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Post by King Tommen on May 27, 2015 15:26:02 GMT
Everytime they air on Memorial Day weekend, the ratings drop significantly. That's why they usually skip it.
Blackwater in S2 got killed in the ratings because of this.
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Post by Deleted on May 27, 2015 15:28:24 GMT
How much can be credited to the Sansa scene? Nill. The impact controversy tends to have on ratings (at least immediately) is positive. If 506 hadn't ended the way that it had, the ratings would probably have been a little lower.
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Post by King Tommen on May 27, 2015 15:32:18 GMT
It should also be reiterated that HBO doesn't really give two shits about the sameday ratings. There are no advertisers to satisfy like with broadcast networks. They always look at overall viewership so the Live+7 numbers and the total season viewership is the trend they're most interested in. They'll probably release something on that in the near future.
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Post by Deleted on May 27, 2015 16:11:03 GMT
I never understood the obsession with ratings to be honest. As King Tommen says, it doesn't affect HBO as a business and is no indication the show is 'dying' to the viewer-base anyways. I remember people doing this with The Walking Dead too and it's just laughable. I mean seriously, these are the biggest hits on primetime television and ratings don't mean anything at all - it's the media and fan hype that carry these shows and it's still huge for GoT across the board. They are making a killing off of this show even with it being the top pirated show of all times. All that shows is just how popular it really is. We all rated this episode the highest (9 and 10 overall) so who cares what anyone else thinks anyways.
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Post by Deleted on May 27, 2015 16:16:42 GMT
I never understood the obsession with ratings to be honest. As King Tommen says, it doesn't affect HBO as a business and is no indication the show is 'dying' to the viewer-base anyways. I remember people doing this with The Walking Dead too and it's just laughable. I mean seriously, these are the biggest hits on primetime television and ratings don't mean anything at all - it's the media and fan hype that carry these shows and it's still huge for GoT across the board. They are making a killing off of this show even with it being the top pirated show of all times. All that shows is just how popular it really is. We all rated this episode the highest (9 and 10 overall) so who cares what anyone else thinks anyways. Ratings are important, though. They just mean different things for different networks. E.g. with HBO (I have no idea how things are at AMC for shows like the Walking Dead, I'm not American), good ratings justify the budget because it's pulling in or keeping subscribers. For the standard networks, they're not interested in raw viewing figures so much as they are the demo, which is what interests the advertisers/influences how much money networks make when airing that show. If the ratings sink, then the budget is at risk of being cut (maybe not for season 6 since most of the pre-production should be well underway now, including all the monetary stuff). Luckily, like KT said, because HBO doesn't have to keep advertisers happy, first run viewership doesn't really matter all that much, it's the long-term that counts.
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Post by Deleted on May 27, 2015 16:28:04 GMT
I never understood the obsession with ratings to be honest. As King Tommen says, it doesn't affect HBO as a business and is no indication the show is 'dying' to the viewer-base anyways. I remember people doing this with The Walking Dead too and it's just laughable. I mean seriously, these are the biggest hits on primetime television and ratings don't mean anything at all - it's the media and fan hype that carry these shows and it's still huge for GoT across the board. They are making a killing off of this show even with it being the top pirated show of all times. All that shows is just how popular it really is. We all rated this episode the highest (9 and 10 overall) so who cares what anyone else thinks anyways. Ratings are important, though. They just mean different things for different networks. E.g. with HBO (I have no idea how things are at AMC for shows like the Walking Dead, I'm not American), good ratings justify the budget because it's pulling in or keeping subscribers. For the standard networks, they're not interested in raw viewing figures so much as they are the demo, which is what interests the advertisers/influences how much money networks make when airing that show. If the ratings sink, then the budget is at risk of being cut (maybe not for season 6 since most of the pre-production should be well underway now, including all the monetary stuff). Luckily, like KT said, because HBO doesn't have to keep advertisers happy, first run viewership doesn't really matter all that much, it's the long-term that counts. I suppose if there's a trend over an entire season that could be a risk and I do understand it affects budgeting for future seasons. I'm glad, as you said, next season is already a done deal in that regards! This was a tough season to do IMO because of the source material being split and rejoined. It was tough to read and received criticism for that split so it stands to reason they are struggling a bit with it for the show especially with little new source material to go on. I also have to suspect some viewers are dropping it as it moves away from the books by necessity since we don't have a book in our hands yet. I've heard many say they won't watch past where the books end so if they're serious, there will be some viewer dropping by end of this season. I just don't believe most of them will stick to it and will come crawling back by next season.
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Post by freypies on May 27, 2015 17:00:40 GMT
Yeah, I'm not too surprised about the drop. It seems like nobody was watching anything this weekend. The US Memorial weekend box-office was the lowest it has been since 2001.
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Post by Deleted on May 27, 2015 21:45:32 GMT
Anyone have a good gif of Dany and Tyrion meeting?
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Post by Deleted on May 27, 2015 21:48:50 GMT
Anyone have a good gif of Dany and Tyrion meeting? Or
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Post by Deleted on May 27, 2015 21:52:07 GMT
Anyone have a good gif of Dany and Tyrion meeting? Or Thanks!
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Post by sj4iy on May 27, 2015 23:31:29 GMT
It should also be reiterated that HBO doesn't really give two shits about the sameday ratings. There are no advertisers to satisfy like with broadcast networks. They always look at overall viewership so the Live+7 numbers and the total season viewership is the trend they're most interested in. They'll probably release something on that in the near future. This. They care about: 1. Subscription numbers 2. Press that leads to more subscription numbers. We just got rid of cable this past week, actually, and now we are using HBO Now. I'm not saying that that is the reason for the drop, but the point is...there's more than one way to watch tv these days. Same-day ratings are an incredibly outdated concept, especially for a pay-service like HBO.
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Post by sj4iy on May 27, 2015 23:34:59 GMT
I never understood the obsession with ratings to be honest. As King Tommen says, it doesn't affect HBO as a business and is no indication the show is 'dying' to the viewer-base anyways. I remember people doing this with The Walking Dead too and it's just laughable. I mean seriously, these are the biggest hits on primetime television and ratings don't mean anything at all - it's the media and fan hype that carry these shows and it's still huge for GoT across the board. They are making a killing off of this show even with it being the top pirated show of all times. All that shows is just how popular it really is. We all rated this episode the highest (9 and 10 overall) so who cares what anyone else thinks anyways. Ratings are important, though. They just mean different things for different networks. E.g. with HBO (I have no idea how things are at AMC for shows like the Walking Dead, I'm not American), good ratings justify the budget because it's pulling in or keeping subscribers. For the standard networks, they're not interested in raw viewing figures so much as they are the demo, which is what interests the advertisers/influences how much money networks make when airing that show. If the ratings sink, then the budget is at risk of being cut (maybe not for season 6 since most of the pre-production should be well underway now, including all the monetary stuff). Luckily, like KT said, because HBO doesn't have to keep advertisers happy, first run viewership doesn't really matter all that much, it's the long-term that counts. Same day ratings don't mean crap anymore, though. And HBO hasn't released their overall numbers, so we don't know how many people are truly watching. We do know that the piracy numbers are higher than ever, though. And of course, the US isn't the only country that matters to GoT. So even if the US same-day numbers are down, that doesn't mean HBO has lost any money on the show.
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Post by Deleted on May 27, 2015 23:38:01 GMT
Ratings are important, though. They just mean different things for different networks. E.g. with HBO (I have no idea how things are at AMC for shows like the Walking Dead, I'm not American), good ratings justify the budget because it's pulling in or keeping subscribers. For the standard networks, they're not interested in raw viewing figures so much as they are the demo, which is what interests the advertisers/influences how much money networks make when airing that show. If the ratings sink, then the budget is at risk of being cut (maybe not for season 6 since most of the pre-production should be well underway now, including all the monetary stuff). Luckily, like KT said, because HBO doesn't have to keep advertisers happy, first run viewership doesn't really matter all that much, it's the long-term that counts. Same day ratings don't mean crap anymore, though. And HBO hasn't released their overall numbers, so we don't know how many people are truly watching. We do know that the piracy numbers are higher than ever, though. And of course, the US isn't the only country that matters to GoT. So even if the US same-day numbers are down, that doesn't mean HBO has lost any money on the show. I know My post wasn't limited to overnights. At least not deliberately
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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2015 14:21:57 GMT
I can now see Kevin coming back to KL to help Tommen now that Cersei is in prison. W Would he be able to get to KL quickly enough? I mean that's too fast even for jetpack travel.As for Sansa, I love how much she's showing her growth. She's trying all sorts of things to get herself out of this situation. I think there's definitely something bad brewing with Ramsey and his "new" sibling. Just as Roose said in the books, nothing worse than a young heir. I couldn't help but notice Sansa's reaction to Jon being LC of the Watch and made me wonder if the show will have her assume Alys Karstark's role. Anyone think she might flee on horse back to the Wall? I don't know if that would happen this season since Sophie says her finale will be ambiguous but I really felt as if they were setting that up. If Littlefinger can teleport so can Kevin, I say.
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Post by arthucus on May 28, 2015 18:46:30 GMT
With the time gap between episodes, Kevan could be back in KL some time in 508.
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Post by ottana on May 28, 2015 19:25:24 GMT
Finally got some time to watch the episode. I really liked it. I'm going to miss Aemon but I understand he had to go. Have to admire Peter Vaughan nailing the role while over 90 years old himself. I feared he might die before his character, luckily it didn't come to that. The scene with Gilly's baby was very touching and "Egg, I dreamed I was old" just brought me to tears. (Not least because that scene reminded me of my grandfather who was very close to me. I wonder when I finally stop seeing him in every lovable old man on screen or anywhere else.) Theon going straight to Ramsey was very disappointing and frustrating, guess that was the purpose. Glad to see that Sansa has not yet given up. I hope someday she finds some good use to that little tool she got. Kings landing was very good this time, I liked pretty much all the scenes though I’m not that impressed with Tommen. Jonathan Pryce is great, in the books I didn’t even pay much attention to the high sparrow. I still don’t like how they potray the faith militant in general though. I wish they would be concerned about the urgent social problems in the city instead of persecuting homosexuals and pushing down beer barrels. I also completely agreed with Olenna when she pointed out there are much worse crimes going unpunished. Anyway lots of good performances in KL. Along with Pryce, I think Headey and Dormer did very well. Even the sand snakes were better than before. The scene wasn’t great and I rolled my eyes to Tyene when she began to undress. However it was fun to see the other sand snakes reacting just like me. I wonder if Tyene really thought she’d make an ally from a sellsword by saving his life (and showing some skin) or did she just like Bronn too much to let him die? Anyway it didn’t bother me much, it was good to see the sand snakes being something else than just angry. And I really want someone to create a Bronn-musical. Everything in Essos was enjoyable too, especially the auction scene. I didn’t quite get why only Tyrion was chained before the pit fight (and where on earth did he get that file) but that’s a minor nitpick. The funny thing is that I first thought that little square was supposed to be the great pit of Daznak Then I did some googling.
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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2015 23:13:16 GMT
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Post by Admin on May 29, 2015 4:03:39 GMT
Just came here to post this Stannis pic
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2015 4:09:27 GMT
Just came here to post this Stannis pic I posted it more for Carice reasons but I knew you'd enjoy too, so there it is.
Is it too pervish of me btw to have wished for a 507 production still of Sansa in the dress she had on when she talked to Reek...I mean I know in the context of the scene it wasn't meant to be attractive per se...but well...I'll stop.
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2015 4:13:12 GMT
Just came here to post this Stannis pic I posted it more for Carice reasons but I knew you'd enjoy too, so there it is.
Is it too pervish of me btw to have wished for a 507 production still of Sansa in the dress she had on when she talked to Reek...I mean I know in the context of the scene it wasn't meant to be attractive per se...but well...I'll stop.
Yeah that's pretty gross, all things considered.
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