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Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2015 21:20:51 GMT
Brienne, LF, Ramsay, Daario and maybe Cersei, Roose and Theon. Now that the show will be 8 seasons, I think Cersei and Roose will survive another season. I would also add Tommen and Ellaria to the list, so that's about 7, which would be more than any season so far.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2015 21:23:35 GMT
Brienne, LF, Ramsay, Daario and maybe Cersei, Roose and Theon. Now that the show will be 8 seasons, I think Cersei and Roose will survive another season. I would also add Tommen and Ellaria to the list. Cersei, yes. But Roose I can't see surviving. He's got Umbers and Valemen to contend with. Not to mention his son.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2015 21:28:20 GMT
Cersei, yes. But Roose I can't see surviving. He's got Umbers and Valemen to contend with. Not to mention his son. Yeah maybe but would they kill both Roose and Ramsay in the same season?
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Post by boojam on Aug 16, 2015 21:30:03 GMT
So is September/October when we'll start getting a lot of set pics and info? If most of the non NI filming is in Spain we shall see. Spain turned out to be more 'leaky' than Croatia. The sneaks of the stunt action in the bull ring were definitely more than we have seen before. Catching actors , off set, was rampant too. Given that there is even more amateur paparazzi now than before should be interesting.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 16, 2015 21:31:56 GMT
Cersei, yes. But Roose I can't see surviving. He's got Umbers and Valemen to contend with. Not to mention his son. Yeah maybe but would they kill both Roose and Ramsay in the same season? I think so. Joff and Tywin both died in s4 after all. Both will die in TWOW IMO. And I see Roose dying first, sad as it is to say so.
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Post by day dreamer on Aug 17, 2015 3:45:33 GMT
Well if you look at it that way, yeah its good to have another character in that storyline besides Alliser, Gilly, Aemon for Jon and Sam to try to reason with, I just didn't like Olly. Pretty sure the Olly fan club is really really small. Poor kid who played him probably got more hate than Jack Gleeson! He deserves it though. Fuck Olly lol
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2015 5:21:16 GMT
Pretty sure the Olly fan club is really really small. Poor kid who played him probably got more hate than Jack Gleeson! He deserves it though. Fuck Olly lol Well, someone has to answer to Ghost. Him or Thorne would be fun. But even one of the unnamed officers dying via direwolf would really do the trick for me.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2015 5:39:14 GMT
Decent article on WotW about Theon and portraying realistic severe PTSD: watchersonthewall.com/the-importance-of-depicting-long-term-trauma-in-season-6/#more-41326I agree with the author that we should be careful expecting Theon to just "snap out of it" or that he has done so in order to save Sansa. While yes, he did get brave enough to defy his "master" and help her ... this does not mean Theon will or even should go back to the man he was before Ramsay's torture. There's no going back from what was done to him, and if they did that, it would lessen the impact of real PTSD and psychological disorders. You can't just "snap out of it" when you're in severe depression or suicidal or psychological trauma and society needs to stop expecting that. It's like a lot of the moronic remarks I read about Robin Williams after his suicide. I appreciate that Alfie made comments of how seriously he takes his part as an actor to be responsible with such a sensitive issue. Lots of people suffer PTSD for lots of terrible reasons and it changes you forever. He's a fantastic actor. I hope the show handles his arc with care from here as they've done a good job with it so far.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2015 5:51:44 GMT
Decent article on WotW about Theon and portraying realistic severe PTSD: watchersonthewall.com/the-importance-of-depicting-long-term-trauma-in-season-6/#more-41326I agree with the author that we should be careful expecting Theon to just "snap out of it" or that he has done so in order to save Sansa. While yes, he did get brave enough to defy his "master" and help her ... this does not mean Theon will or even should go back to the man he was before Ramsay's torture. There's no going back from what was done to him, and if they did that, it would lessen the impact of real PTSD and psychological disorders. You can't just "snap out of it" when you're in severe depression or suicidal or psychological trauma and society needs to stop expecting that. It's like a lot of the moronic remarks I read about Robin Williams after his suicide. I appreciate that Alfie made comments of how seriously he takes his part as an actor to be responsible with such a sensitive issue. Lots of people suffer PTSD for lots of terrible reasons and it changes you forever. He's a fantastic actor. I hope the show handles his arc with care from here as they've done a good job with it so far. I thought parts of the article were pretty melodramatic tbh. IIRC (I read it a few hours ago, so I don't remember it all too well) she tut-tuts some fans for expecting him to revert to his s2 self...which I don't think anyone did really. I think people just wanted him to do the right thing finally and of course he eventually did. And in s6 of course he won't be like he was then. He might not be Reek anymore (I hope not and 'cause I think Ramsay'll die in s6 too) but his experience will definitely colour how he behaves from now on.
And I really don't think there's any reason to think that him having changed wouldn't come across in s6. Sometimes these editorials can be overly-alarmist with their "I hope the show doesn't do this!" angles.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2015 5:59:56 GMT
Decent article on WotW about Theon and portraying realistic severe PTSD: watchersonthewall.com/the-importance-of-depicting-long-term-trauma-in-season-6/#more-41326I agree with the author that we should be careful expecting Theon to just "snap out of it" or that he has done so in order to save Sansa. While yes, he did get brave enough to defy his "master" and help her ... this does not mean Theon will or even should go back to the man he was before Ramsay's torture. There's no going back from what was done to him, and if they did that, it would lessen the impact of real PTSD and psychological disorders. You can't just "snap out of it" when you're in severe depression or suicidal or psychological trauma and society needs to stop expecting that. It's like a lot of the moronic remarks I read about Robin Williams after his suicide. I appreciate that Alfie made comments of how seriously he takes his part as an actor to be responsible with such a sensitive issue. Lots of people suffer PTSD for lots of terrible reasons and it changes you forever. He's a fantastic actor. I hope the show handles his arc with care from here as they've done a good job with it so far. I thought parts of the article were pretty melodramatic tbh. IIRC (I read it a few hours ago, so I don't remember it all too well) she tut-tuts some fans for expecting him to revert to his s2 self...which I don't think anyone did really. I think people just wanted him to do the right thing finally and of course he eventually did. And in s6 of course he won't be like he was then. He might not be Reek anymore (I hope not and 'cause I think Ramsay'll die in s6 too) but his experience will definitely colour how he behaves from now on.
And I really don't think there's any reason to think that him having changed wouldn't come across in s6. Sometimes these editorials can be overly-alarmist with their "I hope the show doesn't do this!" angles.
I agree sometimes they're using their own personal agendas or criticisms to launch a platform about the next season or how certain parts of the book were handled, etc. It's a clever way of disguising book purist bs sometimes haha. In this case, we have no idea how Theon is going to act once he's "Free" (if he does evade Ramsay successfully) but I never expected him to go back to being Theon before Ramsay and I don't think anyone else has though I have seen comments before the end of the season on youtube and reviews and articles about the episodes that "I hope he snaps out of it and kills Ramsay!" ... which is probably what the author is referring to in her "concerns." It's taken lightly, that remark, especially in regards to mental disorders. If you're depressed, you should just be able to "snap out of it" and get better because you want to ... but that's about the same as trying to tell a person with cancer to just "get over it" and heal themselves with their mind. Theon is pretty much jacked for life now which is why his story along with many other reasons is one of the most tragic of the books. People used to say he deserved it but there comes a point where you realize he doesn't deserve that. Ramsay is the one who deserves worse for what he's done.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2015 6:35:27 GMT
I see Roose surviving to get killed by WW.
Plus I think Rams dies first.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2015 9:00:18 GMT
As much as I want Ramsay to die before Roose, it would be too funny to see him fuck up everything without his daddy.
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Post by boojam on Aug 17, 2015 11:13:12 GMT
Even though we're still really in the dark about who will die this season, I'm expecting that there will be more than a couple main cast members done in Season 6. It's getting to be more , for me, who lives to the end of the story? Being that the mysterious dark force north of wall seems aimed to become a common enemy there need to be a certain irreducible core of characters united against them, it would seem. As I have said before structure of the current prose narrative story really can't take the introduction of another major character , maybe one, or the elimination of more than a handful of those left. No matter who if left standing by the end of Dream.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2015 11:22:19 GMT
People who say Theon deserved it make me want to hit somebody.
You don't deserve THAT for fucking up.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2015 12:26:03 GMT
probably bloodraven might be promoted to main cast?
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Post by afarouk07 on Aug 17, 2015 14:33:30 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2015 19:00:46 GMT
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Post by archiechvyalthan on Aug 17, 2015 19:10:28 GMT
Apparently Daniel Sackheim is there so it's an episode 3/4 scene. No idea what it could be.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2015 19:12:46 GMT
Apparently Daniel Sackheim is there so it's an episode 3/4 scene. No idea what it could be. She's talking to Mark Mylod in this one.
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Post by archiechvyalthan on Aug 17, 2015 19:18:25 GMT
Apparently Daniel Sackheim is there so it's an episode 3/4 scene. No idea what it could be. She's talking to Mark Mylod in this one.
Oh! Just read your comment over at WOTW! Well, this is surprising. Definitely looks like a Braavosi scene, but again, I didn't expect her to be there one whole season. I guess Jaime and Brienne are the only two protagonists that could roam the Riverlands this season (I thought Arya was a possibility).
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