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Post by Admin on Jun 20, 2016 19:27:37 GMT
You summed it up perfectly, IMHO. Thanks! This is all I was trying to say earlier. I don't mind people having a different opinion, even when the opinion is very strong and the complete opposite of my own. But we are such a small community and we know each other so well by now. I know if I say X in a specific way, that it will piss off or hurt person Y. So I try my best not to do that. We haven't been perfect in that regard (myself included), but I think we should try harder. It's not meant to be censoring ( day dreamer ). Everyone can still say whatever he or she likes. But there are things that don't need to be repeated every week and we should always try to be respectful of each other's feelings and favourite characters in regards to how we voice the criticism. There's a difference between saying "Sansa's behaviour irritated me because reason XY" and revelling in "Lady Bolton"-hate. I remember when I went a bit too far with my Stannis-criticism one time and I regretted it immediately because I noticed I was annoying people or even hurting their feelings. I don't wanna do that. Gurl, there was like one post calling her Lady Bolton lol. Maybe it made you feel stronger about it because more people chimed in with why Sansa was irritating this week, but it's not as if everyone refers to her as Lady Bolton. No one argued when so many referred to her as QitN all season long even if they hated the idea. Now Carol. They were hyping Sansa as QotN as a joke.
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Post by Admin on Jun 20, 2016 19:28:38 GMT
Everyone's entitled to be harsh or exuberant with their ratings but do so for valid reasons not just because everyone's voting it too high or too low. Rate the entire episode as a whole and be fair. I did that last week and you called me out for it hours ago. So which is it?
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Post by mattpeto on Jun 20, 2016 19:30:37 GMT
F it - I changed from 9 to 10. Thanks for watching.
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Post by Basil on Jun 20, 2016 19:31:28 GMT
Guys, can we just drop this, please? No one really benefits from this discussion anymore. Let's talk about the actual episode, it was a great one.
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Post by Admin on Jun 20, 2016 19:36:04 GMT
I did that last week and you called me out for it hours ago. So which is it? Sati I told you in private messages I didn't know that was even you who gave the episode a 2. I also didn't see your write-up for rating it a 2 in the first place since that would prove I knew it was you, right? Look, I'm signing off for awhile because I'm always the one willing to stick my neck out and people then jump all over me for their own misinterpretation of what I was trying to point out. Yeah I disagree with you giving it a 2, whatever. You are very vocal with your disagreements as am I here. The difference is I don't insult the show, the writers or the characters for it. If you voted last week's episode a 2 because you didn't get Lady Stoneheart ... does that really seem like a valid reason for the entire episode to be a 2? Really? No it doesn't. But there was also Arya stuff, Jaime's Cersei obsession, Blackfish demise and Brienne offering Oathkeeper back among other things.
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Post by Admin on Jun 20, 2016 19:36:41 GMT
Guys, can we just drop this, please? No one really benefits from this discussion anymore. Let's talk about the actual episode, it was a great one. Yep. I'm out. I'm keeping my vote an 11 because others are purposely down-voting. It's just reddit-crap then and voting is pointless. 1 person.
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Post by Admin on Jun 20, 2016 19:39:26 GMT
No it doesn't. But there was also Arya stuff, Jaime's Cersei obsession, Blackfish demise and Brienne offering Oathkeeper back among other things. Ok then I'll publicly apologize to you but just as I already said, I thought it was someone else who gave it a 2 anyways. If all those reasons you listed out really dropped that episode to a 2, then ok. I'll have to respect it. You don't need to apologize. They did. I didn't enjoy the episode. I only liked the ending and Brienne/Jaime wave along with some lines and shots. Hence my grade. If LSH was confirmed gone in something like Broken Man I rated 10I'd probably lower the grade but not to 2 because it was a great episode
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Post by Admin on Jun 20, 2016 19:42:08 GMT
It's only a damn poll. Also is Snowbowl Hype, which I clicked, means 11? I'm cool with that
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Post by Deleted on Jun 20, 2016 19:42:40 GMT
I loved the episode. I gave it a 10. Would have given it an 11, but didn't understand the scale. But I still think it's kind of funny that one person down-voted it a number in opposition to peer pressure. You go, rebel. If we're gonna allow honesty, we have to allow it. We just need to try to be more careful in our language, is all, since we know everyone here is so motherfucking passionate about the story. I probably type the word "fuck" on this forum more than any other. My mother would be so proud.
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Post by Basil on Jun 20, 2016 19:45:40 GMT
I would give it 11, but then I'd have to give The Rains of Castamere a 12.
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Post by lordcarson on Jun 20, 2016 19:46:04 GMT
guys pls
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Post by Admin on Jun 20, 2016 19:50:18 GMT
I loved the episode. I gave it a 10. Would have given it an 11, but didn't understand the scale . But I still think it's kind of funny that one person down-voted it a number in opposition to peer pressure. You go, rebel.
If we're gonna allow honesty, we have to allow it. We just need to try to be more careful in our language, is all, since we know everyone here is so motherfucking passionate about the story.I probably type the word "fuck" on this forum more than any other. My mother would be so proud. It is funny. It's just a poll. Why the drama?:/ I agree and I will try not to use insulting terms anymore. I'm sorry If I irritated people, in my mind atm it's just a show. Some is good, some is bad, some is Lyanna fucking Mormont. I should be able to talk about whatever I disliked or liked in General threads. However I find it very hurtful and annoying how apparently a lot of people have an issue about something and they keep I assume exchanging messages with each other. You have an issue, PM me. Don't talk to me about turds or anything just tell me. I ain't banning anyone for PMing me, Don't turn it into some high school gossip situation. It's not leading anywhere good especially when there are people here who love to let me know how much PMing is going on behind my back. I don't appreciate that at all. And it ain't improving this board, it does the opposite of it.
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Post by breakfest on Jun 20, 2016 20:05:10 GMT
I loved the episode. I gave it a 10. Would have given it an 11, but didn't understand the scale . But I still think it's kind of funny that one person down-voted it a number in opposition to peer pressure. You go, rebel.
If we're gonna allow honesty, we have to allow it. We just need to try to be more careful in our language, is all, since we know everyone here is so motherfucking passionate about the story.I probably type the word "fuck" on this forum more than any other. My mother would be so proud. It is funny. It's just a poll. Why the drama?:/ I agree and I will try not to use insulting terms anymore. I'm sorry If I irritated people, in my mind atm it's just a show. Some is good, some is bad, some is Lyanna fucking Mormont. I should be able to talk about whatever I disliked or liked in General threads. However I find it very hurtful and annoying how apparently a lot of people have an issue about something and they keep I assume exchanging messages with each other. You have an issue, PM me. Don't talk to me about turds or anything just tell me. I ain't banning anyone for PMing me, Don't turn it into some high school gossip situation. It's not leading anywhere good especially when there are people here who love to let me know how much PMing is going on behind my back. I don't appreciate that at all. And it ain't improving this board, it does the opposite of it. I really just wanted to raise a bit of an issue I had. We seemed to to go through it fairly quickly and I thought that would be it. Did not expect it to devolve into what it has, or reopen any old wounds, so I'm sorry to all if I've started all of that. Hopefully we can get to talking about the last episode and the upcoming episode pretty soon.
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Post by Admin on Jun 20, 2016 20:07:57 GMT
It is funny. It's just a poll. Why the drama?:/ I agree and I will try not to use insulting terms anymore. I'm sorry If I irritated people, in my mind atm it's just a show. Some is good, some is bad, some is Lyanna fucking Mormont. I should be able to talk about whatever I disliked or liked in General threads. However I find it very hurtful and annoying how apparently a lot of people have an issue about something and they keep I assume exchanging messages with each other. You have an issue, PM me. Don't talk to me about turds or anything just tell me. I ain't banning anyone for PMing me, Don't turn it into some high school gossip situation. It's not leading anywhere good especially when there are people here who love to let me know how much PMing is going on behind my back. I don't appreciate that at all. And it ain't improving this board, it does the opposite of it. I really just wanted to raise a bit of an issue I had. We seemed to to go through it fairly quickly and I thought that would be it. Did not expect it to devolve into what it has, or reopen any old wounds, so I'm sorry to all if I've started all of that. Hopefully we can get to talking about the last episode and the upcoming episode pretty soon. It's not your fault. You had a problem with the way I express myself, I can see how it was too much and I will try to change that. But what I said above applies. I can make an effort and not ruin your positivity and say stuff like "I don't understand why writers did that" instead of something else. So I ask for this PMing gossip I am continuously made aware of here to stop. It's not making me very inclined to be positive while this is happening. You guys raised your issue, I raised mine.
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Post by day dreamer on Jun 20, 2016 20:16:35 GMT
Gurl, there was like one post calling her Lady Bolton lol. Maybe it made you feel stronger about it because more people chimed in with why Sansa was irritating this week, but it's not as if everyone refers to her as Lady Bolton. No one argued when so many referred to her as QitN all season long even if they hated the idea. Have you actually read the board in the last 5 weeks? It was not just one post calling her Lady Bolton. It was today, but what happened today was the result of accumulated annoyance at continous posts about "Lady Bolton". People have been restraining from speaking out for several weeks now. Earlier you said you haven't seen that, but just because you haven't seen it, doesn't mean it's not there. Today even some Sansa-neutral people have noticed it. Look, it's not the end of the world and no one is prohibiting anyone to voice their opinion. We should just be a bit more sensitive about how we phrase stuff is all I'm saying. I will try to be more sensitive about how I voice my opinion as well. I'm not sure why you are so opposed to the idea of people being more considerate of each other's feelings, because honestly that's all I'm arguing for here. If "Lady Bolton" is a trigger word for you, put her on your ignore list. I'm not oppossed to sensitivity but this feels like over sensitivity. I had no idea how one nick name was so bothersome or that low ratings on episodes could be considered offensive until today. I'm honestly not trying to fight with anyone over this but I had to say something.
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Post by Admin on Jun 20, 2016 20:23:54 GMT
Have you actually read the board in the last 5 weeks? It was not just one post calling her Lady Bolton. It was today, but what happened today was the result of accumulated annoyance at continous posts about "Lady Bolton". People have been restraining from speaking out for several weeks now. Earlier you said you haven't seen that, but just because you haven't seen it, doesn't mean it's not there. Today even some Sansa-neutral people have noticed it. Look, it's not the end of the world and no one is prohibiting anyone to voice their opinion. We should just be a bit more sensitive about how we phrase stuff is all I'm saying. I will try to be more sensitive about how I voice my opinion as well. I'm not sure why you are so opposed to the idea of people being more considerate of each other's feelings, because honestly that's all I'm arguing for here. If "Lady Bolton" is a trigger word for you, put her on your ignore list. I'm not oppossed to sensitivity but this feels like over sensitivity. I had no idea how one nick name was so bothersome or that low ratings on episodes could be considered offensive until today. I'm honestly not trying to fight with anyone over this but I had to say something. I don't think one can ignore an admin but I sure ignore some post even though no one is on my ignore list. If I can do it, so can others. Preferable way would be for everyone to calm down and stop doing hurtful things or getting worked up. Now I have started this process. Hopefully others will too. And we can have some sort of peace here. But I say it once more - people who dislike the episode, want to rate it low or voice their negative opinion have every right to and they shouldn't have to explain themselves. And others should not find it insulting. It's as @witchy said - it's the way it is expressed. I think myself mostly but also others have not voiced it right. So we should work on that. But other than that disliking a show you like is not something which one should find insulting. And disliking the direction the show is going to is not something one should justify. If those who love it are not expected to justify it, it should be the same way other way around too
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Post by Deleted on Jun 20, 2016 20:25:43 GMT
The ep's still at 10 on IMDB with 36, 491 votes. I'm sure it'll go down to 9.9 or even 9.8 eventually. But that's AMAZING.
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Post by lordcarson on Jun 20, 2016 20:48:21 GMT
If "Lady Bolton" is a trigger word for you, put her on your ignore list. I'm not oppossed to sensitivity but this feels like over sensitivity. I had no idea how one nick name was so bothersome or that low ratings on episodes could be considered offensive until today. I'm honestly not trying to fight with anyone over this but I had to say something. I don't think one can ignore an admin but I sure ignore some post even though no one is on my ignore list. If I can do it, so can others. Preferable way would be for everyone to calm down and stop doing hurtful things or getting worked up. Now I have started this process. Hopefully others will too. And we can have some sort of peace here. But I say it once more - people who dislike the episode, want to rate it low or voice their negative opinion have every right to and they shouldn't have to explain themselves. And others should not find it insulting. It's as @witchy said - it's the way it is expressed. I think myself mostly but also others have not voiced it right. So we should work on that. But other than that disliking a show you like is not something which one should find insulting. And disliking the direction the show is going to is not something one should justify. If those who love it are not expected to justify it, it should be the same way other way around too I agree with most of what you said, except for the bolded part. I think that is actually one of the things that justification is necessary for! None of us can predict the future, so I think making an argument for this could bring up some constructive debates and help people look at things from other angles. This isn't me saying that no one can have this opinion, this is me saying that its an interesting thought that I think deserves to be expanded on for people who disagree, rather than just stated and respected as an opinion. This specific point seems like more of a conversation starter than a personal thought. But that's just how I feel about it. Anybody can say whatever they want as long as they're not saying they're gonna murder another person's family or something.
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Post by Nezzer on Jun 20, 2016 20:51:27 GMT
The ep's still at 10 on IMDB with 36, 491 votes. I'm sure it'll go down to 9.9 or even 9.8 eventually. But that's AMAZING. As it should be
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Post by Admin on Jun 20, 2016 20:55:07 GMT
I don't think one can ignore an admin but I sure ignore some post even though no one is on my ignore list. If I can do it, so can others. Preferable way would be for everyone to calm down and stop doing hurtful things or getting worked up. Now I have started this process. Hopefully others will too. And we can have some sort of peace here. But I say it once more - people who dislike the episode, want to rate it low or voice their negative opinion have every right to and they shouldn't have to explain themselves. And others should not find it insulting. It's as @witchy said - it's the way it is expressed. I think myself mostly but also others have not voiced it right. So we should work on that. But other than that disliking a show you like is not something which one should find insulting. And disliking the direction the show is going to is not something one should justify. If those who love it are not expected to justify it, it should be the same way other way around too I agree with most of what you said, except for the bolded part. I think that is actually one of the things that justification is necessary for! None of us can predict the future, so I think making an argument for this could bring up some constructive debates and help people look at things from other angles. This isn't me saying that no one can have this opinion, this is me saying that its an interesting thought that I think deserves to be expanded on for people who disagree, rather than just stated and respected as an opinion. This specific point seems like more of a conversation starter than a personal thought. But that's just how I feel about it. Anybody can say whatever they want as long as they're not saying they're gonna murder another person's family or something. Sure yeah conversation starter. All for it. Not something people gossip about in PM or make call out posts about.
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