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Post by Deleted on Apr 23, 2015 8:02:37 GMT
I wonder why they weren't photoshopped out of the episode. Very weird
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Post by Deleted on Apr 23, 2015 8:20:18 GMT
I wonder why they weren't photoshopped out of the episode. Very weird Well, hopefully they will be for the DVD.
There were telephone wires in the woods by Craster's in ep. 404 and they weren't there on the DVD (as far as I could tell at least), so they do make SOME corrections it seems.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 23, 2015 8:21:43 GMT
For people who have seen 503, is it the best one so far? It was my favourite of the season so far but I think most people would say that 504 is instead. As alcasinoroyale says above though, it's definitely GoT's best ep. 3 ever, finally surpassing ep. 203 in that regard.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 23, 2015 8:36:01 GMT
I wonder why they weren't photoshopped out of the episode. Very weird Well, hopefully they will be for the DVD.
There were telephone wires in the woods by Craster's in ep. 404 and they weren't there on the DVD (as far as I could tell at least), so they do make SOME corrections it seems.
Let's hope so. Mistakes like these can be embarrassing.
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Post by Nezzer on Apr 23, 2015 8:42:41 GMT
For people who have seen 503, is it the best one so far? It was my favourite of the season so far but I think most people would say that 504 is instead. As alcasinoroyale says above though, it's definitely GoT's best ep. 3 ever, finally surpassing ep. 203 in that regard. Both episodes had great scenes. I'd put 503 above 504 because of Bolton scenes. Roose has never seemed this menacing before and his interaction with Littlefinger is amazing.
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Post by Admin on Apr 23, 2015 8:48:48 GMT
For people who have seen 503, is it the best one so far? Ep. 3 has the best scene of the season so far and while it also has Margaery I'd say it's slightly better than 5x04, if only for Jon executing Janos, Stannis and Jon scene and Tyrion and Varys + ending
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Post by Nezzer on Apr 23, 2015 8:53:38 GMT
For people who have seen 503, is it the best one so far? Ep. 3 has the best scene of the season so far and while it also has Margaery I'd say it's slightly better than 5x04, if only for Jon executing Janos, Stannis and Jon scene and Tyrion and Varys + ending You didn't like Margaery being bitchy? I really loved it! The Tyrells have been painted as good guys for too long. It's time for the rose to show its thorns :whip:
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Post by Deleted on Apr 23, 2015 9:17:11 GMT
It was my favourite of the season so far but I think most people would say that 504 is instead. As alcasinoroyale says above though, it's definitely GoT's best ep. 3 ever, finally surpassing ep. 203 in that regard. Both episodes had great scenes. I'd put 503 above 504 because of Bolton scenes. Roose has never seemed this menacing before and his interaction with Littlefinger is amazing. Yep. It's the best that Roose has ever been. Hence my avatar.
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Post by sj4iy on Apr 23, 2015 12:52:18 GMT
Eh, I disagree about Jon and Dany's storylines...without the book filler, they have plenty of interesting things coming in their storylines. I don't believe either one will have a 'slow burn' plot this year- this is definitely the big year for both of them. You're right - there's lots of great material for both of them - and I didn't mean to imply they weren't going to be focal points, only that their material is following the book fairly closely and expected. Some players get their plots messed with and others don't. I often wonder if that's because they don't want to touch the end-game characters for fear of messing the story up too much. GRRM has already said they have done a few changes they shouldn't have so we know there's going to be plot holes galore. I may be wrongly assuming they whiz past a lot of 'filler' in those stories. It's not about whether they 'should' or 'shouldn't have' made the changes they made, though. This aren't replicating the book, so there's no right or wrong way to adapt it. Changes have to be made because the book material is not always going to translate to television well. Martin was simply pointing out that characters the showrunners have cut, combined with others or killed off could be important in the books later on. But we don't know HOW important they will be, so it's difficult to judge just how different the story will be without them. And if they are very important, it's very likely that the showrunners will just give another more-important character their storyline. Just like we see with Ellaria taking on Arianne's vengeance plotline in Dorne. Just because a character is absent doesn't mean that their story will be.
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Post by sj4iy on Apr 23, 2015 12:56:04 GMT
Also, I loved episode 3. I'm not a stickler for staying close to the books, but it did have my favorite moment from the books in it, and done very well. I can't wait to see the reaction to it.
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Post by King Tommen on Apr 23, 2015 13:16:49 GMT
"I'd like to read the reply" is the frontrunner for my favourite line so far this season.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 23, 2015 18:12:47 GMT
You're right - there's lots of great material for both of them - and I didn't mean to imply they weren't going to be focal points, only that their material is following the book fairly closely and expected. Some players get their plots messed with and others don't. I often wonder if that's because they don't want to touch the end-game characters for fear of messing the story up too much. GRRM has already said they have done a few changes they shouldn't have so we know there's going to be plot holes galore. I may be wrongly assuming they whiz past a lot of 'filler' in those stories. It's not about whether they 'should' or 'shouldn't have' made the changes they made, though. This aren't replicating the book, so there's no right or wrong way to adapt it. Changes have to be made because the book material is not always going to translate to television well. Martin was simply pointing out that characters the showrunners have cut, combined with others or killed off could be important in the books later on. But we don't know HOW important they will be, so it's difficult to judge just how different the story will be without them. And if they are very important, it's very likely that the showrunners will just give another more-important character their storyline. Just like we see with Ellaria taking on Arianne's vengeance plotline in Dorne. Just because a character is absent doesn't mean that their story will be. You're restating the same thing I meant and maybe didn't word carefully enough. I never meant or implied George was warning them not to mess up character's portrayals just because that's not how he wrote them, but rather, that they shouldn't change some characters as much as they have for fear of painting themselves into a corner. As you said, without knowing the outcome of the story, it's anybody's guess if the show characters are going to end up the same or even close to the same place as their book counterparts. I honestly wouldn't want to be the show writers at this point. While yes they've had the privilege of knowing most end-game details from Mr. Martin himself, they can't possibly know everything because he's still writing it and actively changing things. This presents a real problem for the little details of things that will become a more convoluted puzzle to solve as the show passes the books.
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Post by breakfest on Apr 23, 2015 20:15:28 GMT
Also, I loved episode 3. I'm not a stickler for staying close to the books, but it did have my favorite moment from the books in it, and done very well. I can't wait to see the reaction to it. Which scene is that? Gahhh so much tempting info from screeners, the wait till monday morning is going to suck.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 23, 2015 20:25:12 GMT
Remember to spoiler tag any material from Ep. 3 and 4. Thanks.
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Post by King Tommen on Apr 23, 2015 20:26:01 GMT
Also, I loved episode 3. I'm not a stickler for staying close to the books, but it did have my favorite moment from the books in it, and done very well. I can't wait to see the reaction to it. Which scene is that? Gahhh so much tempting info from screeners, the wait till monday morning is going to suck. You're giving off some mixed signals here.
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Post by sj4iy on Apr 23, 2015 20:28:53 GMT
It's not about whether they 'should' or 'shouldn't have' made the changes they made, though. This aren't replicating the book, so there's no right or wrong way to adapt it. Changes have to be made because the book material is not always going to translate to television well. Martin was simply pointing out that characters the showrunners have cut, combined with others or killed off could be important in the books later on. But we don't know HOW important they will be, so it's difficult to judge just how different the story will be without them. And if they are very important, it's very likely that the showrunners will just give another more-important character their storyline. Just like we see with Ellaria taking on Arianne's vengeance plotline in Dorne. Just because a character is absent doesn't mean that their story will be. You're restating the same thing I meant and maybe didn't word carefully enough. I never meant or implied George was warning them not to mess up character's portrayals just because that's not how he wrote them, but rather, that they shouldn't change some characters as much as they have for fear of painting themselves into a corner. As you said, without knowing the outcome of the story, it's anybody's guess if the show characters are going to end up the same or even close to the same place as their book counterparts. I honestly wouldn't want to be the show writers at this point. While yes they've had the privilege of knowing most end-game details from Mr. Martin himself, they can't possibly know everything because he's still writing it and actively changing things. This presents a real problem for the little details of things that will become a more convoluted puzzle to solve as the show passes the books. Well, not quite what I was saying, actually. Basically, I'm saying that they can't paint themselves into a corner because they already know where the tv show story is headed. They don't have to match Martin's story or predict where it's going. They were given the outline by Martin, and they took it from there on what they were going to do with it...whether it ends up being close to or very different from Martin's intended outcome doesn't matter when it comes to whether it's good television or not. If they leave out a detail in the show that Martin decides to make important later...oh, well. That won't change whether the show was done well.
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Post by breakfest on Apr 23, 2015 20:47:05 GMT
Which scene is that? Gahhh so much tempting info from screeners, the wait till monday morning is going to suck. You're giving off some mixed signals here. The tempting info sustains me till then, having more is needed. Just so long as i don't get too much. In any case, if it's from the books i don't mind knowing in advance.
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Post by King Tommen on Apr 23, 2015 21:24:32 GMT
You're giving off some mixed signals here. The tempting info sustains me till then, having more is needed. Just so long as i don't get too much. In any case, if it's from the books i don't mind knowing in advance. In that case, the scene I believe that is being referenced here is: Slynt's execution. It is both fairly faithful to the book and very well done IMO
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Post by sj4iy on Apr 24, 2015 13:38:12 GMT
The tempting info sustains me till then, having more is needed. Just so long as i don't get too much. In any case, if it's from the books i don't mind knowing in advance. In that case, the scene I believe that is being referenced here is: Slynt's execution. It is both fairly faithful to the book and very well done IMO That's the one.
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Post by breakfest on Apr 24, 2015 22:31:29 GMT
Thank youuuuu.
Can't wait.
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