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Post by lordcarson on May 25, 2016 20:26:43 GMT
So let's say Benjen does in fact rescue Bran and Meera and takes them back to Castle Black. If he stays beyond the Wall, I wonder if Edd might take it upon himself to take them to Winterfell, since he knows that will be where Jon went, which would then spare him from death if (when) the Wall gets fucked. Then we will have another season of Edd. pls god pls  If Benjen comes back, why would he stay north of the wall? Where the hell was he all this time? I haven't been able to grasp this one yet in a makes-no-sense way worse than Gendry's vanishing. If Benjen came back, he would be the Lord Commander as he was a senior member of the Night's Watch and also First Ranger wasn't he? I assume he never came back for a reason,so he might deliver them to safety and go back on his way. Either he's undead and physically can't pass the Wall again with the magic in it or he's just spent all his time beyond the Wall fighting. I'm sure it will be explained if he does come back though, so we may not have to wonder for long. |
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Post by Deleted on May 25, 2016 20:27:45 GMT
So let's say Benjen does in fact rescue Bran and Meera and takes them back to Castle Black. If he stays beyond the Wall, I wonder if Edd might take it upon himself to take them to Winterfell, since he knows that will be where Jon went, which would then spare him from death if (when) the Wall gets fucked. Then we will have another season of Edd. pls god pls If Benjen came back, he would be the Lord Commander as he was a senior member of the Night's Watch and also First Ranger wasn't he? I doubt it, since he's been away for so long. |
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Post by Admin on May 25, 2016 20:30:39 GMT
If Benjen comes back, why would he stay north of the wall? Where the hell was he all this time? I haven't been able to grasp this one yet in a makes-no-sense way worse than Gendry's vanishing. If Benjen came back, he would be the Lord Commander as he was a senior member of the Night's Watch and also First Ranger wasn't he? Sailing around the seas, of course. How convenient that he comes back immediately after a certain Euron has won the Kingsmoot? And Gendry didn't vanish. His story ended. It didn't though. He is the last Baratheon. |
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Post by Deleted on May 25, 2016 20:30:56 GMT
If Benjen came back, he would be the Lord Commander as he was a senior member of the Night's Watch and also First Ranger wasn't he? I doubt it, since he's been away for so long. They already have a Lord Commander. And that guy can make fart noises better than Benjen. |
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Post by Deleted on May 25, 2016 20:32:48 GMT
Sailing around the seas, of course. How convenient that he comes back immediately after a certain Euron has won the Kingsmoot? And Gendry didn't vanish. His story ended. It didn't though. He is the last Baratheon. Until we see him again / have a legit information that he is going to come back, I am going to think that Gendry's story ended. He went back to King's Landing. Maybe he drowned. Maybe the goldcloaks killed him. Anyway, I doubt we're ever going to see him again. |
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Post by Deleted on May 25, 2016 20:33:41 GMT
I doubt it, since he's been away for so long. They already have a Lord Commander. And that guy can make fart noises better than Benjen.wut. |
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Post by Deleted on May 25, 2016 20:40:12 GMT
They already have a Lord Commander. And that guy can make fart noises better than Benjen.wut. Back in Season 2 (could be S3 too) Edd, Grenn, and Sam are talking about Craster's daughters. Edd starts to talk about his dead mother, who started to fart when she died. He goes on and makes farting noises for about a minute, until Sam says "I thought we were having a serious conversation", to which Edd responds "We were". |
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Post by Deleted on May 25, 2016 20:44:16 GMT
Back in Season 2 (could be S3 too) Edd, Grenn, and Sam are talking about Craster's daughters. Edd starts to talk about his dead mother, who started to fart when she died. He goes on and makes farting noises for about a minute, until Sam says "I thought we were having a serious conversation", to which Edd responds "We were". |
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Post by Deleted on May 25, 2016 21:08:35 GMT
Guys, you shouldn't worry about Edd's death. He will obviously have a recurring role as a wight in Seasons 7 and 8.
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Post by boojam on May 25, 2016 21:37:08 GMT
Ah I see what you're saying. Yeah that translates a tad bit better. Non English speakers now know how to say "Hold the door!" if they didn't have the dubbed version. The world is full of new Hodors! (that's really not funny Envie.  ) It just occurred to me that this week's Beautiful Death is going to rip my heart open. I'll bet now that Alexander Siddig , Toby Sebastian , DeObia Oparei ,Michael McElhatton and Natalia Tena wish they could of had their deaths framed eloquently instead of being given the bums rush. |
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Post by lordcarson on May 25, 2016 21:49:57 GMT
It just occurred to me that this week's Beautiful Death is going to rip my heart open. I'll bet now that Alexander Siddig , Toby Sebastian , DeObia Oparei ,Michael McElhatton and Natalia Tena wish they could of had their deaths framed eloquently instead of being given the bums rush. The Dornish and Roose were both Beautiful Deaths. |
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Post by Deleted on May 25, 2016 22:13:09 GMT
It just occurred to me that this week's Beautiful Death is going to rip my heart open. I'll bet now that Alexander Siddig , Toby Sebastian , DeObia Oparei ,Michael McElhatton and Natalia Tena wish they could of had their deaths framed eloquently instead of being given the bums rush. Michael McElhatton was captured. I was hoping they would do Osha instead of the khals. That was an awesome, iconic moment for Dany, but nobody gave a shit about those khals. |
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Post by DaveyJoe on May 26, 2016 11:10:17 GMT
I just bristled at spoilers. Believe it or not, but Roosey has been in tune with the game better than anybody this season. He's predicated almost every shocker and been ready to provide the back story to minor book details that we all forgot in our own arrogance.
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Post by archiechvyalthan on May 26, 2016 12:12:09 GMT
Some more random thoughts after second rewatch: -The Meereenese throne room has NEVER looked better. I don't understand how they never did a night scene there before, but it looks amazing, as if it was a new place. The room was completely R'hllorized with all the flames. Beautiful. -There is some real tension when the Night King meets the Raven. That room is CHARGED. And there's a brief moment where the Night King inspects the Raven's face. He probably realizes just what the Raven is doing. -The fact that the present-day children of the forest live in such a creepy, shady place makes an awful lot of sense now that we know that they themselves were corrupted. The idea of this subterranean hellish "forest" is brilliant in retrospect. -The Waif doing that head tilt when Arya jumps up creeps me out. -Speaking of lighting, the contrast between the sickly House of Black and White and the super-colorful play is amazing. Two opposite kinds of 'acting' (FM and the troupe). Damn, Jack Bender knows what he's doing. -This has to be one of the strongest episodes thematically. On the one hand you have characters like Bran, desperately wanting to get lost in their own private little world. On the other hand you have people like Kinvara, who is focused on the "big picture" to a worrying extent ("all terrible things happen for a reason" and she doesn't seem slightly bothered). And in the middle of them you have Hodor, who is experiencing both at the same time  |
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Post by atimeforwolves on May 26, 2016 14:44:18 GMT
Some more random thoughts after second rewatch: -The Meereenese throne room has NEVER looked better. I don't understand how they never did a night scene there before, but it looks amazing, as if it was a new place. The room was completely R'hllorized with all the flames. Beautiful. -There is some real tension when the Night King meets the Raven. That room is CHARGED. And there's a brief moment where the Night King inspects the Raven's face. He probably realizes just what the Raven is doing. -The fact that the present-day children of the forest live in such a creepy, shady place makes an awful lot of sense now that we know that they themselves were corrupted. The idea of this subterranean hellish "forest" is brilliant in retrospect. -The Waif doing that head tilt when Arya jumps up creeps me out. -Speaking of lighting, the contrast between the sickly House of Black and White and the super-colorful play is amazing. Two opposite kinds of 'acting' (FM and the troupe). Damn, Jack Bender knows what he's doing. -This has to be one of the strongest episodes thematically. On the one hand you have characters like Bran, desperately wanting to get lost in their own private little world. On the other hand you have people like Kinvara, who is focused on the "big picture" to a worrying extent ( "all terrible things happen for a reason" and she doesn't seem slightly bothered). And in the middle of them you have Hodor, who is experiencing both at the same time This quote might as well be a summary of the episode: - Sansa and Jon are trying to reclaim Winterfell, because of awful things that happened to them (Sansa/LF talk reminds us of this) - Arya came to Braavos and is learning how to become assassin, because she saw the death of her loved ones; or perhaps more like Eddard' death had to happen to inaugurate the course of the entire story ( theatre play reminds us of this) - Daenerys is marching on Meereen with a new army (which IMO is the first step to return to Westeros), because of... well almost everything what have happened to her; and Jorah is going on a "mission" (I think he'll meet with Sam and create Wolf-Dragon alliance), because of his illness and faithfulness - Varys and Tyrion are in Meereen now and helping Daenerys, because of terrible events of their past (Kinvara/Varys talk reminds us of this) - Bran and Hodor.... eh, it still hurts, but you already know where I'm going. All these terrible things had to happen to characters get there, where they are now. Priestess definitely sees the whole picture. In this context, episode's title "The Door" can symbolize not only the idea of predestination in the Bran's arc, but it applies to all. Door as a symbol of the inevitability of certain events in order to make the characters on the right path (I hope for a greater purpose). |
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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2016 15:07:36 GMT
So, is Hodor now the biggest hero of the series thus far? Who has made a bigger, more selfless sacrifice?
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Post by Mecha-StannisForever on May 26, 2016 15:08:26 GMT
If Benjen comes back, why would he stay north of the wall? Where the hell was he all this time? I haven't been able to grasp this one yet in a makes-no-sense way worse than Gendry's vanishing. If Benjen came back, he would be the Lord Commander as he was a senior member of the Night's Watch and also First Ranger wasn't he? I assume he never came back for a reason,so he might deliver them to safety and go back on his way. Either he's undead and physically can't pass the Wall again with the magic in it or he's just spent all his time beyond the Wall fighting. I'm sure it will be explained if he does come back though, so we may not have to wonder for long. Supposedly George confirmed that coldhands wasn't benjen to his editor, whether you believe that or not. Also, I wouldn't expect the explanation for a few episodes yet, still, a few weeks is sooner than waiting for George to write it. |
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Post by Mecha-StannisForever on May 26, 2016 15:09:25 GMT
So, is Hodor now the biggest hero of the series thus far? Who has made a bigger, more selfless sacrifice? He didn't really have a choice...  |
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Post by Mecha-StannisForever on May 26, 2016 15:12:53 GMT
Guys, you shouldn't worry about Edd's death. He will obviously have a recurring role as a wight in Seasons 7 and 8.  |
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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2016 15:12:55 GMT
So, is Hodor now the biggest hero of the series thus far? Who has made a bigger, more selfless sacrifice? He didn't really have a choice...  That's mostly true, but I think at the very end, Bran was no longer inside Hodor, and it was all Hodor (past and present) feeling the trauma and continuing to hold the door out of love and duty. What do others think? |
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