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Post by Basil on Jun 15, 2015 13:29:54 GMT
After tonight, I'm off the LSH campaign. The only resurrection we need in the show is Jon. I wonder, are people going to hate UnJon the same way they hate UnCat? Will they also start calling him a silly and useless zombie and Martin's biggest mistake? Sorry, I'm just being bitter again. |
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Post by valyrianshadow on Jun 15, 2015 13:35:09 GMT
After tonight, I'm off the LSH campaign. The only resurrection we need in the show is Jon. I wonder, are people going to hate UnJon the same way they hate UnCat? Will they also start calling him a silly und useless zombie and Martin's biggest mistake? Sorry, I'm being bitter again. In addition I am wondering what UnGregor does that makes him so important that anything UnCat does just simply pales in comparison. The wonder! |
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Post by King Tommen on Jun 15, 2015 13:37:55 GMT
If Jon was a wordless vengeance zombie, then yeah, you'd probably get a lot of that reaction from the fanbase. Thankfully, I don't think that's what's going to happen there.
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Post by mattpeto on Jun 15, 2015 13:48:54 GMT
The grass is way too green and lush. The other two times we saw Moat Caillin it was grey and misty around there. And that was before the big snowfall. That's definitely somewhere in Essos y'all. Mark my words.  @konradsmith |
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Post by dany4eva on Jun 15, 2015 15:30:49 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jun 15, 2015 15:36:17 GMT
Imagine a show where characters like LSH were handled well? Imagine a show where she actually happened?
Well here Mothers Mercy...
I seriously think D&D get some sort of sexual pleasure out of this.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 15, 2015 16:27:58 GMT
After tonight, I'm off the LSH campaign. The only resurrection we need in the show is Jon. I wonder, are people going to hate UnJon the same way they hate UnCat? Will they also start calling him a silly and useless zombie and Martin's biggest mistake? Sorry, I'm just being bitter again. Now that you ask, I think that resurrecting Jon would be a bad plot twist. I'd rather have him stay dead. But instead of being a wordless "zombie", Jon can speak and do stuff. I'm sorry LSH fans, sadly another hypetrain has crashed. |
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Post by breakfest on Jun 15, 2015 16:28:10 GMT
The grass is way too green and lush. The other two times we saw Moat Caillin it was grey and misty around there. And that was before the big snowfall. That's definitely somewhere in Essos y'all. Mark my words. @konradsmith Haha yeah, fair play. I was convinced it was Moat Cailin. Only thing in my defense is that 'North of Meereen' was obviously Northern Ireland too but that's no real defense! |
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Post by Enid on Jun 15, 2015 16:59:30 GMT
I don't remember where I read it, but D&D said that they never confirm if something is cut or not because most of the time they aren't sure themselves. That sometimes they think they won't be able to have something from the books and then, while they are writing the season, they get a chance to include it. So I wouldn't say that LSH is definitely cut, although is true that every year becomes harder and harder to include her, and my instinct says is better to assume she won't be in the show.
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Post by King Tommen on Jun 15, 2015 17:06:59 GMT
If you wanted to put together a case for introducing LSH in S6, here's where you would start:
1. Frey's will be dealt with and this is probably the season that happens
2. Septon Meribald is coming which means that Brienne will be making her way to the Riverlands-area. This could just be to re-introduce the Hound but geographically, she'll be in the vicinity.
3. Jaime is on his way back to KL with a dead daughter which should cause that rift between him and Cersei we've been waiting for. He probably won't be sticking around under those circumstances.
4. The Blackfish was explicitly kept alive on the show and the Brotherhood still exists. There is a very good chance we have not seen the last of them.
5. Pod is still alive and by Brienne's side which seems a little weird unless they needed him to still play a role in her story. He could have been killed off at multiple points in the last couple seasons.
I'm not saying it will happen, but there's your business case.
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Post by mattpeto on Jun 15, 2015 17:11:25 GMT
In truth, I feel like Jon's resurrection is a million times more important than LSH. And maybe that's why they kept this character out.
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Post by Enid on Jun 15, 2015 17:26:29 GMT
In truth, I feel like Jon's resurrection is a million times more important than LSH. And maybe that's why they kept this character out. Or you could argue that they want Jon's resurrection to be as shocking as possible, and that is why they haven't shown any main character brought back to live (aka Catelyn). A lot of people got the theory that Melisandre would resurrect Jon thanks to Thoros, Beric and LSH, it is possible that the show didn't want people to have that precedent to guess Jon's fate. |
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Post by Admin on Jun 15, 2015 18:19:30 GMT
If Jon was a wordless vengeance zombie, then yeah, you'd probably get a lot of that reaction from the fanbase. Thankfully, I don't think that's what's going to happen there. Who is a "wordless zombie" because Lady Stoneheart isn't one. Are you lost? Did you post in the wrong thread? Shall I make you a map? |
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Post by King Tommen on Jun 15, 2015 18:29:20 GMT
If Jon was a wordless vengeance zombie, then yeah, you'd probably get a lot of that reaction from the fanbase. Thankfully, I don't think that's what's going to happen there. Who is a "wordless zombie" because Lady Stoneheart isn't one. Are you lost? Did you post in the wrong thread? Shall I make you a map? Sorry, I meant "croaking" not "wordless". Geez, I made you a nice S6 LSH speculation post and everything. You can't win here sometimes. |
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Post by Admin on Jun 15, 2015 19:05:53 GMT
Who is a "wordless zombie" because Lady Stoneheart isn't one. Are you lost? Did you post in the wrong thread? Shall I make you a map? Sorry, I meant "croaking" not "wordless". Geez, I made you a nice S6 LSH speculation post and everything. You can't win here sometimes. Then maybe you should get out. |
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Post by day dreamer on Jun 15, 2015 23:57:18 GMT
The fact that they left out both the Lady AND the Manderlys just shows the viewers that the Freys and the Boltons have suffered no repercussions for the part they played in the Red Wedding. It's frustrating AF. Having LSH in there wouldn't cheapen Jon's coming back at all, IMO.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 16, 2015 5:35:33 GMT
The fact that they left out both the Lady AND the Manderlys just shows the viewers that the Freys and the Boltons have suffered no repercussions for the part they played in the Red Wedding. It's frustrating AF. Having LSH in there wouldn't cheapen Jon's coming back at all, IMO. But you may be sitting on the biggest clue of all. Leaving LSH, The Manderlys and all of the Frey stuff out could be entirely intentional not because they felt it was unimportant but because they are saving it all to lump together in season 6 first half? Maybe they are giving George some more time to flesh out parts they need for the second half of the season and TWOW plots to evolve more? I know a lot of people in this thread are abandoning the hype train and rightfully so - it's tough to hold out hope for so long especially when some people are very rude about their opinions of LSH (and really should stop saying the zombie thing - it's tired trope excuse). I abandoned hope for LSH last season and have spent this season enjoying and rooting for other things instead. But as crazy as it sounds, its still entirely possible they could bring her back in season 6. No, she won't be some mostly rotted thing or a zombie or whatever. She never was that and it's possible to explain it in a way that's vague but understandable, she has been around all this time - we just haven't heard about it yet. It's like how George made that awful decision to split up the POV and locations from AFFC to ADWD and never should have - maybe that's what they're doing with all the missing stuff? Just a thought here and mainly rambling but it could be as someone said - they didn't want too much of the ressurrection stuff shown or made a big deal of until after Jon's first ... to give it the most shock value and weight. They did show us Beric Dondarrion and many fans have forgotten all about it. They need to bring that back to the forefront if they are in fact going to bring LSH back. The BWB was such a great missed opportunity I have to wonder if they'll revisit it in S6 in which case the Lady could appear. |
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Post by Basil on Jun 17, 2015 16:50:24 GMT
Given that now it's really fucking unlikely (although still not entirely impossible) that she'll ever be part of the show, let's share awesome fanart of our favourite, undead Lady with the hateful glare, shall we?  I absolutely love these two: i.imgur.com/1NLuKO0.jpgi.imgur.com/51Qv0MT.jpgThey're not too extreme and don't make her look like a zombie from the Walking Dead or something, but they're still creepy as hell and so awesome. The second one in particular, it's exactly how they should have done LSH on the show, in my opinion. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 23, 2015 23:40:19 GMT
I'm still in mourning. This could have been the single most badass plot twist ever.   |
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