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Post by 7timesdamnedshewolf on May 30, 2016 20:06:54 GMT
So, the wildfire cellar. Was that the same one Tyrion visited way back in S2? If so, I think it's safe to assume that the shot of the wildfire going boom is from later in the season and MAD QUEEN CERSEI FUCKING CONFIRMED GET HYPE. yep, same place. in any case, the vision has to be from the future since no one's set kl afire before now.
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Post by Deleted on May 30, 2016 20:16:04 GMT
So, the wildfire cellar. Was that the same one Tyrion visited way back in S2? If so, I think it's safe to assume that the shot of the wildfire going boom is from later in the season and MAD QUEEN CERSEI FUCKING CONFIRMED GET HYPE. I previously had reservations about the theories that Cersei might use the wildfire but after those heavy foreshadowing visions I'd have to say the chances are pretty good it's going to happen for the "Mad Queen" event! I will say though, I hope not ALL of it's used up or that at least some is left for Qyburn or Sam or somebody to figure out how to make more before the army of undead make it that far south! As much as I think seeing King's Landing burn to the ground would be an amazing thing, I want them to use that wildfire on wights.
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Post by Deleted on May 30, 2016 20:19:29 GMT
Are people assuming that the vision of a dragon flying over KL is from the future?
Because I always thought that's from the past, when the Targaryens still rode dragons.
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Post by stoneheartsrevenge on May 30, 2016 20:21:29 GMT
If it's from the future I don't think it is what Isaac referenced, since it is a reused clip from season 4. Back then I assumed it was from the past too, but I'm not sure it's an especially important part, especially in comparison with the other visions
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Post by Deleted on May 30, 2016 20:21:53 GMT
So, the wildfire cellar. Was that the same one Tyrion visited way back in S2? If so, I think it's safe to assume that the shot of the wildfire going boom is from later in the season and MAD QUEEN CERSEI FUCKING CONFIRMED GET HYPE. I previously had reservations about the theories that Cersei might use the wildfire but after those heavy foreshadowing visions I'd have to say the chances are pretty good it's going to happen for the "Mad Queen" event! I will say though, I hope not ALL of it's used up or that at least some is left for Qyburn or Sam or somebody to figure out how to make more before the army of undead make it that far south! As much as I think seeing King's Landing burn to the ground would be an amazing thing, I want them to use that wildfire on wights. there has been far too much foreshadowing, in both book and show, of cersei burning down KL for it to amount to nothing IMO. And that's not including this vision which just makes it all the more likely
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Post by Deleted on May 30, 2016 20:23:35 GMT
Leak spoilers So Cersei burns the Sept down in the finale, and the whole city next year?
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Post by Deleted on May 30, 2016 20:25:26 GMT
Are people assuming that the vision of a dragon flying over KL is from the future? Because I always thought that's from the past, when the Targaryens still rode dragons. I thought it was to foreshadow the future when Dany flies over King's Landing with Drogon but the fact that the city is not burnt down makes me wonder if perhaps it's from the past as you say. We assume KL will get burnt down from the wildfire shots so it's still quite a puzzle.
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Post by Deleted on May 30, 2016 20:29:49 GMT
Part 3 of the "The Game revealed" docuseries, this time covering Episodes 5 & 6. "Nothing is going to get between that kid and me...'cause I'm one bad motherfucker." -Joseph Mawle.
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Post by TheMadQueen on May 30, 2016 20:47:48 GMT
Part 3 of the "The Game revealed" docuseries, this time covering Episodes 5 & 6. "Nothing is going to get between that kid and me...'cause I'm one bad motherfucker." -Joseph Mawle. Lol I was hoping somebody would bring that up!!
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Post by Singer of Death on May 30, 2016 21:01:20 GMT
Randyll doesn't deserve to be saved by Sam Approve! I hope Randyll gets Pyat Pree treatment That's harsh. I mean, Randyll is a dick, but he doesn't deserve that...
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Post by archiechvyalthan on May 30, 2016 21:03:20 GMT
Part 3 of the "The Game revealed" docuseries, this time covering Episodes 5 & 6. "Nothing is going to get between that kid and me...'cause I'm one bad motherfucker." -Joseph Mawle. He's already a boss by virtue of being the only cast member they managed to keep a secret
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Post by Deleted on May 30, 2016 21:04:13 GMT
"Nothing is going to get between that kid and me...'cause I'm one bad motherfucker." -Joseph Mawle. He's already a boss by virtue of being the only cast member they managed to keep a secret Wasn't Jaqen's return for Season 5 a secret?
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Post by archiechvyalthan on May 30, 2016 21:06:13 GMT
He's already a boss by virtue of being the only cast member they managed to keep a secret Wasn't Jaqen's return for Season 5 a secret? Nope. Wlaschiha's agency had announced his return. (Though I only meant season 6).
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Post by Deleted on May 30, 2016 21:09:02 GMT
He's already a boss by virtue of being the only cast member they managed to keep a secret Wasn't Jaqen's return for Season 5 a secret? I love that they can slip these returns completely under the radar and manage to surprise us even in the spoiler filled environment of the show's filming. I remember asking back during filming if Joseph Mawle had been sighted anywhere on set and everyone said no and then quoted an interview he did for another film where asked if he might return to GoT he very convincingly said something like "If so I haven't heard anything about it." He should have coached Kit on how to be more convincing with your off-screen lies.
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Post by boojam on May 30, 2016 21:17:26 GMT
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Post by Shaena on May 30, 2016 21:18:27 GMT
I agree with you about leaving beind a motherless child to an extent, but I confess I personally would love for Dany to have a child because House Targaryen is my favorite as such, and I would like to see them continue in some fashion. I'm not sure if Jon can do it either (having been magically resurrected and all), not to mention in such a case the mother of his children would most likely be Arya (unfortunately), and those kids would be much more Starks than Targaryens. I love the Starks, but they're Ice to the Targs' Fire for a reason. It wouldn't be the same. Elsewise, I'm not sure if Martin overuses death in childbirth seeing as it had been one of the most common causes of women's death during medieval times. Would it really be more progressive if Rhaella's bedgown caught on fire, Lyanna committed suicide, and Joanna died of a summer chill? Imho, once Martin decided not to include the mothers, it doesn't matter all that much what cause of death he chose for them. They are dead and not important for their children's story. If I complained to Martin, it would be about excluding the mothers in the first place, not making their cause of death childbirth. I understand that some may reservations about a major female character dying this way, but I would be troubled by it only if she died so path would be cleared for a male character to take her place in the plot. Otherwise it just shows that for all her strength and willpower and magic she's still only a human being made of flesh and bones. I certainly don't see death in childbirth demeaning only because it's exclusive to women. Two of my great-grandmothers died in childbirth, although they had been reportedly both very strong and capable women. Unfortunately, humankind aren't a race of the oviparous. Nevertheless I see I hit a nerve, so I'll drop it now. Reagading GRRM use of death by childbirth, there have actually been six mother that I can remember dying of childbirth (Lady Tully, Joanna Lannister, Rhaella Targaryen, Lyanna Stark, Dalla (Mance's wife) and Aemon Steelsong's mother), I would say that is quite a few for this series. I would agree with you that the real problem is using death by childbirth to write the mother out our three heroes stories, but this is very common in fairy tales, see Disney. I would disagree highly that her death in battle fighting to defeat the others would somehow take away from her strength, power and magic, on the contrary it would actually show that it was these traits that allowed her to fight/defeat the others. It was her sacrifice to birth the dragons, her strath to gather her armies that became an integral part of the survival of humanity. It would if not mitigate the saddest of her lost, at least show that her lost was an important factor in the defeat of this plague that threaten to destroy humanity. I'm sorry about your grandmothers, that's really sad and teerible. But I stand by what I said, in this context that Dany's death of childbirth is demoralizing because she died for nothing else than being a woman. And don't worry I'm not mad, I just really hate the idea of Dany dying in childbirth. I would love for her to have children and continue the Targaryen line but I'm not sure that's in her cards. (OK, I'll break my promise. I hope you are still not wroth with me. ) Actually, in the part you answered here, I had spoken of childbirth. Yes, I understand the reasons as to why it would suck, but I had meant to say is that I don't think it would make Dany weak and take a from way her accomplishments. It would just mean she's a mortal person. The same goes for Jon or Tyrion dying of prostate cancer (yeah I know it's guaranteered not to happen). Bad stuff like that happens independently of a person's strength and women tend(ed) to have it worse than men because life is unfair. (What I find more disconcerting than the death of mothers in childbirth by itself is the fact that Maesters seem to be actually more knowledgable than medieval doctors and midwives, and they are usually able to save the child - even twins - but not the mother. Oh well, nobody's perfect.) To change the topic, how long do you figure it will take Bran to reach the Wall? It would be funny if after two seasons' worth of getting there, it would take him only half a season to get back. Then again, I have a (n unrealistic) desire for Bran to crash Jon'and Sansa's storyline in the finale. I hope Meera won't be offed once they reach their destination.
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Post by Admin on May 30, 2016 21:23:24 GMT
What was in previously on, guys?
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Post by Father of Dragons on May 30, 2016 21:26:03 GMT
What was in previously on, guys? Well there was a fair bit of Red Wedding, as if to remind people of what a bastard Walder Frey is
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Post by Deleted on May 30, 2016 21:26:57 GMT
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Post by 7timesdamnedshewolf on May 30, 2016 21:27:20 GMT
To change the topic, how long do you figure it will take Bran to reach the Wall? It would be funny if after two seasons' worth of getting there, it would take him only half a season to get back. Then again, I have a (n unrealistic) desire for Bran to crash Jon'and Sansa's storyline in the finale. I hope Meera won't be offed once they reach their destination. it was only 1 season from the wall to the cave (3.10-4.10), and they have a horse now so i can believe they'd make better time that way than hodor dragging bran and meera helping jojen walk.
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