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Post by Father of Dragons on May 31, 2016 17:15:52 GMT
Who could they even interact with? Sand Snakes playing the slapping game, Ellaria saying how weak men can't rule Dorne, Obara being the human version of grumpy cat? We haven't seen Obara play the slapping game yet! She's probably the best. She distracts her opponents using long unnecessary monologues
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Post by boojam on May 31, 2016 17:21:55 GMT
I still wonder about dragon riding. I guess Dany is still sitting on those spikes, yikes! She was controlling him at the end of Dance by body pressure here and there... but he's so freaking big now, how does that work? He gets bigger. GRRM never explained this either and seems Drogon will not get as big as Balerion. Yes he does. She uses a whip, but he doesn't always respond. At the end of Dance of Dragons she no longer has the whip and riding , the 2nd time, he does respond.
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Post by boojam on May 31, 2016 17:32:13 GMT
Anyone think that after filming INSIDE THE EPISODE David and Dan go outside and laugh their asses off?
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Post by Deleted on May 31, 2016 17:35:38 GMT
Anyone think that after filming INSIDE THE EPISODE David and Dan go outside and laugh their asses off? More likely one of them says "Why did you say something about character motivations that contradicts what I said?"
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Post by Admin on May 31, 2016 17:55:12 GMT
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Post by Deleted on May 31, 2016 18:25:29 GMT
I still wonder about dragon riding. I guess Dany is still sitting on those spikes, yikes! She was controlling him at the end of Dance by body pressure here and there... but he's so freaking big now, how does that work? He gets bigger. GRRM never explained this either and seems Drogon will not get as big as Balerion. I always got the impression that Dany and Drogon had a mind-meld thing going on, and the taming and whipping and all that was just him learning to accept her as the boss. I think he'll know where to go and what to do, because he's smart, and he knows what she's feeling/thinking on some level.
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Post by janicia on May 31, 2016 18:33:07 GMT
I liked that there seemed to be inner conflict brewing with Daario. He definitely thinks she should be queen of the world and incredibly hot, and he wants to be her consort. But it isn't really in his nature to be a follower - if she's just going to treat him as one follower among many, I think he's going to abandon her. I could totally see one of the Westerosi power players tempting him to betray her next season. Or Daario refusing to go along with the Greyjoy plan and Dany executing/exiling him for insubordination.
I think the show is holding onto Cersei's infidelity with Lancel to deploy at an important time. If the speculation that Jaime ends up killing Cersei is true, he should probably learn of the infidelity in that season. And if Jaime doesn't end up killing Cersei, that might have been their final goodbye and I don't begrudge them a happy moment.
I did like that it was Tommen that sent Jaime to the Riverlands, since it wouldn't have made sense for show Jaime and Cersei to decide to send Jaime there. I've been saying for years that I wanted Cersei and Jaime to have to deal with Tommen as their king - a real person with an agenda different from theirs. That day has come.
Such a funny detail that Mace has somebody leading his horse. I wonder if Olenna instituted that policy after his father rode off a cliff. It is a little frustrating because we don't know the full situation, but it seems like Cersei is still confined to the tower, so she's forcibly removed from a lot of the action. And both Jaime and Olenna screwed up by not paying enough attention to Tommen's interactions with the High Sparrow. Margaery had no way of communicating with them, and she already knows that Tommen can't deal with machinations so she has to play it straight with him. Olenna, in particular, should have been paying attention to Tommen, as the only outlet that she had for getting messages from Margaery. And Jaime should have been paying attention to his own Kingsguard, who obviously had enough time to redecorate their armor. It is unclear how much Kevan knew and when he knew it, but he is definitely positioned contrary to both Cersei and Olenna now.
I liked that Arya recognized similarities that she has to Cersei - similarities that Tywin saw way back in season 2. The whole use of the Braavosi play in Arya's arc was really good.
Regarding Benjen/Coldhands - why are we assuming that Coldhands is a one-off in the books? I agree with KingTommen that Benjen can't plausibly be alive north of the Wall after all this time. But in the books, maybe he's another "good wight" like Coldhands. Or he's just a loose end like Tyrion's adventurous uncle - some dude that went off and died and nothing more came of it, because that's what happens sometimes.
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Post by boojam on May 31, 2016 19:28:10 GMT
Anyone think there will be a Hodor Coldhands?
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Post by Deleted on May 31, 2016 20:30:10 GMT
Now in gif form.
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Post by Deleted on May 31, 2016 20:32:23 GMT
Now in gif form. BOW YOU SHITS!
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Post by Singer of Death on May 31, 2016 20:34:11 GMT
Far, far better than Dany's Then you'll love this. Oh Mace, KL would be boring without you.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 1, 2016 0:41:27 GMT
I think in the books, coldhands is probably precedent to what can be done for benjen. I think it is possible for benjen to survive north of the wall, but either way coldhands is not benjen imo GRRM said we will find out what happens to benjen in TWOW didnt he? So i think the show just told us.
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Post by Singer of Death on Jun 1, 2016 3:35:12 GMT
The other day I thought they may have Euron attack Dorne or something like that to bring the Sand Snakes back. And I got really sad.
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Post by Singer of Death on Jun 1, 2016 3:36:37 GMT
I think in the books, coldhands is probably precedent to what can be done for benjen. I think it is possible for benjen to survive north of the wall, but either way coldhands is not benjen imo GRRM said we will find out what happens to benjen in TWOW didnt he? So i think the show just told us. I think the book heavily implied that Benjen is dead according to the COTF or BR. But we may get a prologue chapter from him for Winds or Dream.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 1, 2016 6:23:51 GMT
BTW just a detail that I didn't see anyone mention because we were all distracted by Mace's speech and foppish getup...but my mum who's recently become quite equestrian observed in our rewatch that in the leadup to the great Sept kerfuffle Mace is having one of his soldiers lead his horse for him. So on top of everything else the man rides a horse like a child. He truly is a god amongst mere mortals. Which I guess was meant to contrast Jaime's horse-riding skills as he rides up the Sept stairs.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 1, 2016 7:03:03 GMT
BTW just a detail that I didn't see anyone mention because we were all distracted by Mace's speech and foppish getup...but my mum who's recently become quite equestrian observed in our rewatch that in the leadup to the great Sept kerfuffle Mace is having one of his soldiers lead his horse for him. So on top of everything else the man rides a horse like a child. He truly is a god amongst mere mortals. Which I guess was meant to contrast Jaime's horse-riding skills as he rides up the Sept stairs. janicia beat you to it
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Post by Deleted on Jun 1, 2016 7:10:54 GMT
BTW just a detail that I didn't see anyone mention because we were all distracted by Mace's speech and foppish getup...but my mum who's recently become quite equestrian observed in our rewatch that in the leadup to the great Sept kerfuffle Mace is having one of his soldiers lead his horse for him. So on top of everything else the man rides a horse like a child. He truly is a god amongst mere mortals. Which I guess was meant to contrast Jaime's horse-riding skills as he rides up the Sept stairs. janicia beat you to it
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Post by 7timesdamnedshewolf on Jun 1, 2016 9:08:28 GMT
I think in the books, coldhands is probably precedent to what can be done for benjen. I think it is possible for benjen to survive north of the wall, but either way coldhands is not benjen imo GRRM said we will find out what happens to benjen in TWOW didnt he? So i think the show just told us. i haven't been reading through all this, but bran did suggest in agot that the cotf could find and help benjen. so i do think his situation on the show could be similar in the books.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 1, 2016 9:10:30 GMT
I think in the books, coldhands is probably precedent to what can be done for benjen. I think it is possible for benjen to survive north of the wall, but either way coldhands is not benjen imo GRRM said we will find out what happens to benjen in TWOW didnt he? So i think the show just told us. i haven't been reading through all this, but bran did suggest in agot that the cotf could find and help benjen. so i do think his situation on the show could be similar in the books. Yeah he remembered the end of the Last Hero story and said, "The Children of the Forest will help him!" Which we were I guess meant to think was naivete instead of prescience, but it looks like he was right. Again.
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Post by 7timesdamnedshewolf on Jun 1, 2016 9:16:30 GMT
i haven't been reading through all this, but bran did suggest in agot that the cotf could find and help benjen. so i do think his situation on the show could be similar in the books. Yeah he remembered the end of the Last Hero story and said, "The Children of the Forest will help him!" Which we were I guess meant to think was naivete instead of prescience, but it looks like he was right. Again. measter luwin took it that way but poor luwin was always wrong when he talked to bran about magic. that should've been the clue bran was right then too.
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