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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2015 17:31:10 GMT
Oh I really doubt that. Call me when they tease and troll Euron fans for years and don't actually deliver. Yeah but now they have to cast Euron. Otherwise the Ironborn have done nothing. I cant wait to see peoples reactions when they see Euron and laugh that he's just another Ironborn and he'll probably run away, only to have him do something sick, like force people to eat each other... If Euron is in, fingers crossed they dont screw him up. Yeah, imagine him slaving dragons.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2015 18:37:53 GMT
Yeah but now they have to cast Euron. Otherwise the Ironborn have done nothing. I cant wait to see peoples reactions when they see Euron and laugh that he's just another Ironborn and he'll probably run away, only to have him do something sick, like force people to eat each other... If Euron is in, fingers crossed they dont screw him up. Yeah, imagine him slaving dragons. Cant wait for the fan reaction videos
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Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2015 9:28:30 GMT
Yeah but now they have to cast Euron. Otherwise the Ironborn have done nothing. I cant wait to see peoples reactions when they see Euron and laugh that he's just another Ironborn and he'll probably run away, only to have him do something sick, like force people to eat each other... If Euron is in, fingers crossed they dont screw him up. Yeah, imagine him slaving dragons. you day that as if the dragon horn in the book would be any different
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Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2015 9:38:24 GMT
Yeah, imagine him slaving dragons. you day that as if the dragon horn in the book would be any different I think it works.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2015 16:57:23 GMT
you day that as if the dragon horn in the book would be any different I think it works. Victarion again remembers that "Euron's gifts are poisoned" when he hears the red priest Moqorro state that those who blow the horn die.Edit: There's a logical reason Victarion isn't being cast for the show. He's Quentyn 2.0 with a horn.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2015 17:22:15 GMT
Victarion again remembers that "Euron's gifts are poisoned" when he hears the red priest Moqorro state that those who blow the horn die.Edit: There's a logical reason Victarion isn't being cast for the show. He's Quentyn 2.0 with a horn. He doesnt intend on blowing it himself. I saw a Preston Jacobs (so, maybe crackpot, but pretty interesting) video a while back that theorised that Dragonbinder is actually a slave horn, one that binds the people who hear it to the owner. It makes sense since some Valyrians are 'dragons' and those who have this strange title possess some immunity to fire. The guy who blew it died with charred lungs. Also, after it was blown, the ironborn were strangely all in favour of Euron, after the man died, they began to oppose him and other seemed to actively conspire against him, most noteably Aeron, the Reader and Vic. Maybe the horn does bond people to the horn blowers intentions, which sonce the man who blew it belonged to Euron, bound the IB to Euron, and this magic lasts until the blowers death. Its a wierd theory, but it actually seems wierdly plausable.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2015 17:34:32 GMT
Victarion again remembers that "Euron's gifts are poisoned" when he hears the red priest Moqorro state that those who blow the horn die.Edit: There's a logical reason Victarion isn't being cast for the show. He's Quentyn 2.0 with a horn. He doesnt intend on blowing it himself. I saw a Preston Jacobs (so, maybe crackpot, but pretty interesting) video a while back that theorised that Dragonbinder is actually a slave horn, one that binds the people who hear it to the owner. It makes sense since some Valyrians are 'dragons' and those who have this strange title possess some immunity to fire. The guy who blew it died with charred lungs. Also, after it was blown, the ironborn were strangely all in favour of Euron, after the man died, they began to oppose him and other seemed to actively conspire against him, most noteably Aeron, the Reader and Vic. Maybe the horn does bond people to the horn blowers intentions, which sonce the man who blew it belonged to Euron, bound the IB to Euron, and this magic lasts until the blowers death. Its a wierd theory, but it actually seems wierdly plausable. Having a hard time understanding this theory. The power of tinfoil is not strong enough. So if Victarion is not going to blow the horn himself, who does he intend to blow it?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2015 17:37:34 GMT
He doesnt intend on blowing it himself. I saw a Preston Jacobs (so, maybe crackpot, but pretty interesting) video a while back that theorised that Dragonbinder is actually a slave horn, one that binds the people who hear it to the owner. It makes sense since some Valyrians are 'dragons' and those who have this strange title possess some immunity to fire. The guy who blew it died with charred lungs. Also, after it was blown, the ironborn were strangely all in favour of Euron, after the man died, they began to oppose him and other seemed to actively conspire against him, most noteably Aeron, the Reader and Vic. Maybe the horn does bond people to the horn blowers intentions, which sonce the man who blew it belonged to Euron, bound the IB to Euron, and this magic lasts until the blowers death. Its a wierd theory, but it actually seems wierdly plausable. Having a hard time understanding this theory. The power of tinfoil is not strong enough. So if Victarion is not going to blow the horn himself, who does he intend to blow it? The dusky woman hell he has a fleet of men he could call on. I doubt he'll do it himself
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Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2015 17:44:23 GMT
I suppose so, but it doesn't seem to translate very well to television and as far as we know, they will cut Victarion the same as they cut fAegon and Quentyn. If it's not someone essential to the endgame, they're trimming them.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2015 17:57:18 GMT
I suppose so, but it doesn't seem to translate very well to television and as far as we know, they will cut Victarion the same as they cut fAegon and Quentyn. If it's not someone essential to the endgame, they're trimming them. I think they might give a lot of Victarions story to Yara since Asha's story in the books is impossible at this point.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2015 18:00:01 GMT
I suppose so, but it doesn't seem to translate very well to television and as far as we know, they will cut Victarion the same as they cut fAegon and Quentyn. If it's not someone essential to the endgame, they're trimming them. I think they might give a lot of Victarions story to Yara since Asha's story in the books is impossible at this point. Well then the horn really doesn't make sense at all for Yara so I don't think the horn is going to exist. I really never thought anything was going to come of it in the books, same as the Quentyn story. I *did* think fAegon would end up somewhere interesting and was surprised they cut that. Basically, those were side stories meant to add tension to Dany's survival / success. They don't pan out.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2015 18:10:36 GMT
I think they might give a lot of Victarions story to Yara since Asha's story in the books is impossible at this point. Well then the horn really doesn't make sense at all for Yara so I don't think the horn is going to exist. I really never thought anything was going to come of it in the books, same as the Quentyn story. I *did* think fAegon would end up somewhere interesting and was surprised they cut that. Basically, those were side stories meant to add tension to Dany's survival / success. They don't pan out. It doesnt mean they wont wind up doing something interesting. FAegon and Victarion have alrwady changed the face of the location theyre heading to majorly just by been there. Remember the story is vastly different in the adaptation. Mereen is not under siege, the Ironborn are not considered as much of a threat and Stannis does not seem to have any loyalists left in the Stormlands.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2015 18:20:57 GMT
Well it's true they add color and detail to the book story and I enjoyed fAegon's story a lot, but they don't contribute to Dany's return to Westeros is my point. I have a hard time discussing the "what ifs" for the books when they've been dropped from the show. That's not to say they aren't important but if they don't advance the main character's story in some significant way then it gets more difficult to speculate the character's future outcome.
If they cast Victarion, then I will start to speculate where it fits into Daenerys' possible return to Westeros because he may aid or hinder that progress.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2015 18:24:18 GMT
I suppose so, but it doesn't seem to translate very well to television and as far as we know, they will cut Victarion the same as they cut fAegon and Quentyn. If it's not someone essential to the endgame, they're trimming them. I think they might give a lot of Victarions story to Yara since Asha's story in the books is impossible at this point. I don't see why she couldn't meet up with Stannis next year.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2015 18:27:50 GMT
I think they might give a lot of Victarions story to Yara since Asha's story in the books is impossible at this point. I don't see why she couldn't meet up with Stannis next year. Because that would mean D&D would have to figure out how to twist Stannis' story, when they dont have a solid story to twist. George can only give them a outline. See D&D need substance with Stannis; so that they can blatantly ignore it.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2015 18:31:35 GMT
Ok, you guys go on ahead and keep smoking the pipe dream about Stannis ... I think I've tried to keep up with the theories in the Stannis-is-alive! thread but it makes my head hurt!
This is about Daenerys and how she will return to Westeros next season. We've explored a lot of possibilities. I don't really see how Euron or Victarion or a conglomerate of the two will involve Dany but it might and that's worth speculating. I suppose Euron could have the horn and intend to try and dominate Dany/Dragons with it instead of Victarion. Personally I never liked Euron or Victarion though I know they have their fan-club.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2015 18:49:35 GMT
If people can carry on believing Quentyn is alive, Im gonna keep on believing Stannis is.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2015 18:52:21 GMT
I'm still not convinced that Lady's part in the story is finished.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2015 19:50:11 GMT
I suppose so, but it doesn't seem to translate very well to television and as far as we know, they will cut Victarion the same as they cut fAegon and Quentyn. If it's not someone essential to the endgame, they're trimming them. Victarion propably isn't essential to the endgame. No more than Quentyn. Their purpose is. Quentyn's purpose was to free the dragons. While the blower dies, dragons listen.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2015 20:06:09 GMT
I'm still not convinced that Lady's part in the story is finished. The Queen in the North is going to warg her ghost?
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