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Post by kingeomer on Jul 3, 2015 19:50:08 GMT
Id just like to point out that after GoT Emilia is such a bankable name that any movie she is in will automatically be successful. TG doesnt have to be successfull in any sense other than economic. A film with Arnie, Emilia and that is a Terminator movie will make its production value back just off of these factors alone. It really won't be that simple. There are countless stars of days gone by who were "destined" for great things only to simply fizzle out. Being such a huge part of GoT will not guarantee her, or anyone's, success. She will have to be savvy with her career choices if she wants to maintain her relevance. Emma Watson and Daniel Radcliffe aren't still relevant/popular just because of Harry Potter, it's because both have been smart with how they have managed their careers. They are probably the two people that the younger GoT cast are going to want to try and emulate the most. Lawgend and Kristen Stewart are both also good role models for smart career moves (and yes, I know Twilight is awful, but KStew is actually a very capable and acclaimed actress and her filmography is more diverse and exciting than most people her age and even older), although both had success with various indies before their big breakouts. So far, of the actors "discovered" by GoT (i.e. the young ones with no prior experience), Sophie appears to have made the smartest choices at the moment. Although that is entirely dependent on how she does in X-Men and how the movie does as a whole, but it's a good move on paper, so fingers crossed. I also think you're taking for granted that TG will make back its money. With the absolutely hideous reviews and gawdawful word of mouth, it will surely will not hold well at all, and will struggle even if it manages to open with decent numbers. I think TG makes it's money back on world wide box office. I'd be shocked if it didn't. In the US, it is looking likely it will finish behind Magic Mike XXL in this weekend's box office...and MM doesn't need to make a lot of money to make a profit-it cost 15 million to make versus TG's 170 million. MM will probably pay it for itself a few times over just after this weekend. The word of mouth and reviews might not give it legs in the box offices world wide but if it does well opening weekends everywhere, that just might be enough. Speaking of the likes of Emma Watson, Daniel Radcliffe and Kristen Stewart...all three of them came off of franchises that were huge successes and they've made a lot of money off of those franchises. Luckily for them, they have a bit of a name that they can get movies greenlighted and afford to take a small salary on smaller budget movies. They really have not opened a movie well yet but all three of them are building interesting resumes working with good people. I think one of the smartest moves any young actor has done was when Daniel Radcliffe started doing theater work with Equus and other productions...you could see in the Potter movies how his acting really improved after that. Daniel seems to chasing interesting roles in smaller movies rather than being a box office star. Emma just landed a role opposite of Tom Hanks in The Circle and she's playing Belle in Beauty and the Beast. Kristen Stewart seems to be embracing the interesting indie role route as well. Sophie is part of a huge ensemble in X Men...she is really going to have to be exceptional to stand out among the likes of Hugh Jackman, James Mc Avoy, Michael Fassbender, Jennifer Lawrence (who is not coming back for future X Men movies), Nicholas Hoult and others. But X Men is a great start for her. As for Emilia, given the fact that she has a host of other roles different from this one and GoT coming out proves to me that her career will be just fine no matter how TG does. |
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Post by Admin on Jul 3, 2015 20:53:28 GMT
I have my own theory on why the movie is flopping. Who the hell is Jai Courtney?! Remember Michael Biehn?  oh God  |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 3, 2015 21:00:47 GMT
Well, if it doing badly drives Alan Taylor back to GoT then maybe it was worthwhile.
It's funny though that Hollywood hasn't learned from the last two Die Hard sequels and the most recent Expendables movie; DON'T MAKE PG-13 SEQUELS TO PREVIOUSLY R-RATED ACTION FRANCHISES!!!!!!! This business of shooting an action film and deciding in post-production whether it'll be R-rated or PG-13 makes for inevitably shitty, watered-down product.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 3, 2015 21:04:53 GMT
I have my own theory on why the movie is flopping. Who the hell is Jai Courtney?! You're probably right here. Most of the reviews I've seen have targeted him most of all. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 3, 2015 21:11:32 GMT
I have my own theory on why the movie is flopping. Who the hell is Jai Courtney?! You're probably right here. Most of the reviews I've seen have targeted him most of all. I don't recall seeing him in anything myself (and if I have then that's a bad sign for him, isn't it?  ) but apparently he's Sam Worthington-esque in his blandness.
Still, from what I've heard he's fucking Emilia. So he's got that going for him at least.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 3, 2015 21:30:28 GMT
You're probably right here. Most of the reviews I've seen have targeted him most of all. I don't recall seeing him in anything myself (and if I have then that's a bad sign for him, isn't it? ) but apparently he's Sam Worthington-esque in his blandness.
Still, from what I've heard he's fucking Emilia. So he's got that going for him at least.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 3, 2015 21:37:33 GMT
It's funny how after Mel Gibson in the 80s, Russell Crowe in 90s and early 2000s and Eric Bana to some extent, Hollywood thinks that they can give leading roles in action films to any "ruggedly good-looking", up-and-coming Australian actor. Hence Sam Worthington and Jai Courtney. They've forgotten that the reason Mel Gibson, Russell Crowe and Eric Bana make/made good leading men is because they're CHARISMATIC. LISTEN HOLLYWOOD! SAM WORTHINGTON AND JAI COURTNEY ARE NOT CHARISMATIC!
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Post by Admin on Jul 3, 2015 21:53:12 GMT
You're probably right here. Most of the reviews I've seen have targeted him most of all. I don't recall seeing him in anything myself (and if I have then that's a bad sign for him, isn't it? ) but apparently he's Sam Worthington-esque in his blandness.
Still, from what I've heard he's fucking Emilia. So he's got that going for him at least.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 3, 2015 21:58:53 GMT
I don't recall seeing him in anything myself (and if I have then that's a bad sign for him, isn't it? ) but apparently he's Sam Worthington-esque in his blandness.
Still, from what I've heard he's fucking Emilia. So he's got that going for him at least.
Emilia is banging that Ken doll? Awful choice in men Yeah, she completely overlooked me and went for him. |
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Post by kingeomer on Jul 3, 2015 22:12:15 GMT
I don't recall seeing him in anything myself (and if I have then that's a bad sign for him, isn't it? ) but apparently he's Sam Worthington-esque in his blandness.
Still, from what I've heard he's fucking Emilia. So he's got that going for him at least.
Emilia is banging that Ken doll? Awful choice in men I don't get Hollywood's infatuation with Jai Courtney, he is so bland. They need a charismatic actor in the role of Kyle Reese, Jai isn't it. Emilia supposedly dated Richard Madden before season 1 debuted but when asked they both denied it. I have also seen the reviews targeting him as not a good choice for the role, Emilia is only fairing a little better review wise. But if I could take a magic wand and give Emilia the perfect boyfriend (if he wasn't married and very available)..I thought her and Jason Momoa had great chemistry, especially off screen. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 3, 2015 22:16:55 GMT
But if I could take a magic wand and give Emilia the perfect boyfriend (if he wasn't married and very available)..I thought her and Jason Momoa had great chemistry, especially off screen. Jason's a lucky bastard already. He's married to Lisa Bonet.  I should rewatch Angel Heart... |
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Post by Admin on Jul 3, 2015 23:43:23 GMT
But if I could take a magic wand and give Emilia the perfect boyfriend (if he wasn't married and very available)..I thought her and Jason Momoa had great chemistry, especially off screen. Jason's a lucky bastard already. He's married to Lisa Bonet. I should rewatch Angel Heart... One of the hottest movie's ever...back when Mickey's cock face wasn't ruined by whatever the fuck he was doing in last 20 years or so |
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Post by kingeomer on Jul 4, 2015 0:24:14 GMT
But if I could take a magic wand and give Emilia the perfect boyfriend (if he wasn't married and very available)..I thought her and Jason Momoa had great chemistry, especially off screen. Jason's a lucky bastard already. He's married to Lisa Bonet. I should rewatch Angel Heart... Yes, Jason is very lucky. She's gorgeous and she has great taste in men. Married to Jason and Lenny Kravitz is her ex. |
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Post by freeparking on Jul 4, 2015 1:38:17 GMT
Jason's a lucky bastard already. He's married to Lisa Bonet. I should rewatch Angel Heart... Yes, Jason is very lucky. She's gorgeous and she has great taste in men. Married to Jason and Lenny Kravitz is her ex. And in the show Dany married Drogo and then later Hizdar, who kinda looks like Kravitz. Mind blown. |
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Post by kingeomer on Jul 4, 2015 17:06:45 GMT
Deadline.com is estimating that Terminator will come at third for the weekend (behind Jurassic World and Inside Out) with a 27 million take, 42 million total from release July 1st-5th. Magic Mike is predicted for 4th but since it cost 15 million, making 25 plus for the weekend already makes it a success. Should their prediction hold, this will be the lowest grossing opening weekend for a Terminator film as Salvation grossed 60 + million in it's opening weekend. Granted this is just the US...not sure how the movie is faring in other parts of the world where it is released. Comments in the article indicate that TG is not going to be released in China, I don't know how true that is. link |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 4, 2015 17:14:26 GMT
That seems like a pretty disappointing opening weekend. I wonder how much they spent on marketing.
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Post by Admin on Jul 4, 2015 17:40:32 GMT
That seems like a pretty disappointing opening weekend. I wonder how much they spent on marketing. With commercials like this it must have been millions |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 4, 2015 17:45:15 GMT
I still can't believe that was thought up and then approved.  |
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Post by Basil on Jul 4, 2015 19:22:43 GMT
That seems like a pretty disappointing opening weekend. I wonder how much they spent on marketing. With commercials like this it must have been millions Wait, what?! This is an official teaser for the movie? Okay, that's truly fucking awful ... |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 4, 2015 20:31:19 GMT
With commercials like this it must have been millions Wait, what?! This is an official teaser for the movie? Okay, that's truly fucking awful ... unfortunately it is |
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) but apparently he's Sam Worthington-esque in his blandness.
I should rewatch Angel Heart...
