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Post by Deleted on May 25, 2015 22:31:38 GMT
So, is this a neat little character beat or is it intended as subtle foreshadowing?
Cersei to Tywin: I will burn our house to the ground before I let that happen
Cersei to Jaime: I will burn their cities to the ground if they touch her
Cersei to Tommen: I would do anything for you. Anything to keep you from harm. I would burn cities to the ground.
Cersei tries to burn down King's Landing y/y?
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Post by Enid on May 25, 2015 23:20:04 GMT
Well, is a theory I've seen from time to time, based on Cersei torching the Hand's Tower in the books and all the wildfire Aerys put around King's Landing.
I'll say is possible, if all hope is lost Cersei seems like the kind of person who will ruin the city before her enemies take it from her. Maybe she will try, but I hope she doesn't succeed
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Post by Paid Debt Lannister on May 26, 2015 0:31:09 GMT
If that happens it will be epic. Imagine bald Cersei burning everything while Jaime tries to stop her, and they die together oh the romance.
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Post by janicia on May 26, 2015 15:19:37 GMT
Oh wow. Cersei trying to burn Kings Landing in front of Jaime would be a huge callback to Jaime and the Mad King. Yikes. I could really see that happening.
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Post by Deleted on May 29, 2015 1:36:14 GMT
If that happens it will be epic. Imagine bald Cersei burning everything while Jaime tries to stop her, and they die together oh the romance. I was just looking at some art work depictions of Cersei's walk of shame and totally forgot they shaved her hair off for the added humiliation. Do you think they will do that on the show in some dramatic fashion as well? I understand they're using a body double - hope it works! As for burning - I said this in the other thread but I think the fire/burning plot device (wild fire cache) works as a better dramatic tool for the show so they'll go for it I think. In the books she had a lot more political crap she pulled before her arrest they completely ditched such as the Stokesworths, the Kettlebacks, the fleet of warships, her spies (maids) on Margaery ... all of that was left out so to me they're going to want to play up something big on Cersei's part otherwise her entire mess that got her finally taken down is quite deflated, don't you think?
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Post by kingeomer on May 29, 2015 10:37:08 GMT
I'd be surprised if they don't go with some type of burning.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 18, 2015 6:50:38 GMT
Some things I think will happen in Season 6: -Cersei dining with Kevan and Tommen for the first time since her WoS -Kevan organizing a new small council -Randyll Tarly coming into play (Master of Laws is vacant) -Cersei choosing a trial by combat with Ser Robert Strong as her champion (Cleganebowl?) -Margaery choosing a trial by the faith, Loras's trial -Jaime returning to confront Cersei and Myrcella's funeral -Cersei declaring war on faith militant and Dorne -Cersei attempting to burn King's Landing -Varys killing Kevan and Pycelle to open way for Dany -Snow reaching the capital, Winter finally arriving
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Post by Deleted on Jun 18, 2015 6:53:41 GMT
We ought to remember that Varys will likely be in Meereen for a few eps. in s6. He seemed to wait until Jorah was gone to show himself to Tyrion (wisely), so I guess it's plausible that he'll leave again once Jorah and/or Dany return so as to avoid their wrath and I guess he could go back to KL then. But that would mean Kevan and Pycelle being alive in KL for quite a bit of s6.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 18, 2015 7:04:05 GMT
Yeah it really depends on when Dany sails for Westeros, but I imagine Varys will get there faster to prepare for her landing.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 18, 2015 7:09:59 GMT
I guess they could keep the Kevan, Pycelle and perhaps Olenna-ran Small Council going for the early s6 Faith-trials. Hopefully by the time that's all over with and the Faith's Champion (likely Lancel) is thoroughly Gregor'd, then Varys slips out of Meereen and makes his way to KL. I can't see Varys getting back there any earlier than the midseason though, even with abbreviated travel-times taken into account.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 18, 2015 9:15:49 GMT
CLEGANEBOWL!!! Jaime returning Cersei attempts to burn KL down Jaime kills her
I think Cleganebowl will be in episode 4 or 5 with Dany arriving in 6x06-6x07. Jaime killing her will propably be propably be in the finale.
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Post by janicia on Jun 18, 2015 16:29:08 GMT
My guess is that Varys stays in Dany's entourage and hires people to do things from afar.
I'm also assuming that Randall Tarly won't go to the capital, Olenna and Mace will project Tyrell power in Kings Landing.
I think Olenna will be named to the small council. And with Kevan in charge, I bet Tommen will start attending those meetings.
I think Jaime will stay in Kings Landing.
I think there will be conflict over whether to send troops against Dorne or to protect Oldtown. I think everything will keep getting worse for Lannisters in the capital, culminating in Cersei's decision to burn the city down.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 18, 2015 16:46:53 GMT
I guess they could keep the Kevan, Pycelle and perhaps Olenna-ran Small Council going for the early s6 Faith-trials. Hopefully by the time that's all over with and the Faith's Champion (likely Lancel) is thoroughly Gregor'd, then Varys slips out of Meereen and makes his way to KL. I can't see Varys getting back there any earlier than the midseason though, even with abbreviated travel-times taken into account. This is what I think will happen too. They need familiar faces and personalities to play off of during the rumble-period (trials) which I don't expect to happen in the first couple of episodes do you? There's SO much to wrap up from this season's finale, that would get lost in all the other drama so a small council meeting with the existing cast would help tie it all back together. Jaime's on his way there with bad news for Cersei (dead Myrcella) and Trystane as a hostage now so that's going to add a layer to King's Landing tension. Lancel getting Gregory'd for the trial is probably the first time I'd openly root for that monster haha. Varys going back to King's Landing from Meereen ... that's a toss up. I can't decide which would be better - staying in Meereen awhile to interact with Tyrion (good scenes) or going back to set things in motion at King's Landing. As suggested, a few episodes in Meereen then exit stage left to King's Landing would work with timing.
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Post by day dreamer on Jun 18, 2015 18:18:11 GMT
We ought to remember that Varys will likely be in Meereen for a few eps. in s6. He seemed to wait until Jorah was gone to show himself to Tyrion (wisely), so I guess it's plausible that he'll leave again once Jorah and/or Dany return so as to avoid their wrath and I guess he could go back to KL then. But that would mean Kevan and Pycelle being alive in KL for quite a bit of s6. I didn't even put two and two together that Varys didn't show himself to Tyrion after Jorah left. You're right, maybe Varys won't beef up Dany's small council after all. He could very well head back to KL.
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Post by Nezzer on Jun 18, 2015 18:25:47 GMT
Cleganebowl MUST happen or I'll be pissed.
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Post by lordcarson on Jun 18, 2015 18:35:50 GMT
Cleganebowl MUST happen or I'll be pissed. Haven't you heard? It's FUCKING CONFIRMED.
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Post by Nezzer on Jun 18, 2015 18:37:42 GMT
Cleganebowl MUST happen or I'll be pissed. Haven't you heard? It's FUCKING CONFIRMED. I know, I know, but it could be a roose. D&D have been destroying far too many hype trains lately
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Post by Deleted on Jun 18, 2015 21:03:16 GMT
I guess they could keep the Kevan, Pycelle and perhaps Olenna-ran Small Council going for the early s6 Faith-trials. Hopefully by the time that's all over with and the Faith's Champion (likely Lancel) is thoroughly Gregor'd, then Varys slips out of Meereen and makes his way to KL. I can't see Varys getting back there any earlier than the midseason though, even with abbreviated travel-times taken into account. Why would the faith choose Lancel as their champion when the Mountain has a clear advantage over him? Also since Lancel is Kevan's son, wouldn't they want to keep him alive?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 18, 2015 21:13:18 GMT
What do you guys think will happen to the Tyrells, especially Margaery and Loras?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 18, 2015 21:13:46 GMT
I guess they could keep the Kevan, Pycelle and perhaps Olenna-ran Small Council going for the early s6 Faith-trials. Hopefully by the time that's all over with and the Faith's Champion (likely Lancel) is thoroughly Gregor'd, then Varys slips out of Meereen and makes his way to KL. I can't see Varys getting back there any earlier than the midseason though, even with abbreviated travel-times taken into account. Why would the faith choose Lancel as their champion when the Mountain has a clear advantage over him? Also since Lancel is Kevan's son, wouldn't they want to keep him alive? Who else could they choose? It's not going to be the Hound (sorry Cleganebowl enthusiasts) and Lancel is the only named character other than the HS who has any association with the Faith. In any case, a trials by combat are decided by the gods (well, they people of Westeros think so at least) so I don't think the physical disadvantages would put them off selecting Lancel. They are driven by faith, and will fully believe that if Cersei is guilty, Lancel would prevail regardless.
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