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Post by stoneheartsrevenge on May 4, 2018 13:53:35 GMT
okay so, that british blonde robot, was she actually a human being and they copied her DNA or was she fooling logan? DAYUM This episode i wasn't too much a fan of. There was a lot of cuts to different scenes, introducing the past was interesting for some background but also was a lot to process given there isn't clarity on the timelines I think she was a host. Robert asks Arnold if Delores is ready yet and Arnold says not. Robert then says “we’ll use the other girl then” who is presumably the one who speaks with Logan. Delores seeing her getting out of bed with Logan at the end is a sort of “could have been me” moment (though of course, Delores is not ‘woke’ enough to understand this yet). I loved the way ERW played the sense of wonder and astonishment at the sight of the real world. Edit; wonder if Logan is still alive I need the present day timeline. I guess we will find out this season.
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Post by TheMadQueen on May 4, 2018 15:19:39 GMT
apparently people on twitter think charlotte is logan's daughter. i have no idea why, but they do.
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Post by stoneheartsrevenge on May 8, 2018 13:49:45 GMT
Ramin Djawdi is a goddamn genius
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Post by TheMadQueen on May 9, 2018 4:39:14 GMT
I loved the cold open in that Indian world. Even tho I knew how it was gonna end, I still enjoyed getting there. Watching the tiger pounce on that lady was WHEW.
Wonder what Dolores needs to go to Sweetwater for.
The cliffhanger ending with the samurai running at Maeve was dope. I guess hosts from ShogunWorld have gotten into Westworld somehow. Based on the trailer for next week, it doesn’t seem like they’ll be following up with Maeve at all. Ugh.
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Post by kingeomer on May 9, 2018 12:07:43 GMT
Ramin Djawdi is a goddamn genius Yes he is. I loved the cold open in that Indian world. Even tho I knew how it was gonna end, I still enjoyed getting there. Watching the tiger pounce on that lady was WHEW. Wonder what Dolores needs to go to Sweetwater for. The cliffhanger ending with the samurai running at Maeve was dope. I guess hosts from ShogunWorld have gotten into Westworld somehow. Based on the trailer for next week, it doesn’t seem like they’ll be following up with Maeve at all. Ugh. Dolores is a BAMF. The ending was terrific. I also loved the cold open and then at the end when the Indians find her. Curious about Dolores's trip to Sweetwater. I've been waiting so long for Shogun world and it's going to suck if we don't follow up with Maeve.
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Post by Deleted on May 16, 2018 10:00:37 GMT
man that cold opening made me hot in the best way possible
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Post by stoneheartsrevenge on May 16, 2018 10:14:52 GMT
man that cold opening made me hot in the best way possible I was confused for a minute there but I guess you must be a week behind? I literally just finished this week’s and was sure there was no cold open You have me questioning the nature of my reality
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Post by kingeomer on May 16, 2018 11:57:28 GMT
This past week's episode has been the best episode of the series so far. 100/10 for sure. Just in case Bernard is glitchy and can't keep up with time. Elsie might not even be current day and could be in danger girl. Trying to keep some form of people alive forever and it's not working, yet. Though Ford might have figured it out.I still don't find Jimmi Simpson to Ed Harris believable.
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Post by stoneheartsrevenge on May 16, 2018 12:48:43 GMT
Elsie isn’t present day timeline, she is the immediate aftermath of Ford’s speech timeline. The present day is where Charlotte has just reunited with Bernard. I suspect we got a brief glimpse of this timeline when Bernard realised that he wasn’t really in the cave, he was just trying to remember. So present day Bernard is still piecing together what happened. I agree this seems ominous for Elsie. Glad they didn’t draw out the mystery of William’s daughter but happy they are making this new character relevant. Given how much control Ford has over this ‘game’ he is taking William through, I have to wonder if he deliberately caused the hosts to drive her towards William. The “mind” Bernard was sent to retrieve has to have been Ford right? Which would make the host we saw being constructed when he killed Theresa in season one...a Ford Host! It says a lot about how good this episode was that I didn’t notice until it was over that there’s was no Maeve or Delores
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Post by TheMadQueen on May 16, 2018 15:42:40 GMT
Ok so Delos is using Westworld to figure out how to clone people, basically. I’m shook.
Idk how I feel about William having a badass daughter, feels a little corny and I don’t think the actress is very good.
I wonder who else they’ve cloned.
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Post by stoneheartsrevenge on May 16, 2018 23:10:32 GMT
Ok so Delos is using Westworld to figure out how to clone people, basically. I’m shook. Idk how I feel about William having a badass daughter, feels a little corny and I don’t think the actress is very good. I wonder who else they’ve cloned. It’s not cloning. A clone would be an entirely new individual born ‘tabula rasa.’ What Delos are doing is seeking ‘eternal life’ by downloading the consciousness/mind of someone who is physically dead and transferring that to an empty host (ideally in the same physical appearance as the previous body). So the difference is, cloning is the physical and genetic copying, this is all to do with the mind and consciousness. We’ve barely seen Emily yet so I think it’s a bit early to make judgments about her being “badass.” She’s survived the host uprising but not through anything exceptional. She is presumably a regular to the park too, so she’d have experience of ‘dangerous’ situations anyway. Also see my speculation above, that Ford deliberately drove her towards William as part of the final game by getting the hosts to chase and/or carry her places. We see this is possible with Clementine and Bernard. And there is a shot in the trailer where Clementine seems to be leading the Delos folk somewhere too And the actress didn’t stand out but she wasn’t bad either, just average. But again only very brief scenes so far. ford is the most likely option. Again see my previous post
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Post by Singer of Death on May 17, 2018 22:35:00 GMT
I'm catching up to season 2 and it's shocking to see that the latest episode manages to suppress last season which is saying a lot.
It's interesting to see what's Emily is doing at Westworld. Is she finding her purpose at Westworld or is she there to fetch her dad? (which it's very doubtful considering how much she hated him).
With this talk of immortality, it makes me wonder whether Dolores and/or Bernand will become immortal. The season plays around with the timeline, with Dolores wanting to exterminate the humans, and Bernand just being Bernand, who knows what kind of plot twist this season gonna show.
Also, the Rajworld is a pleasant to see. Not very expecting that since there are plenty of other parks that serve the guests' desires (like Romanworld or Vikingworld).
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Post by stoneheartsrevenge on May 17, 2018 23:51:58 GMT
Delores and Bernard are hosts so they don’t need to ‘become’ immortal, they already are (barring non-natural deaths obviously). Emily quite clearly wasn’t in the park to fetch her Dad since she was in Rajworld and only ended up in Westworld because of the host uprising. Hence my speculation about Ford manipulating things to get her there. As for why she is in Rajworld, she is the granddaughter of James Delos, of course she visits the park. The timeline is much more straightforward this year. We have essentially three timelines. The past, which is always obvious because it’s the stuff with young William. The immediate aftermath of the uprising, which is Delores’ bloodthirsty campaign, Bernard and Elsie, Maeve, Hector and Armistice in Shogunworld. And the present, which is Bernard washing up on the beach, the drowned hosts, etc. We know Bernard and Stubbs are alive in the present timeline. William and his daughter are in timeline 2,the immediate aftermath. Rajworld is a throwback to Colonial superiority so I think it’s natural the super wealthy capitalist elite feel all nostalgic and enjoy it.
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Post by TheMadQueen on May 18, 2018 1:19:22 GMT
Also they really did not need to bring Elsie back. That actress needs to stick to sitcoms lol.
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Post by stoneheartsrevenge on May 18, 2018 9:51:17 GMT
Many people have opinions. But your opinion on Elsie is wrong, sorry. Been rooting for her and Stubbs to return
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Post by kingeomer on May 18, 2018 12:11:27 GMT
Elsie isn’t present day timeline, she is the immediate aftermath of Ford’s speech timeline. The present day is where Charlotte has just reunited with Bernard. I suspect we got a brief glimpse of this timeline when Bernard realised that he wasn’t really in the cave, he was just trying to remember. So present day Bernard is still piecing together what happened. I agree this seems ominous for Elsie. Glad they didn’t draw out the mystery of William’s daughter but happy they are making this new character relevant. Given how much control Ford has over this ‘game’ he is taking William through, I have to wonder if he deliberately caused the hosts to drive her towards William. The “mind” Bernard was sent to retrieve has to have been Ford right? Which would make the host we saw being constructed when he killed Theresa in season one...a Ford Host! It says a lot about how good this episode was that I didn’t notice until it was over that there’s was no Maeve or Delores
I am thinking the mind Bernard was sent to retrieve is definitely Ford. We know there is Ford consciousness in young boy Ford that I believe the Man in Black killed earlier this season. And in Lawrence's daughter. So there's more Ford consciousness out there. What Bernard got, I think, is total Ford consciousness and young boy Ford and Lawrence's daughter have some up to a point. I think Ford is setting up Emily vs. William-which is why the hosts have brought her to encounter her father. Also they really did not need to bring Elsie back. That actress needs to stick to sitcoms lol. Considering the Elsie's timeline is that not so distant past and we have not seen her in the present day time line (featuring Gustav Skarsgard, Bernard waking on the beach, the drowned hosts, etc.)...I am not 100% sure she's alive in present day time line. This episode also confirmed that Logan has died at some point before Jimmi Simpson became Ed Harris.
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Post by stoneheartsrevenge on May 18, 2018 13:45:17 GMT
Elsie isn’t present day timeline, she is the immediate aftermath of Ford’s speech timeline. The present day is where Charlotte has just reunited with Bernard. I suspect we got a brief glimpse of this timeline when Bernard realised that he wasn’t really in the cave, he was just trying to remember. So present day Bernard is still piecing together what happened. I agree this seems ominous for Elsie. Glad they didn’t draw out the mystery of William’s daughter but happy they are making this new character relevant. Given how much control Ford has over this ‘game’ he is taking William through, I have to wonder if he deliberately caused the hosts to drive her towards William. The “mind” Bernard was sent to retrieve has to have been Ford right? Which would make the host we saw being constructed when he killed Theresa in season one...a Ford Host! It says a lot about how good this episode was that I didn’t notice until it was over that there’s was no Maeve or Delores
I am thinking the mind Bernard was sent to retrieve is definitely Ford. We know there is Ford consciousness in young boy Ford that I believe the Man in Black killed earlier this season. And in Lawrence's daughter. So there's more Ford consciousness out there. What Bernard got, I think, is total Ford consciousness and young boy Ford and Lawrence's daughter have some up to a point. I think Ford is setting up Emily vs. William-which is why the hosts have brought her to encounter her father. Also they really did not need to bring Elsie back. That actress needs to stick to sitcoms lol. Considering the Elsie's timeline is that not so distant past and we have not seen her in the present day time line (featuring Gustav Skarsgard, Bernard waking on the beach, the drowned hosts, etc.)...I am not 100% sure she's alive in present day time line. This episode also confirmed that Logan has died at some point before Jimmi Simpson became Ed Harris. They technically left room for Logan to be alive. William says he overdosed but that doesn’t necessarily mean death. I mean, he probably died, but just the way William doesn’t then include Logan in the list of James’ loved ones that are dead “your wife, your daughter” leaves me wondering if they want him to appear again at some point.
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Post by TheMadQueen on May 18, 2018 14:18:06 GMT
Many people have opinions. But your opinion on Elsie is wrong, sorry. Been rooting for her and Stubbs to return
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Post by TheMadQueen on May 18, 2018 14:22:40 GMT
Elsie isn’t present day timeline, she is the immediate aftermath of Ford’s speech timeline. The present day is where Charlotte has just reunited with Bernard. I suspect we got a brief glimpse of this timeline when Bernard realised that he wasn’t really in the cave, he was just trying to remember. So present day Bernard is still piecing together what happened. I agree this seems ominous for Elsie. Glad they didn’t draw out the mystery of William’s daughter but happy they are making this new character relevant. Given how much control Ford has over this ‘game’ he is taking William through, I have to wonder if he deliberately caused the hosts to drive her towards William. The “mind” Bernard was sent to retrieve has to have been Ford right? Which would make the host we saw being constructed when he killed Theresa in season one...a Ford Host! It says a lot about how good this episode was that I didn’t notice until it was over that there’s was no Maeve or Delores
I am thinking the mind Bernard was sent to retrieve is definitely Ford. We know there is Ford consciousness in young boy Ford that I believe the Man in Black killed earlier this season. And in Lawrence's daughter. So there's more Ford consciousness out there. What Bernard got, I think, is total Ford consciousness and young boy Ford and Lawrence's daughter have some up to a point. I think Ford is setting up Emily vs. William-which is why the hosts have brought her to encounter her father. Also they really did not need to bring Elsie back. That actress needs to stick to sitcoms lol. Considering the Elsie's timeline is that not so distant past and we have not seen her in the present day time line (featuring Gustav Skarsgard, Bernard waking on the beach, the drowned hosts, etc.)...I am not 100% sure she's alive in present day time line. This episode also confirmed that Logan has died at some point before Jimmi Simpson became Ed Harris. Yeah I wonder where Elsie is in the present day. She could very well be dead. I wonder whose “brain” Bernard took from that lab when he killed everybody. My first guess is Ford, which would make me think he’s coming back, but I feel like they wouldn’t have been able to keep that a secret. Now, I didn’t follow filming like at all but I feel like that would have gotten out or something.
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Post by kingeomer on May 20, 2018 12:41:12 GMT
TheMadQueen, if they do get Hopkins back and managed to keep it a secret, kudos to them. I didn't follow filming at all as well, so I have no idea. stoneheartsrevenge, Good point about Logan. I missed that he wasn't included in the list of dead people.
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