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Post by serpounce on Jun 1, 2015 14:04:10 GMT
By the way, it's slightly off topic, but it's incredible to me. On Westeros, though this episode has one of the highest average scores, the rant and rave thread is about 16 pages longer than the positive nitpicking thread. How is that even possible? They're in page 20 now. I went to peek over and this is what I found: It's their reason for existing. They watch in order to be able to complain about it. Very sad.
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Post by King Tommen on Jun 1, 2015 14:09:35 GMT
That description, my friends, is the definition of "echo chamber".
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Post by Deleted on Jun 1, 2015 14:18:22 GMT
Hopefully this doesn't bring the mood down, but I just want to thank Admin again for giving us a place to be. I just ventured over to the smoldering ruins and saw this: "What I dsliked about the episode is that people liked it. I want the show to fail, damnit". I will never return there. Wow. Just. Wow. I'm never going back there again either. I cannot believe the level of immaturity people there have stooped to lately. The show writers, actors, directors, special effects teams, costume designers ... so many hundreds of people have poured their heart and soul into making that episode as epic as it was and the best the haters can come up with is that they are mad it was so great because they want the show to fail?! It really is heartbreaking sometimes how horrible people can be on the internet. I always felt like people who enjoy reading such wonderful books must be intelligent and mature, but frankly, they act like spoiled children.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 1, 2015 14:19:37 GMT
I don't get it. If I don't like a TV show, I don't watch it. There have been plenty of TV shows that I liked at the beginning but after a season or two they just didn't do it for me so I stopped watching them. I don't have the kind of time to hate-watch anything. I remember this one time they made a movie out of the book series I liked and it turned out really bad. My friend made me hate watch it and I could only make it about half way before I had to stop. There is nothing more I hate than watching something I don't like. I started reading the review but then Andy said that Dany could throw her dragons at the end of the sea for all the good they'll do in the apocalypse. And then I faced palmed when he mentioned how useful Valyrian Steel is.
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Post by King Tommen on Jun 1, 2015 14:20:05 GMT
The Twitter recap that they put together over at WoTW after every episode should be pretty amazing this week.
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Post by freypies on Jun 1, 2015 14:22:42 GMT
I started reading the review by then Andy said that Dany could throw her dragons at the end of the sea for all the good they'll do in the apocalypse. And then I faced palmed when he mentioned how useful Valyrian Steel is. Yeah, some of his reasoning didn't make much sense to me at all! However, it's good to see him loving the episode so much!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 1, 2015 14:29:59 GMT
Wow. Just. Wow. I'm never going back there again either. I cannot believe the level of immaturity people there have stooped to lately. The show writers, actors, directors, special effects teams, costume designers ... so many hundreds of people have poured their heart and soul into making that episode as epic as it was and the best the haters can come up with is that they are mad it was so great because they want the show to fail?! It really is heartbreaking sometimes how horrible people can be on the internet. I always felt like people who enjoy reading such wonderful books must be intelligent and mature, but frankly, they act like spoiled children. This. I gave that site another try, but 90% of the threads could be entitled "waaaahhh!" and another 5% could be entitled "what I would make happen if I were a writer (and thank God I'm not, because this is some bizarre yet boring shit I'm about to throw at you)".
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Post by boojam on Jun 1, 2015 14:32:28 GMT
Old Tounge spoken.
That the first time?
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Post by King Tommen on Jun 1, 2015 14:43:58 GMT
Also funny that Ramsay offers up essentially the same battle plan that Yara did on her attack on the Dreadfort. I guess he wanted to try to be on the other side of the coin in that type of confrontation.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 1, 2015 14:50:23 GMT
They're in page 20 now. I went to peek over and this is what I found: It's their reason for existing. They watch in order to be able to complain about it. Very sad. That description, my friends, is the definition of "echo chamber". I like that the whole "I dont like it, it's not good, people are over reacting, this wasnt in the books" line is somehow still regarded by some as a credible arguement. It wasnt in the books! Nah. But it should of been. People complained that the FotFM got cut, or at least done off sceen. Yep. But this was way better.
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Post by boojam on Jun 1, 2015 14:54:19 GMT
This episode verbalized something that I have thought about. Tyrion makes the suggestion that Dany stay and rule Essos, maybe even more conquest. I don't think , not sure, GRRM has ever suggested this in the books.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 1, 2015 15:03:57 GMT
One of my friends who is a book reader has been insisting that they did the Mance switch after all, even though it was so clear from the acting that Mance was really burned. So, I felt some schadenfreude watching Tormund beat Rattleshirt to death with a stick. There! There's your Mance/Rattleshirt theory! BEAT IT DEAD.
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Post by sj4iy on Jun 1, 2015 15:06:04 GMT
Wow. Just. Wow. I'm never going back there again either. I cannot believe the level of immaturity people there have stooped to lately. The show writers, actors, directors, special effects teams, costume designers ... so many hundreds of people have poured their heart and soul into making that episode as epic as it was and the best the haters can come up with is that they are mad it was so great because they want the show to fail?! It really is heartbreaking sometimes how horrible people can be on the internet. I always felt like people who enjoy reading such wonderful books must be intelligent and mature, but frankly, they act like spoiled children. I've read the books, and while I liked them in general, they weren't the greatest thing I've ever read. I think it's not reading books that makes you act spoiled...I think it's treating the books like some sort of bible and the best thing you've ever read that does- because it causes you to treat a fictional story waaaaaaay...too...seriously. It's why they can't enjoy the tv show for what it is. And why they deride people who haven't read or don't want to read the books.
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Post by serpounce on Jun 1, 2015 15:06:55 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jun 1, 2015 15:08:30 GMT
I always felt like people who enjoy reading such wonderful books must be intelligent and mature, but frankly, they act like spoiled children. I've read the books, and while I liked them in general, they weren't the greatest thing I've ever read. I think it's not reading books that makes you act spoiled...I think it's treating the books like some sort of bible and the best thing you've ever read that does- because it causes you to treat a fictional story waaaaaaay...too...seriously. It's why they can't enjoy the tv show for what it is. And why they deride people who haven't read or don't want to read the books. Agreed. I read the books myself...more than once. You might say I was obsessed with them. But I'm happy when the show improves upon the books, and I don't see it as some sort of betrayal. A lot of these people feel betrayed if any line is changed.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 1, 2015 15:21:44 GMT
I had said I wasn't sure if 508-510 could top 408-410 for me...I might've been wrong!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 1, 2015 15:35:03 GMT
Maybe Martin has timed that quote to make us think she's out when he knows fine well she's due to appear in 2 weeks and he just wants to maximise surprise
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Post by serpounce on Jun 1, 2015 15:45:42 GMT
I was looking around at reviews and found this. I couldn't hold in my laughter!
Comeuppance, it tastes like a dungeon floor
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Post by Enid on Jun 1, 2015 15:50:20 GMT
The big question now is: how are we supposed to give a fuck about anything else after watching what the WW can do??!!!!
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Post by King Tommen on Jun 1, 2015 15:55:22 GMT
It's possible they gender-swapped the part they'd written as Varamyr and turned it into Karsi, I guess. Varamyr's defining characteristic is that he's a skin-changer. I have a hard time believing you bother calling a character you want to cast that name without the intention of him keeping that characteristic. They may have just changed their mind but it's the first time that I'm aware of that a character on a casting call didn't end up appearing in the show. Hey Konrad, looks like you were right about them swapping out Varamyr for Karsi. This interview with the director confirms that Karsi was originally supposed to be a man but they changed their minds. That also explains why a role as significant as Karsi was never a part of any S5 casting call, it was the Varamyr one listed right from the very first one. Good deduction skills. www.mtv.com/news/2173859/game-of-thrones-hardhome-interview/
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