhere to know about it), she wants revenge and has always fascinated both wild fire and the idea of burning enemies who inflict harm her or her relatives. In addition, such a solution involves a meaningful whole with two scenes from the trailers: a vision in which Jaime kills the Mad King and her scene with "I choose Violence" (the scene can take place when the sparrows came to escort her to sept). Also a secret Tommen told her, may be something other than we heard in the next scene and Cersei began plotting own intrigue. We should also remember that the show all foreshadowings are used very sparingly and are always significant. In the end, dozens of hours to tell the story in the series, compared to several thousand pages in books, forced to focus on the most important issues. In conclusion, I feel that something's up. I've finished mourning after the potential death of Tyrells and the lack of CleganeBowl this season, but I honestly believe it in S7 in other circumstances. And btw hi everyone, I joined to you only yesterday, thanks to Sati. I love this forum and I am glad that I can be a part of it
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Post by atimeforwolves on May 19, 2016 21:36:55 GMT
In the first paragraph, the author of the interview says that it is "a unique material, available only on Kawerna". Jonathan Pryce said in this interview far too much than it should, it may seem suspicious. Try to learn more about the author and the circumstances of the interview, I think I should do it earlier, so far, this site seemed to me credible. It would be a real shame for me if all this proves to be nonsense :/
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Post by atimeforwolves on May 19, 2016 20:59:17 GMT
That's ok, besides, it could be difficult - Polish language is quite complicated in terms of grammar and all translators make text illogical sometimes
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Post by atimeforwolves on May 19, 2016 20:47:32 GMT
More like this:
Can you tell us how to end the story of the High Sparrow and Cersei in the sixth season? Everyone is waiting impatiently for the Cersei's trial, which will be held in Great Sept. They will present it literally everyone. My character has lost some vigilance - he is firmly convinced that Cersei appear at his request. When the messengers informed him that she had not left her house, he still believes that she will come to the trial, because in his opinion Cersei should be there. Meanwhile, behind him, and in the immediate vicinity, last scheming and intrigue chasing intrigue. Tension gradually builds up when the giant Sept fills slowly people - High Sparrow is still pleased with the turn of events and is confident that everything is going according to plan. No suspects that the fate in store for him a very unpleasant surprise ... I just correcting some obvious errors in translation (not sure if everything, sorry but my english still isn't as good as it should be).
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