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Post by Nezzer on Jul 16, 2015 17:46:57 GMT
Emilia, Lena and Dinklage probably have something in their contracts that says they'll be nominated for the Emmys no matter what. It's not so bad, to be honest, because today the Emmys are more about popularity than quality, unfortunately, so HBO plays their cards according to the new rules of the game.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2015 18:31:10 GMT
Too bad Stephen, Sophie, Alfie or Kit didn't get nominated for their work this year but that's to be expected really. Dinklage, Clarke and Lena seem to get the nod every time, although only Lena deserves it this year. She's the only of them with the chance of winning anyways.
And yay for Podeswa! He's a fellow Torontonian! I think he did do the best job this year tbh despite that fight in Dorne. Although Kill the Boy was a better ep. than Unbowed Unbent Unbroken on many levels, it's true that there was nothing in 505 as well-directed and perfectly-atmospheric as 506's HOBAW sequences and Sansa's wedding (which, say what you will about it, was tastefully-handled by the man behind the camera).
EDIT: I'll just add one of these to celebrate...
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Post by Admin on Jul 16, 2015 18:45:45 GMT
Oh man. Emmys finally became more ridiculous than Oscars. most of the nominations are in the technical categories which are all 100% deserved. The only above the line ones I'd question are the lack of Hardhome for directing and mothers mercy for writing, but I would just swap that out with an earlier episode rather than omit it completely. Oh, and Emilia but the Emmys have always been lazy with acting nods. I don't care about technical categories, i mean the writing, directing and acting ones are such a joke  Not just with GoT - I cannot believe Ellie Kemper didn't get nominated. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2015 19:38:08 GMT
most of the nominations are in the technical categories which are all 100% deserved. The only above the line ones I'd question are the lack of Hardhome for directing and mothers mercy for writing, but I would just swap that out with an earlier episode rather than omit it completely. Oh, and Emilia but the Emmys have always been lazy with acting nods. I don't care about technical categories, i mean the writing, directing and acting ones are such a joke Not just with GoT - I cannot believe Ellie Kemper didn't get nominated. I'm not fond of TUKS and she is 99% of the reason why, so I can't say her snub is too devastating for me personally I'm more floored at Jim Parsons, but he's already won four times, so. |
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Post by boojam on Jul 16, 2015 21:57:41 GMT
The Emmy nomination ballots are here: Emmy Nom
Miguel Sapochnik was 'ballot' nominated for Hardhome, it does not say if he submitted himself can't tell how one know which are self submissions. I see HardHome got a cinematography nom. Hardhome was the real standout all the locations came off well, Tyrion and Daenerys conversation was unusually good , Emilia seemed on her marks better than usual, I still think some directors let her slide. The Hardhome of Hardhome not only had all that action, unique in its own way but also the acting was fine, especially with that stand out performance by Birgitte Hjort Sørensen. Probably the best episode of season 5. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2015 22:48:19 GMT
GrrM's two cents.
"It's an incredible list, I applaud everyone on it... and all of those who didn't make it either. GAME OF THRONES is what it is because of the untiring efforts of the best cast and crew in television today. Many were recognized by the Academy today for their work... but others, equally dedicated and talented, were not. But the show would not the hit it is without their talent and dedication.
The 24 nominations garnered by GAME OF THRONES is not only the highest number of any show this year, but among the highest ever received by a single series for a single season in the entire history of television. (For numbers geeks, the record remains 27, garnered by NYPD BLUE in 1994).
Today is a day for celebrations and congratulations, for popping champagne corks and raising toasts and exchanging thanks... but before we do too many cartwheels, it would be wise to remember that GAME OF THRONES also led the Emmy nominations last year, with 19 nods, only to get skunked on the night of the televised awards. The same as the year before, and the year before that. Like many fantasy shows before us, GOT is often honored for our special effects, costumes, makeup, stuntwork, set design, and cinematography (this year, please note, we have four of five finalists for cinematography), but seldom for writing, directing, or acting. Peter Dinklage's Emmy as Best Supporting Actor for season one remains the ONLY award the show has ever won in those categories, in fact.
Will that change this year? One can hope, I suppose.
But no matter what happens on Emmy Night, let me say once again that it truly is an honor to be nominated, especially given the competition. This truly is The Golden Age of Television, especially for drama. GAME OF THRONES faces the usual formidable competition for the "Big One," the award for Best Dramatic Series... but as distinguished a list as that is, there are so many incredible shows that did NOT make the cut that it boggles the mind. It's great to see BETTER CALL SAUL and ORANGE IS THE NEW BLACK on this list, but where is MASTERS OF SEX? THE KNICK? HALT AND CATCH FIRE? How about THE VIKINGS? I really thought JUSTIFIED might make it, for its final season. And OUTLANDER, how in the world did they overlook OUTLANDER, with its music and its costumes and its cinematography and the incredible performances of its three leads (especially Tobias Menzies in his double role)? Why is Nick Offermann not on the ballot for PARKS AND RECREATION? How could BIG BANG THEORY possibly fall off? Truly, the Academy (of which I am a member) moves in mysterious ways.
Even where GOT itself is concerned... I am thrilled to see both Emilia Clarke and Lena Headey among the nominees, but I wanted Maisie Williams and Sophie Turner and Natalie Dormer as well... it's great that two of our episodes got nominated for directing, but how did they overlook "Hardhome?"... and will Iain Glen and Conleth Hill and John Bradley West ever get any recognition, and...
Okay, okay, I know, I am being greedy, and every producer on every other show on television is probably saying the same things about his own cast just now. Let me just savor the moment.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2015 1:56:12 GMT
George is right, how did they overlook Hardhome?! I can't believe it didn't get a nomination as it was by far one of the best episodes of the entire series if not THE best. But that's ok, with 24 nominations, most everyone's over the moon about this considering how many times the show has been snubbed in the past where it should have been nominated.
I also agree Sophie and Maisie have been standouts this season. They're young still, but they've essentially "grown up" on the show and their acting ability has grown too by leaps and bounds. I think the Emmy process is known for snubbing younger actors though. I'm glad Lena got a nomination and I think she has a good chance of winning it. Like others, I don't really think Emilia's performances this year earned one though she *has* improved a great deal this season as did Kit.
This is just a great season overall for the whole crew. I'm sure there's a lot of celebrating happening and I can't wait to see who takes home all the awards!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2015 2:14:25 GMT
The fact that Unbowed, Unbent, Unbroken was even nominated is hilarious because it was probably the weakest episode of the season. Lena definitely deserves the nomination and could win, but what episodes are Emilia and Peter even submitting? I think Peter was great this season and Emilia has improved, but being nominated instead of Kit, Sophie, Stephen, Iain, Alfie, and Maisie. Hm. I guess it's more of choose an actor to represent your show instead of focusing on the performances.
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Post by kingeomer on Jul 17, 2015 2:40:53 GMT
While this season was not my favorite, congrats to the show for all the nods. I really do not think Emilia deserved her nod though. Honestly Sophie should have been there in her place. The Sansa storyline was not my favorite but that was not due to the acting, but the writing. And Peter is a check off nomination, as mentioned upthread Iain Glen upstaged him this season and I think Alfie Allen and Stephen Dillane were much better.
I wouldn't mind seeing Lena walk away with a win.
But I am happy to see Tatiana Maslany finally get her overdue nomination. And to see Taraji P Henson, Titus Burgess also get recognized for great turns this season.
If I had to predict the winners, I'd say:
Best Drama (this is basically eeny-meeny miney mo here): Mad Men, final season farewell
Best Actor: Jon Hamm. Come on Emmys, he deserves it. It's long overdue. Failing that, Bob Odenkirk
Best Supporting Actor (drama): Jonathan Banks...Emmys you screwed up the first time not giving it to him...right the wrong.
Best Actress Drama: Tatiana Maslany. Second choice: Taraji P Henson
Best Supporting Actress Drama: Lena Headey
Best Comedy: Parks and Rec, long overdue 2nd choice..The Unbreakable Kimmy Schmidt
Best Comedic Actress: Amy Poehler. Like Jon Hamm, she is long overdue.
Best Supporting Actress Comedy: Mayim Balik
Best Actor Comedy: Jeffrey Tambor
Best Supporting Actor Comedy: Titus Burgess
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2015 2:48:22 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2015 3:05:50 GMT
The fact that Unbowed, Unbent, Unbroken was even nominated is hilarious because it was probably the weakest episode of the season. Lena definitely deserves the nomination and could win, but what episodes are Emilia and Peter even submitting? I think Peter was great this season and Emilia has improved, but being nominated instead of Kit, Sophie, Stephen, Iain, Alfie, and Maisie. Hm. I guess it's more of choose an actor to represent your show instead of focusing on the performances. In fairness it wasn't nominated for "best episode" (not that such an award exists, mind you) it was for best direction, which there was a lot of in the ep. I think that the WF ending in 506 as an isolated sequence was probably the best directing of the season actually. I've not been able to convince you yet that 506 is a better episode than 501 and 502 (though there's plenty of time between now and ep. 601 for me to try at that  ) but other than the Snakes fight it was very tightly-directed.
In unfairness (to coin a phrase) it's probable that Podeswa and Nutter were nominated over Sapochnik because they're more established names in TV than he is, which is something that the Emmys seem to like rewarding people for. I have to say though, that I don't mind that particularly in this instance because I think that, although 507 and 508 were very strong episodes helmed by Sapochnik, and Nutter and Podeswa each had an episode apiece that ended up weaker than both 507 and 508 (509 and 506 respectively)...I still think that overall Nutter and Podeswa had more standout moments directorially in s5 than Sapochnik did. That's not to say that I don't think the Hardhome sequence was great (though I do prefer 510 to 508) because it plainly was, but I felt there were higher points in Nutter and Podeswa's eps. that were handled better.
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Still, I'm sure 508 will rake more awards than any ep. because of the technical side of things. And I'm sure Sapochnik will get a director's nod next year because he's doing 609 and 610. So it'll all even out in the end.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2015 4:03:34 GMT
The fact that Unbowed, Unbent, Unbroken was even nominated is hilarious because it was probably the weakest episode of the season. Lena definitely deserves the nomination and could win, but what episodes are Emilia and Peter even submitting? I think Peter was great this season and Emilia has improved, but being nominated instead of Kit, Sophie, Stephen, Iain, Alfie, and Maisie. Hm. I guess it's more of choose an actor to represent your show instead of focusing on the performances. In fairness it wasn't nominated for "best episode" (not that such an award exists, mind you) it was for best direction, which there was a lot of in the ep. I think that the WF ending in 506 as an isolated sequence was probably the best directing of the season actually. I've not been able to convince you yet that 506 is a better episode than 501 and 502 (though there's plenty of time between now and ep. 601 for me to try at that ) but other than the Snakes fight it was very tightly-directed.
In unfairness (to coin a phrase) it's probable that Podeswa and Nutter were nominated over Sapochnik because they're more established names in TV than he is, which is something that the Emmys seem to like rewarding people for. I have to say though, that I don't mind that particularly in this instance because I think that, although 507 and 508 were very strong episodes helmed by Sapochnik, and Nutter and Podeswa each had an episode apiece that ended up weaker than both 507 and 508 (509 and 506 respectively)...I still think that overall Nutter and Podeswa had more standout moments directorially in s5 than Sapochnik did. That's not to say that I don't think the Hardhome sequence was great (though I do prefer 510 to 508) because it plainly was, but I felt there were higher points in Nutter and Podeswa's eps. that were handled better.
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Still, I'm sure 508 will rake more awards than any ep. because of the technical side of things. And I'm sure Sapochnik will get a director's nod next year because he's doing 609 and 610. So it'll all even out in the end.
As for Podeswa, I agree that the direction of Sansa and Ramsay's wedding and The Hall of Faces in 506 was very well done. However, was that stronger than the material in other episodes? It would be hard to convince me if you look at the episode as a whole because it was weak compared to the others, mostly in writing so I guess it wouldn't have to do much with this category, but I just expected 508 or even 505 to be picked in directing. However, Podeswa is returning for Season 6 so I guess it evens out. |
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Post by Admin on Jul 17, 2015 4:18:13 GMT
I don't care about technical categories, i mean the writing, directing and acting ones are such a joke Not just with GoT - I cannot believe Ellie Kemper didn't get nominated. I'm not fond of TUKS and she is 99% of the reason why, so I can't say her snub is too devastating for me personally I'm more floored at Jim Parsons, but he's already won four times, so. I think Ellie was the show, in biggest part, so it's odd to see so many nominations and her not being in  |
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Post by Admin on Jul 17, 2015 4:19:20 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2015 4:20:37 GMT
Pedro's not helping? I think they broke up some time last year. So if he is the dad then, yeah, I guess he's out of the picture. |
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Post by boojam on Jul 17, 2015 12:07:50 GMT
I think the Emmys have a worse problem than the Oscars, excluding the 'technical' categories , there are, seem to be, more actors and episodes to judge than anyone would have time to view! I figure academy members just go on name recognition and don't even watch performances or the episodes.
I know I am familiar with the names of the shows, not all the actors nominated , but have only watched maybe one other show than GoT. I don't really have time or interest. I will watch a show episode and judge it to be very good but then not watch the show.
I don't get my expectations undercut , nor am surprised, by most films and other visual drama I see these days.
Crossed some kind of fun fatigue threshold along my world line.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2015 12:15:40 GMT
I just looked at the entire list, and I'm surprised by myself, because I think I would give the Emmy for Outstanding Drama to Game of Thrones this year. Season 5 was not the best GoT season (and not the worst either), but out of all the nominees, it had the best season this year.
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Post by boojam on Jul 17, 2015 13:07:34 GMT
I just looked at the entire list, and I'm surprised by myself, because I think I would give the Emmy for Outstanding Drama to Game of Thrones this year. Season 5 was not the best GoT season (and not the worst either), but out of all the nominees, it had the best season this year. Someone said that at its worse GoT is better than 90% of all other TV dramas. Not sure about that , but would say it's more interesting than about 90% of other TV dramas. |
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Post by day dreamer on Jul 17, 2015 16:26:13 GMT
I still think Mad Men might get a good send off and win everything this year, but it's hard to tell.
Emmys are weird.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2015 16:34:41 GMT
I think the Emmys have changed their voting system this year. Before winners were decided by assigning each category a relatively small pool of voters (I think at most 100?) And this year they're doing the "everyone votes in every category" thing so the winners are likely to be more populous and less WTF as they sometimes tend to be.
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Not just with GoT - I cannot believe Ellie Kemper didn't get nominated.
) but other than the Snakes fight it was very tightly-directed.
