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Post by Deleted on Jun 18, 2015 21:19:03 GMT
If they did justice to the Riverlands storyline, I would be eternally happy and thankful. But that will never happen. I really want my Tullies, dead Freys, BWB, LSH, Brienne meeting Jaime...
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Post by Deleted on Jun 18, 2015 21:35:20 GMT
If they did justice to the Riverlands storyline, I would be eternally happy and thankful. But that will never happen. I really want my Tullies, dead Freys, BWB, LSH, Brienne meeting Jaime... You might get some Tullies, yes. Probably dead Freys. Who knows if BWB will be in? LSH is probably cut and Brienne and Jaime should meet!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 18, 2015 22:39:19 GMT
If they did justice to the Riverlands storyline, I would be eternally happy and thankful. But that will never happen. I really want my Tullies, dead Freys, BWB, LSH, Brienne meeting Jaime... You might get some Tullies, yes. Probably dead Freys. Who knows if BWB will be in? LSH is probably cut and Brienne and Jaime should meet! Yeah, I know that. Quite frankly, the show HAS to address the Tullies, the Freys, the BWB and Brienne/Jaime, because those are open storylines on the show, too. But in the books this is all so intrinsically connected to LSH. So I'm afraid they'll practically do everything that is connected to LSH, except for LSH herself (by replacing her with someone else or simply just dropping her). Up until now, I have been quite disappointed with her exclusion, but it was always tolerable, because the show didn't address the storylines around her. That, however, will likely change in season 6 and then not having her in will seem very, very absurd. It will be like doing The Wall storyline without Jon, IMO.
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Post by kingeomer on Jun 18, 2015 22:53:27 GMT
I think the absence of LSH is going to make fans of the character unhappy, no matter what they do. At this point some other character on the show is probably going to fulfill her function in the Riverlands. Ideally LSH makes an appearance but I'll have to go with I'll believe it when I see it.
I can't see Brienne and Sansa making it South anytime soon, so even though some other characters can come and go on the Westeros Tardis, my belief is on the show it is easier to go South to North then North to South at this point. The two options I see are: Arya returns from Braavos and starts taking out Freys, deciding that she cannot be No One afterall. I said in the season 6 thread that if she wound up killing Walder Frey wearing Robb Stark's face, that would be pretty cool (and a nice way to work in a Richard Madden cameo). The Blackfish, being probably one of the few survivors of the Red Wedding-knows that his niece, great nephew and his wife and child were mercilessly slaughtered, his nephew is a prisoner and in show verse, Walder Frey holds Riverrun (per a conversation Brienne and Pod had in season 4) certainly gives him enough motivation to go after Freys especially with the help of the BwB.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 18, 2015 23:00:48 GMT
I think the absence of LSH is going to make fans of the character unhappy, no matter what they do. At this point some other character on the show is probably going to fulfill her function in the Riverlands. Ideally LSH makes an appearance but I'll have to go with I'll believe it when I see it. Yes, people will be unhappy no matter what. But I see a huge difference between on the one hand not having LSH in and not doing the Riverlands story anyway and on the other hand not having LSH in, but doing the Riverlands storyline regardless of that. With the former D&D could always say "well, we didn't include LSH, because we dropped the entire storyline". That would still suck, but it would be an explanation. With the latter, however, they wouldn't really have a good reason, because all the groundwork would be there: BWB, the Freys, Jaime/Brienne. In this case, they wouldn't include her simply because they don't like to bring back the dead. But even this explanation won't work if they bring back Jon via R'hllor as well.
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Post by day dreamer on Jun 19, 2015 1:24:07 GMT
But, but but...I wanted Lady Stoneheart to hang some people THEN be at peace with Ned in the Night Lands! OT: Your avatar breaks my heart. I hope Ned didn't see that fucking WF battle from Night Lands. Because if he did, he face palmed so hard he must have gone to another dimension of afterlife. I hope none of the Starks saw ANYTHING in WF this season from the Night Lands.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 19, 2015 3:02:17 GMT
I think it's likely that with Meribald back in the picture that we do get Brienne going back here. If she gets Sansa to the Last Hearth or "somewhere safe" as Jaime put it, I could see Sansa telling Brienne to find Arya which could bring Bri back down thereabouts.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 19, 2015 3:32:03 GMT
I think it's likely that with Meribald back in the picture that we do get Brienne going back here. If she gets Sansa to the Last Hearth or "somewhere safe" as Jaime put it, I could see Sansa telling Brienne to find Arya which could bring Bri back down thereabouts. This was in a previous prediction of mine as well and makes the most sense plot wise for Brienne to continue on the quest. Sansa is either going to send her after Arya or after Bran and Rickon, with Arya being a better choice since Brienne at least knows where she was last located (of course she's not there now). Davos may still be the one sent to look for Rickon but who will send him if he's at the wall? Jon better come back!
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Post by King Tommen on Jun 19, 2015 5:33:42 GMT
I think it's pretty much a given that Sansa's path is going to take her back to LF and that's probably going to be in the North since that's where the two of them are headed in the books.
LF has already stated his intention to ride the knights of the Vale to Winterfell to deal with whoever has survived the Bolton/Stannis clash. With Yohn Royce back in S6, it stands to reason he's going to be the face of the Vale forces that LF gathers.
I actually wouldn't be surprised if Brienne and Sansa don't end up meeting up in S6. They'll get Brienne to the Riverlands in order to meet up with Meribald and reintroduce the Hound (which is a bigger deal on the show given that Brienne actually has a history with the Hound). What that ends up leading to is a mystery at this point.
I also think that Jaime probably makes his way in the Riverlands area because I can't see he and Cersei being on any kind of good terms after he arrives back with her dead daughter in tow. He'll be banished, or he'll say "fuck it" and leave and that will get him back into the book path which links him up with Brienne.
We assume that the Frey's will be dealt with this season because David Bradley has been told that he'll be back but it's not 100% that this happens this season. However, it stands to reason that with Brienne and possibly Jaime in the vicinity, that the BwB and the Blackfish will pop up again. It should be pretty apparent once filming starts whether the Frey stuff will be included or not.
In terms of LSH, I'd say there's still a chance they could incorporate her in and there's just as good a chance that they don't bother.
I will say that whoever is speculating that Sansa somehow would be inserted in that slot is smoking some great crack as there has been zero indication that this would be a place they would go with her story. They've set her up to rule the North and to eventually be LF's undoing. Why would she be going off to hang Frey's with an outlaw group?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 19, 2015 8:56:40 GMT
I think it's pretty much a given that Sansa's path is going to take her back to LF and that's probably going to be in the North since that's where the two of them are headed in the books. LF has already stated his intention to ride the knights of the Vale to Winterfell to deal with whoever has survived the Bolton/Stannis clash. With Yohn Royce back in S6, it stands to reason he's going to be the face of the Vale forces that LF gathers. I actually wouldn't be surprised if Brienne and Sansa don't end up meeting up in S6. They'll get Brienne to the Riverlands in order to meet up with Meribald and reintroduce the Hound (which is a bigger deal on the show given that Brienne actually has a history with the Hound). What that ends up leading to is a mystery at this point. I also think that Jaime probably makes his way in the Riverlands area because I can't see he and Cersei being on any kind of good terms after he arrives back with her dead daughter in tow. He'll be banished, or he'll say "fuck it" and leave and that will get him back into the book path which links him up with Brienne. We assume that the Frey's will be dealt with this season because David Bradley has been told that he'll be back but it's not 100% that this happens this season. However, it stands to reason that with Brienne and possibly Jaime in the vicinity, that the BwB and the Blackfish will pop up again. It should be pretty apparent once filming starts whether the Frey stuff will be included or not. In terms of LSH, I'd say there's still a chance they could incorporate her in and there's just as good a chance that they don't bother. I will say that whoever is speculating that Sansa somehow would be inserted in that slot is smoking some great crack as there has been zero indication that this would be a place they would go with her story. They've set her up to rule the North and to eventually be LF's undoing. Why would she be going off to hang Frey's with an outlaw group? This.
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Post by kingeomer on Jun 19, 2015 10:54:41 GMT
I hope Ned didn't see that fucking WF battle from Night Lands. Because if he did, he face palmed so hard he must have gone to another dimension of afterlife. I hope none of the Starks saw ANYTHING in WF this season from the Night Lands. In the Night Lands Ned, Catelyn and Robb were all drinking and over everything that happened in WF this season. Or maybe that was me.
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Post by day dreamer on Jun 19, 2015 15:25:18 GMT
I hope none of the Starks saw ANYTHING in WF this season from the Night Lands. In the Night Lands Ned, Catelyn and Robb were all drinking and over everything that happened in WF this season. Or maybe that was me. I actually weirdly thought of Robb during Sansa's wedding night. Imagine him having to watch that happen and Theon witness it.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 19, 2015 15:27:04 GMT
In the Night Lands Ned, Catelyn and Robb were all drinking and over everything that happened in WF this season. Or maybe that was me. I actually weirdly thought of Robb during Sansa's wedding night. Imagine him having to watch that happen and Theon witness it. That's probably because Theon was wearing Robb's clothes to the wedding ( confirmed by Sophie Turner in this featurette).
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Post by day dreamer on Jun 19, 2015 17:28:34 GMT
I actually weirdly thought of Robb during Sansa's wedding night. Imagine him having to watch that happen and Theon witness it. That's probably because Theon was wearing Robb's clothes to the wedding ( confirmed by Sophie Turner in this featurette). Now I'm even more depressed! Actually thanks for sharing that. I didn't watch that one.
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Post by kingeomer on Jun 19, 2015 17:33:28 GMT
I actually weirdly thought of Robb during Sansa's wedding night. Imagine him having to watch that happen and Theon witness it. That's probably because Theon was wearing Robb's clothes to the wedding ( confirmed by Sophie Turner in this featurette). I thought that because Theon's clothes looked very similar to what Robb wore at the Red Wedding. day dreamer, Robb was probably doing more and plus and and
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Post by Deleted on Jun 19, 2015 20:28:04 GMT
I thought that because Theon's clothes looked very similar to what Robb wore at the Red Wedding. day dreamer, Robb was probably doing more and plus and and I appreciated that featurette as a reminder of how beautiful GoT can be for moments while disguising something terrifying beneath. That wedding scene was so amazing. I'm glad the pain of what happened to Sansa is at least simmering now into what will hopefully be retribution and triumph for her. I also thought maybe Sansa was wearing Catelyn's clothes, maybe even the wedding dress since she wouldn't have had time to make one herself, but that's never been confirmed. It was so lovely.
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Post by dany4eva on Jun 19, 2015 23:16:37 GMT
I hope Blackfish is not in. There are enough geriatrics on the show, we don't need more
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Post by dany4eva on Jun 19, 2015 23:19:20 GMT
I feel like Sansa will want to go to the wall because Ramsey informed her Jon is the LC. I can't see why she would want to go South
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Post by Deleted on Jun 19, 2015 23:21:13 GMT
I hope Blackfish is not in. There are enough geriatrics on the show, we don't need more Uh, geriatrics? That was out of the blue and uncalled for don't you think? As Jorah said: "Careful Now..." There are quite a few of us mature folks here. Doesn't seem you are in that category perhaps. I do hope the Blackfish returns.
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Post by dany4eva on Jun 19, 2015 23:35:03 GMT
I hope Blackfish is not in. There are enough geriatrics on the show, we don't need more Uh, geriatrics? That was out of the blue and uncalled for don't you think? As Jorah said: "Careful Now..." There are quite a few of us mature folks here. Doesn't seem you are in that category perhaps. I do hope the Blackfish returns. :-X
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