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Post by Deleted on May 19, 2015 8:22:24 GMT
So we'll definitely see this famous event happening at the end of this season. Might even be the last scene of the season.
Will we get the Pink Letter on the show? There has been a lot of speculation going on about Melisandre being the Pink Letter in "human form".
Who will stab Jon Snow? Alliser, Olly and Edd??
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Post by Admin on May 19, 2015 9:20:04 GMT
I am so confused by everything. I don't think we are getting Pink Letter, at least I hope not, I'm so emotionally fragile already Just tell me what happens so I can either be happy or voluntarily commit myself to mental institution. If it is the last scene, I hope they add something shocking for book readers. Something new. Give us the season with badass ending at least, it's been 2 years since last one.
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Post by Deleted on May 19, 2015 11:07:53 GMT
I think next episode (The Gift) Boltons will send a message to Jon about Sansa's and Ramsay's marriage. He won't like it, but goes to Hardhome. After the Hardhome trip there is altered show version of Pink Letter. Jon decides to kill Ramsay for threatening to flay him, but there is the mutiny. Olly, Yarwyck and Thorne are the guys stabbing him. Olly is the one saying "It wasn't me!" with Yarwyck and Alliser stabbing after him.
Or the mutiny is about Jon failing in Hardhome helping wildlings and losing so many brothers than the Pink Letter.
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Post by Deleted on May 19, 2015 12:00:16 GMT
Maybe Jon gets stabbed while leaving to rescue Sansa?
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Post by Father of Dragons on May 19, 2015 12:31:38 GMT
I don't think Thorne or Edd will stab Jon. Thorne is a man of the watch, and as much as he hates Jon, he wouldn't turn his back on its leader, because he knows it would split the watch in two. Edd is Jon's friend above all, even if Grenn and Pyp are dead. Olly (ugh) is a given.
By the way, Daniel Portman (Pod) said on Thronecast (offscreen) than episode 10 would "break the Internet"? Does that suggest more than just FTW (and the Walk) is happening?
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Post by Deleted on May 19, 2015 12:35:56 GMT
I don't think Thorne or Edd will stab Jon. Thorne is a man of the watch, and as much as he hates Jon, he wouldn't turn his back on its leader, because he knows it would split the watch in two. Edd is Jon's friend above all, even if Grenn and Pyp are dead. Olly (ugh) is a given. By the way, Daniel Portman (Pod) said on Thronecast (offscreen) than episode 10 would "break the Internet"? Does that suggest more than just FTW (and the Walk) is happening? But then it's just Yarwyck and Olly. Yarwyck is just a background NW officer, while Olly is that annoying little twat.
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Post by Deleted on May 19, 2015 12:39:05 GMT
Edd's speech about not forgiving what the wildlings have done alarmed me a bit. He could be the one stabbing and crying. Alliser could still kill Jon, if he sees that it's the only way to save the Night's Watch or something like that.
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Post by Deleted on May 19, 2015 12:42:37 GMT
I'm not sure we get any version of the Pink Letter, with Jon going to Hardhome and failing, loosing brothers and such it would be enough to do FTW.
So, do you guys think this will be the last scene?
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Post by Father of Dragons on May 19, 2015 12:44:07 GMT
Honestly, I can't see anyone stabbing Jon for helping the wildlings. If they were going to, they would have done it before he left. My best guess is that Jon learns of Sanss's wedding (from Melisandre?) when he gets back, then immediately announces he's going to ride South to save her and defeat the Boltons (depends on Stannis' fate). This will be the catalyst for FTW rather than the wildlings.
But I swear if Olly cries and says "For the Watch" I will lose my shit because he's not doing it for the watch he's doing it for himself. There's still 2-3 episodes to develop Bowen Marsh as (more of) an antagonist to Jon's methods - maybe he goes with Jon to Hardhome?
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Post by Deleted on May 19, 2015 12:47:52 GMT
Honestly, I can't see anyone stabbing Jon for helping the wildlings. If they were going to, they would have done it before he left. My best guess is that Jon learns of Sanss's wedding (from Melisandre?) when he gets back, then immediately announces he's going to ride South to save her and defeat the Boltons (depends on Stannis' fate). This will be the catalyst for FTW rather than the wildlings. But I swear if Olly cries and says "For the Watch" I will lose my shit because he's not doing it for the watch he's doing it for himself. There's still 2-3 episodes to develop Bowen Marsh as (more of) an antagonist to Jon's methods - maybe he goes with Jon to Hardhome? It must be because Ramsay threatens him. Not just because the wedding.
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Post by Father of Dragons on May 19, 2015 12:48:59 GMT
Honestly, I can't see anyone stabbing Jon for helping the wildlings. If they were going to, they would have done it before he left. My best guess is that Jon learns of Sanss's wedding (from Melisandre?) when he gets back, then immediately announces he's going to ride South to save her and defeat the Boltons (depends on Stannis' fate). This will be the catalyst for FTW rather than the wildlings. But I swear if Olly cries and says "For the Watch" I will lose my shit because he's not doing it for the watch he's doing it for himself. There's still 2-3 episodes to develop Bowen Marsh as (more of) an antagonist to Jon's methods - maybe he goes with Jon to Hardhome? It must be because Ramsay threatens him. Not just because the wedding. Yeah I suppose, seeing as how Ramsay doesn't have the reputation he has in the books
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Post by Deleted on May 19, 2015 12:49:46 GMT
Honestly, I can't see anyone stabbing Jon for helping the wildlings. If they were going to, they would have done it before he left. My best guess is that Jon learns of Sanss's wedding (from Melisandre?) when he gets back, then immediately announces he's going to ride South to save her and defeat the Boltons (depends on Stannis' fate). This will be the catalyst for FTW rather than the wildlings.But I swear if Olly cries and says "For the Watch" I will lose my shit because he's not doing it for the watch he's doing it for himself. There's still 2-3 episodes to develop Bowen Marsh as (more of) an antagonist to Jon's methods - maybe he goes with Jon to Hardhome? Maybe. Having him go to Hardhome to a mission most NW didn't agree on and then have him go South would be bad and something the more resentful brother's wouldn't be able to tolerate. Either way, we are definitely getting it. Although I'm not sure if they'll leave it for the last scene.
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Post by Father of Dragons on May 19, 2015 13:01:10 GMT
Honestly, I can't see anyone stabbing Jon for helping the wildlings. If they were going to, they would have done it before he left. My best guess is that Jon learns of Sanss's wedding (from Melisandre?) when he gets back, then immediately announces he's going to ride South to save her and defeat the Boltons (depends on Stannis' fate). This will be the catalyst for FTW rather than the wildlings.But I swear if Olly cries and says "For the Watch" I will lose my shit because he's not doing it for the watch he's doing it for himself. There's still 2-3 episodes to develop Bowen Marsh as (more of) an antagonist to Jon's methods - maybe he goes with Jon to Hardhome? Maybe. Having him go to Hardhome to a mission most NW didn't agree on and then have him go South would be bad and something the more resentful brother's wouldn't be able to tolerate. Either way, we are definitely getting it. Although I'm not sure if they'll leave it for the last scene. There are quite a few contenders for last scene: FTW, Daenerys in the Dothraki Sea, and (to a lesser extent) Varys murdering Pycelle and someone else, maybe not Kevan. I think that Daenerys could be the second last scene, because I don't know how they could outdo the shock effect of that. Sure, killing Tywin and Shae is one thing, but Jon is something quite different
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Post by Admin on May 20, 2015 5:44:27 GMT
Daniel Portman told Throne Cast in the UK that episode ten will break the Internet, do you think he was referring to FTW?
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Post by Deleted on May 20, 2015 8:55:18 GMT
Daniel Portman told Throne Cast in the UK that episode ten will break the Internet, do you think he was referring to FTW? Must be! Either that or the fates of Jon, Arya and Sansa are all left as cliffhangers and then I will spend the next year stressing about the two I actually care about
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Post by Deleted on May 20, 2015 8:55:43 GMT
Daniel Portman told Throne Cast in the UK that episode ten will break the Internet, do you think he was referring to FTW? OR OR OR.......
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Post by Admin on May 20, 2015 9:05:33 GMT
Daniel Portman told Throne Cast in the UK that episode ten will break the Internet, do you think he was referring to FTW? OR OR OR....... Well what we know is that the last scene is in the published books, according to the showrunners. Do the scripts that include the last scene go to all castmembers or just the ones who are in the scene? Would FTW really be this shocking? considering that the moment it happens those who will go online will find out most people assume Jon is not really dead Doesn't the she is not in, but we are not stating it outright attitude make the possible LS shocking, even for book readers, since they lost hope? But Daniel is probably just hyping the scene, Sophie-style.
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Post by Deleted on May 20, 2015 9:12:52 GMT
Well what we know is that the last scene is in the published books, according to the showrunners. Do the scripts that include the last scene go to all castmembers or just the ones who are in the scene? Would FTW really be this shocking? considering that the moment it happens those who will go online will find out most people assume Jon is not really dead Doesn't the she is not in, but we are not stating it outright attitude make the possible LS shocking, even for book readers, since they lost hope? But Daniel is probably just hyping the scene, Sophie-style. I could be wrong here, but I think the cast members only receive scripts for the episodes they're going to be in, with probably the exception of the main cast who probably get all the scripts. So if Daniel Portman knows what happens he's had the script? Unless Gwen told him on set or something. Basically what I'm trying to say is he might survive to see the finale afterall
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Post by Admin on May 20, 2015 9:22:20 GMT
Or he witnesses Brienne kill Stannis... I'm so afraid. I'm so afraid
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Post by Deleted on May 20, 2015 9:28:53 GMT
Or he witnesses Brienne kill Stannis... I'm so afraid. I'm so afraid I'm 99% sure that won't happen Mannis has to kill some Bolton!
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