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Post by Basil on Jun 9, 2016 10:27:52 GMT
Pictures with short descriptions make better effect than the wall of text (vide: popularity of infographics), so here you got: Thanks Old Gods, someone put it together. Wearing face of living person could be glamour. I'm addicted to logical explanations, so I'll belive in this theory until next episode. https://www.reddit.com/r/gameofthrones/comments/4n4rc8/everything_compiled_clues_about_the_identity_of_a/ That's a legit awesome theory and if it turned out to be true, major kudos to D&D, well played ...  There was something really odd about that scene, and I did consider that it wasn't really Arya when I was watching it. It just doesn't make any sense. Last time we saw Arya, she retrieved needle and was ready to fight the Waif, and now she's just casually strolling down the street, with her hands behind her back, seemingly not at all concerened that the Faceless Men will probably try to kill her and could be literally anybody. And where did she suddenly get all that money from? It would be really cool if it turned out that it was someone else wearing her face. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 9, 2016 10:33:25 GMT
Please remember that Girona was not only used for shots of Braavos, but also for King's Landing and Oldtown. So that scene in the Arab Baths could have been for any of those locations (and given the fact that it's "men only" my guess is it might well be a "Sam in the Citadel" scene). Yeah, but the baths has been used before in Season 4 when Davos met with Salladhor Saan. Exterior shots were used for all three cities, but I'm fairly sure that this scene is happening in Braavos. Those were not the same baths. There was no Spain shoot for s4 and that was shot in NI. Unless you just mean that maybe they're standing in for the same setting...in which case  |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 9, 2016 10:40:41 GMT
Yeah, but the baths has been used before in Season 4 when Davos met with Salladhor Saan. Exterior shots were used for all three cities, but I'm fairly sure that this scene is happening in Braavos. Those were not the same baths. There was no Spain shoot for s4 and that was shot in NI. Unless you just mean that maybe they're standing in for the same setting...in which case I meant that they'd be again standing for the bathhouse brothel or whatever that place was. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 9, 2016 10:43:15 GMT
Those were not the same baths. There was no Spain shoot for s4 and that was shot in NI. Unless you just mean that maybe they're standing in for the same setting...in which case I meant that they'd be again standing for the bathhouse brothel or whatever that place was. I think it's more likely some HoBaW-based location since they picked a very old Spanish location to shoot those interiors instead of the established NI set. And 608 credits "brief nudity" which in this show tends to mean man-ass. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 9, 2016 14:34:49 GMT
Pictures with short descriptions make better effect than the wall of text (vide: popularity of infographics), so here you got: Thanks Old Gods, someone put it together. Wearing face of living person could be glamour. I'm addicted to logical explanations, so I'll belive in this theory until next episode. https://www.reddit.com/r/gameofthrones/comments/4n4rc8/everything_compiled_clues_about_the_identity_of_a/ That's a legit awesome theory and if it turned out to be true, major kudos to D&D, well played ... There was something really odd about that scene, and I did consider that it wasn't really Arya when I was watching it. It just doesn't make any sense. Last time we saw Arya, she retrieved needle and was ready to fight the Waif, and now she's just casually strolling down the street, with her hands behind her back, seemingly not at all concerened that the Faceless Men will probably try to kill her and could be literally anybody. And where did she suddenly get all that money from? It would be really cool if it turned out that it was someone else wearing her face. IF this wild theory that dates all the way back to a start before Arya even joined the House of Black and White is true, I hope it's a story plot from George and Winds of Winter anyways. He did release the "Mercy" chapter quite early on so I suspect he's had this story baking for awhile and let D&D in on it. I think they are ok writers with their own material (most of the time), but this one feels like a Hodor type mind-bender twist that GRRM likes to do. Also, what do you think about the part where they already had Arya's face last season just before she went blind? I never really understood that. Most of us assumed it was her hallucinating as the poison took effect (she didn't drink anything though like in the books) but that seems a lot less likely now. She was fully coherent and she pulled off many faces. WHO was that anyways? The Waif was actually Jaqen at that moment and not the Waif. But that wasn't the waif who drank the poison and died either, was it? My noodle is baked on this one. That scene was never really explained and here we are next season suspecting they already have Arya's face anyways which seems very likely. Jaqen can clearly be anyone he wants at will and does not have to actually "put the face on" to do it. |
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Post by Basil on Jun 9, 2016 15:02:17 GMT
That's a legit awesome theory and if it turned out to be true, major kudos to D&D, well played ... There was something really odd about that scene, and I did consider that it wasn't really Arya when I was watching it. It just doesn't make any sense. Last time we saw Arya, she retrieved needle and was ready to fight the Waif, and now she's just casually strolling down the street, with her hands behind her back, seemingly not at all concerened that the Faceless Men will probably try to kill her and could be literally anybody. And where did she suddenly get all that money from? It would be really cool if it turned out that it was someone else wearing her face. IF this wild theory that dates all the way back to a start before Arya even joined the House of Black and White is true, I hope it's a story plot from George and Winds of Winter anyways. He did release the "Mercy" chapter quite early on so I suspect he's had this story baking for awhile and let D&D in on it. I think they are ok writers with their own material (most of the time), but this one feels like a Hodor type mind-bender twist that GRRM likes to do. Also, what do you think about the part where they already had Arya's face last season just before she went blind? I never really understood that. Most of us assumed it was her hallucinating as the poison took effect (she didn't drink anything though like in the books) but that seems a lot less likely now. She was fully coherent and she pulled off many faces. WHO was that anyways? The Waif was actually Jaqen at that moment and not the Waif. But that wasn't the waif who drank the poison and died either, was it? My noodle is baked on this one. That scene was never really explained and here we are next season suspecting they already have Arya's face anyways which seems very likely. Jaqen can clearly be anyone he wants at will and does not have to actually "put the face on" to do it. I never understood that scene in the finale of s5 either. Someone died, but in s6, both the waif and Jaqen are still around, so who exactly was it? No one, I guess. Okay, I think there is no Jaqen, the face itself is the personality and whoever wears it, automatically assumes the persona of Jaqen H'ghar. Could be that every time Arya has been interacting with Jaqen in the HoBaW, she was talking to different no ones who were wearing the same face. So if that was indeed a faceless man who was wearing Arya's face in last episode, maybe that's why they reacted the way they did to being stabbed. Because it wasn't Jaqen wearing Arya's face, it was no one, and no one doesn't have a personality, they assume the personality of whoever's face they're wearing. My brain is melting. Maybe we're simply not meant to fully understand the mysteries of the Faceless Men. |
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Post by Admin on Jun 9, 2016 17:38:19 GMT
IF this wild theory that dates all the way back to a start before Arya even joined the House of Black and White is true, I hope it's a story plot from George and Winds of Winter anyways. He did release the "Mercy" chapter quite early on so I suspect he's had this story baking for awhile and let D&D in on it. I think they are ok writers with their own material (most of the time), but this one feels like a Hodor type mind-bender twist that GRRM likes to do. Also, what do you think about the part where they already had Arya's face last season just before she went blind? I never really understood that. Most of us assumed it was her hallucinating as the poison took effect (she didn't drink anything though like in the books) but that seems a lot less likely now. She was fully coherent and she pulled off many faces. WHO was that anyways? The Waif was actually Jaqen at that moment and not the Waif. But that wasn't the waif who drank the poison and died either, was it? My noodle is baked on this one. That scene was never really explained and here we are next season suspecting they already have Arya's face anyways which seems very likely. Jaqen can clearly be anyone he wants at will and does not have to actually "put the face on" to do it. I never understood that scene in the finale of s5 either. Someone died, but in s6, both the waif and Jaqen are still around, so who exactly was it? No one, I guess. Okay, I think there is no Jaqen, the face itself is the personality and whoever wears it, automatically assumes the persona of Jaqen H'ghar. Could be that every time Arya has been interacting with Jaqen in the HoBaW, she was talking to different no ones who were wearing the same face. So if that was indeed a faceless man who was wearing Arya's face in last episode, maybe that's why they reacted the way they did to being stabbed. Because it wasn't Jaqen wearing Arya's face, it was no one, and no one doesn't have a personality, they assume the personality of whoever's face they're wearing. My brain is melting. Maybe we're simply not meant to fully understand the mysteries of the Faceless Men. In all honesty I just noped out of trying to understand Hodor, Benjen and this shit with Arya this season. I tried, my head started hurting so I just gave up |
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Post by darwint on Jun 9, 2016 17:44:44 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jun 9, 2016 18:09:53 GMT
Decent explanations of all the crazy theories going around. The only one that makes sense to me is the last one that Jaqen has the magical ability to take faces without killing people and did this to set up the waif and to protect Arya. |
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Post by MarcusAntonius on Jun 13, 2016 3:44:02 GMT
So...how does Arya go from this:  To this:  ???? Do CotF show up to stab her in the tits with some power-dragonglass or what is your theory here? Bandages |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 13, 2016 4:33:00 GMT
So...how does Arya go from this: To this: ???? Do CotF show up to stab her in the tits with some power-dragonglass or what is your theory here? Bandages Yeah this could have been a bit better explained. At the very least, some sort of potion from Jaqen or something. It was a bit unrealistic to expect her to run that fast and jump like that when just the night before she had been groaning in pain and could hardly move in the bed. I'm also the first to admit I hyped the shit out of "That was actually not Arya" theories and it turned out to just be Arya. That was a disappointment but they saved it by making the rest of the scenes awesome and of course the ending with a bloody face on the wall was tops so I'm going to forgive the injury thing. Lady Crane sure had a lot of bottles of 'stuff' up there on that shelf for just an actress, you know? I still think there's more to her than just an actress but who knows. I'm done with trying to get into tin-foil complicated plots! |
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Post by mandzipop on Jun 13, 2016 4:33:58 GMT
I admit, I was wrong.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 13, 2016 4:37:23 GMT
Well a lot of us were.  The entire internet was on fire with crazy theories. Some were crackpot but some were believable. I cast my lot in with those who thought maybe it was Jaqen testing the waif and pretending to be Arya. Ah well, we made it way too complicated apparently.  |
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Post by Admin on Jun 13, 2016 5:55:49 GMT
And that wasn't even the dumbest part of the episode.
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Post by atimeforwolves on Jun 13, 2016 7:57:17 GMT
The plot-armor is strong with this one. I prefer twist or more belivable explanation, but it wasn't that bad after all. I should know better that we have to get ready for shortcuts  In the end:  |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 13, 2016 10:27:42 GMT
All the theories were better than what we got...
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Post by Deleted on Jun 13, 2016 21:35:48 GMT
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Post by GreenChili on Jun 13, 2016 21:39:33 GMT
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In the end:
