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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2016 9:55:25 GMT
I had no problems with the Kingsmoot other than the actor playing Euron.
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Post by Mecha-StannisForever on May 23, 2016 9:57:57 GMT
The Kingsmoot sucked. I'm glad it was shorter, because those chapters in AFfC felt like an eternity. And wtf are a bunch of the Iron Born okay with kinslaying? You're telling me that powerful and intelligent men like Tywin Lannister and Roose Bolton avoided this because it's so taboo, but the fucking Iron Born are just like "nahh! No biggie."  Yes, I feel the Ironborn have been consistently portrayed as being quite stupid and ineffective in most of their endeavors. They really have accomplished nothing of importance in the book or the show. The only reason they had any success in their invasion of the North is because they were attacking undefended territories. The Ironborn are easily manipulated with some mild chest-thumping and are willing to throw their lives away for pride. "Did you pay the iron price for that trinket?" Give me a break.  I always thought Yara's failed attack on the Dreadfort was perfectly in-line with other Ironborn escapades. Their form of worship is drowning each other for crying out loud. Ramsay summed it up perfectly when he reminded Theon that Krakens crumple up into nothing on the land. Euron is surely going to be more of the same, which is why I enjoyed his oafish bragging at the Kingsmoot. Everybody should re-read AFFC and pay attention to the insecurities beneath the surface of Euron Greyjoy. I doubt Euron will be more of the same. The guy has something the majority of them lack. Intelligence. He's got an end game, at least in the books. In the show, hopefully he does too |
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Post by Admin on May 23, 2016 9:58:17 GMT
I had no problems with the Kingsmoot other than the actor playing Euron. Other than him I thought it was pretty good. I didn't think he was bad but he was upstaged with seriously everybody in this scene, including the creepy priest guy |
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Post by boojam on May 23, 2016 9:59:07 GMT
I thought it was funny that Sansa did not bring up the Vale as a source of man power and I did think that she was playing the LF story to get LF to thrown in the Vale. By the by if she ever tells Royce what happen he would kill LF. Why? LF forced her to do anything? He presented her with idiotic idea based on apparently, what the writers want us to believe, zero research. So LF is just a fool, not a mischievous monster who knew Ramsay was a psycho and sent Sansa there. Sansa agreed to marry a traitor and betrayed her family name, her inheritance and the North. She gave Boltons legitimate reason to hold WF. That she thought she can trick them by being snarky during dinners excuses nothing. And now she has audacity to act like she has right to Winterfell, she lost that right. She should stay quiet and back and support Jon, not trying to upstage him. Hearing her talk of North and being a Stark made me nauseous. How come after 6 seasons LF becomes a fool when he was not portrayed that way (well explicitly) before? |
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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2016 10:00:20 GMT
I had no problems with the Kingsmoot other than the actor playing Euron. Other than him I thought it was pretty good. I didn't think he was bad but he was upstaged with seriously everybody in this scene, including the creepy priest guy He's soooo bland. I hate to be better in the books guy, but... |
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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2016 10:01:14 GMT
It's weird, because I thought he was really good in 6x02.  But yeah, I agree... he was bland as fuck in this one. |
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Post by Admin on May 23, 2016 10:01:42 GMT
Why? LF forced her to do anything? He presented her with idiotic idea based on apparently, what the writers want us to believe, zero research. So LF is just a fool, not a mischievous monster who knew Ramsay was a psycho and sent Sansa there. Sansa agreed to marry a traitor and betrayed her family name, her inheritance and the North. She gave Boltons legitimate reason to hold WF. That she thought she can trick them by being snarky during dinners excuses nothing. And now she has audacity to act like she has right to Winterfell, she lost that right. She should stay quiet and back and support Jon, not trying to upstage him. Hearing her talk of North and being a Stark made me nauseous. How come after 6 seasons LF becomes a fool when he was not portrayed that way (well explicitly) before? Ask the writers, not me. |
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Post by Mecha-StannisForever on May 23, 2016 10:03:05 GMT
It's weird, because I thought he was really good in 6x02. But yeah, I agree... he was bland as fuck in this one. Yeah, I hope he's better in the next few episodes |
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Post by Admin on May 23, 2016 10:04:21 GMT
I didn't think he was bad but he was upstaged with seriously everybody in this scene, including the creepy priest guy He's soooo bland. I hate to be better in the books guy, but... Also he is a Paddington bear looking fuck. |
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Post by DaveyJoe on May 23, 2016 10:06:28 GMT
Yes, I feel the Ironborn have been consistently portrayed as being quite stupid and ineffective in most of their endeavors. They really have accomplished nothing of importance in the book or the show. The only reason they had any success in their invasion of the North is because they were attacking undefended territories. The Ironborn are easily manipulated with some mild chest-thumping and are willing to throw their lives away for pride. "Did you pay the iron price for that trinket?" Give me a break. I always thought Yara's failed attack on the Dreadfort was perfectly in-line with other Ironborn escapades. Their form of worship is drowning each other for crying out loud. Ramsay summed it up perfectly when he reminded Theon that Krakens crumple up into nothing on the land. Euron is surely going to be more of the same, which is why I enjoyed his oafish bragging at the Kingsmoot. Everybody should re-read AFFC and pay attention to the insecurities beneath the surface of Euron Greyjoy. I doubt Euron will be more of the same. The guy has something the majority of them lack. Intelligence. He's got an end game, at least in the books. In the show, hopefully he does too Euron may surprise us, but I thought the Kingsmoot was pretty typical of previous Ironborn portrayals. The jury is still out on book Euron, it's pretty easy to look intelligent next to characters like Victarion. I had a different interpretation of him than a lot of readers. One thing rarely mentioned, but stood out to me, was how uncertain Euron seemed in himself when Victarion visited his chambers. |
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Post by Mecha-StannisForever on May 23, 2016 10:06:49 GMT
Why? LF forced her to do anything? He presented her with idiotic idea based on apparently, what the writers want us to believe, zero research. So LF is just a fool, not a mischievous monster who knew Ramsay was a psycho and sent Sansa there. Sansa agreed to marry a traitor and betrayed her family name, her inheritance and the North. She gave Boltons legitimate reason to hold WF. That she thought she can trick them by being snarky during dinners excuses nothing. And now she has audacity to act like she has right to Winterfell, she lost that right. She should stay quiet and back and support Jon, not trying to upstage him. Hearing her talk of North and being a Stark made me nauseous. How come after 6 seasons LF becomes a fool when he was not portrayed that way (well explicitly) before? A fool? No he was just a bit off guard is all. Still, he kind of won the war of words with Sansa because now she clearly doesn't trust Jon. And Brienne made sure she won't trust Davos, even though Davos was sent to the wall by Stannis himself by saying he abandoned him. I can't wait for Brienne to die. |
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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2016 10:08:33 GMT
He's soooo bland. I hate to be better in the books guy, but... Also he is a Paddington bear looking fuck.  Speaking of Richard, I think he was in one of the trailers before Nice Guys. Some stupid looking Zac Effron movie. |
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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2016 10:10:58 GMT
How come after 6 seasons LF becomes a fool when he was not portrayed that way (well explicitly) before? A fool? No he was just a bit off guard is all. Still, he kind of won the war of words with Sansa because now she clearly doesn't trust Jon. And Brienne made sure she won't trust Davos, even though Davos was sent to the wall by Stannis himself by saying he abandoned him. I can't wait for Brienne to die. Brienne and Tormund will rule the the Sunset kingdom together. It is known. |
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Post by Mecha-StannisForever on May 23, 2016 10:12:54 GMT
I doubt Euron will be more of the same. The guy has something the majority of them lack. Intelligence. He's got an end game, at least in the books. In the show, hopefully he does too Euron may surprise us, but I thought the Kingsmoot was pretty typical of previous Ironborn portrayals. The jury is still out on book Euron, it's pretty easy to look intelligent next to characters like Victarion. I had a different interpretation of him than a lot of readers. One thing rarely mentioned, but stood out to me, was how uncertain Euron seemed in himself when Victarion visited his chambers.Never really noticed that one before, I always look to the pbvious, like part where Roderick the reader questions his trip to Valyria. Euron's clearly a bullshit merchant, but he's clever in a way that he knows how to lie in order to win people over. My interpretation has always been that he was a cunning guy who was using the Ironborn as a means to an end. He has little interest in the salt throne but he needs the iron fleet to get what he wants. Then again, I think we can all agree that ironborn have never been portrayed as competent. |
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Post by Mecha-StannisForever on May 23, 2016 10:16:12 GMT
He's soooo bland. I hate to be better in the books guy, but... Also he is a Paddington bear looking fuck. I think Michael Huisman looks more like Euron than Daario...  |
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Post by Admin on May 23, 2016 10:19:05 GMT
How come after 6 seasons LF becomes a fool when he was not portrayed that way (well explicitly) before? A fool? No he was just a bit off guard is all. Still, he kind of won the war of words with Sansa because now she clearly doesn't trust Jon. And Brienne made sure she won't trust Davos, even though Davos was sent to the wall by Stannis himself by saying he abandoned him. I can't wait for Brienne to die. Sansa calling someone else an idiot and Brienne accusing other people of being opportunistic made me laugh and roll my eyes. |
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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2016 10:19:45 GMT
Also he is a Paddington bear looking fuck. I think Michael Huisman looks more like Euron than Daario... He would have made a good Euron for sure. Euron is supposed to be really sexy, no? Is anyone into Pilou? |
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Post by stoneheartsrevenge on May 23, 2016 10:21:28 GMT
As I said in the live reaction thread, we have now seen the earliest scene in Westerosi history to date. Kind of a weird thing to think about It is weird, but incredibly interesting and important, I would say to the story. More than a few people had said that the CHildren created the Others and they were right. I can't think very intellectually right now but we really need to start putting these pieces together. there is some important shit here. But I can't process right now. What does this mean about the motivation of the Others? Are they still seeking to kill humans because that's what they were made for? But if the Children can't stop them, then it'll have to be man? How can they be destroyed? What kind of magic can destroy them if Children magic made them? I have a lot of questions... Lots of questions yeah. I think I said this in the general leaks thread, but I think the Children creating the Others is fine, makes sense given their being hunted by the First Men. My problem with the various theories that predate this episode was the idea the Children and the Others were in league with each other, so this episode pleased me in debunking that. As I also said there, it makes me curious about Bran's last vision in the books. Everyone assumed it was just a sacrifice to a Weirwood...what if it was something more? An attempt to create a Walker (whether successful or not) perhaps? So many questions! I think the Children created the Others to protect them against the First Men, but the Others became out of their control and eventually the Children had to team up with their enemy to defeat their ally. Also, I feel really bad for the children of the forest. All they wanted was to be left alone. Yep, pretty much exactly what I though. If I were to expand on that idea a bit more, I would guess the CotF never intended to give the Others free will, sort meant to make a "blank slate". Only they failed, so instead of hating men, they hate their creators too It's weird, because I thought he was really good in 6x02. But yeah, I agree... he was bland as fuck in this one. Well to be fair his scene in 6x02 was fairly short, very dark and had lots of other stuff (the storm, the bridge, the noise) going on around him so maybe we all just overrated him then |
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Post by stoneheartsrevenge on May 23, 2016 10:24:40 GMT
I think Michael Huisman looks more like Euron than Daario... He would have made a good Euron for sure. Euron is supposed to be really sexy, no? Is anyone into Pilou? Not even slightly. It's a shame, like Kairos said I was hopeful after 6x02. Anyway, I think I need to watch again tonight before I comment more because I nodded off a few times while I was watching (not because it was boring but I was tired) |
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Post by Basil on May 23, 2016 10:27:40 GMT
I think Michael Huisman looks more like Euron than Daario... He would have made a good Euron for sure. Euron is supposed to be really sexy, no? Is anyone into Pilou? Real life Pilou is cute, Euron Pilou does nothing for me.  |
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I always thought Yara's failed attack on the Dreadfort was perfectly in-line with other Ironborn escapades. Their form of worship is drowning each other for crying out loud. Ramsay summed it up perfectly when he reminded Theon that Krakens crumple up into nothing on the land. Euron is surely going to be more of the same, which is why I enjoyed his oafish bragging at the Kingsmoot. Everybody should re-read AFFC and pay attention to the insecurities beneath the surface of Euron Greyjoy.
But yeah, I agree... he was bland as fuck in this one.
