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Post by kingeomer on May 23, 2016 2:41:24 GMT
Is there enough of it go around and can Westeros get it's proverbial sh*t together in time before it becomes a wasteland and Dany flies over with her dragons is like, "Ooops, my GPS was wrong. I'm not ruling a wasteland of zombies." I'm really concerned now, who the fuck is going to tell Dany about the ice demons before the shit hits the fan. And what role will Euron play in this, because I have the sense that he is there to play a major antagonistic role. This. Who is going to tell her and is she going to believe them? I definitely think Euron is set up to be an antagonist. Let's hope he lives up to the billing. I don't know that I buy D&D's explanation for why Sansa lied. And it's surprising that Jon was not told that Brienne and Sansa left to go to Molestown. |
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Post by mandzipop on May 23, 2016 2:43:08 GMT
I think I sort of understand what might need to be done. Someone else will have to be sacrificed to defeat and become the new Night's King to control the army of the dead. That person would be TPTWP (whichever name gets chosen). Someone who can absorb the ice magic whilst still remaining human. That could possibly be someone with dragons blood. To destroy the army of the undead, they need someone to control them whilst someone is destroying them with dragons (possibly).
That is my new pet theory.
Sorry, having a Preston Jacobs moment.
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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2016 2:44:06 GMT
It is confusing , first Dan and Dave say she lied because she is playing a game with LF and then they say LF is playing her. Which is it? They give their explanation for why Sansa lied to Jon and didn't tell him she met Littlefinger in the Inside-the-episode video: I'm not really buying it though. Also, wouldn't Jon have known if Sansa and Brienne just decided to ride out of Castle Black to visit Mole Town?  I see what they are saying about Sansa but I don't understand why she would hide that from Jon. Thanks for sharing. I see that they talked about the patterns and symbols. I did notice though that they didn't mentioned the patterns and symbols used with Dany, I wonder if they'll have significance later and that's why they didn't mentione it. Also, watching the last scene at the end was again heartbreaking. |
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Post by morgantayler on May 23, 2016 2:44:58 GMT
Goddamn, that episode was so good. Definitely the best of the season and one of their best overall. I cried so much during that end sequence. I can't believe they would take Summer and Hodor from us in the same episode. That's so fucking cruel.
I thought everything was really good. Emilia killed in her stuff with Jorah, Arya's stuff was great, and Sansa was a boss ass bitch. The Kingsmoot was pretty good as well, so I guess Yara and Theon are going to try to make it to Dany first.
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Post by boojam on May 23, 2016 2:46:26 GMT
I'm really concerned now, who the fuck is going to tell Dany about the ice demons before the shit hits the fan. And what role will Euron play in this, because I have the sense that he is there to play a major antagonistic role. I don't know that I buy D&D's explanation for why Sansa lied. And it's surprising that Jon was not told that Brienne and Sansa left to go to Molestown. It seems Dany will finally run into the high priestess of R'hllor who will tell what she's gonna have to do. This is no the first time the followers of R'hllor have mentioned Dany, but I think it is the fist time one has intimated Dany is Azor Ahai, what exactly is Jon then? |
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Post by breakfest on May 23, 2016 2:47:18 GMT
Sansa's motivation is purposefully cloudy. Are people really disappointed that she might be retaining some affiliation towards Littlefinger? Did you see the way she talked to him? I think it makes it vastly more interesting for her to be portraying a very strong, queenly attitude whilst still understanding the need for people like Littlefinger. Will make things really interesting going forward seeing how she plays him.
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Post by boojam on May 23, 2016 2:48:23 GMT
Goddamn, that episode was so good. Definitely the best of the season and one of their best overall. I cried so much during that end sequence. I can't believe they would take Summer and Hodor from us in the same episode. That's so fucking cruel. I thought everything was really good. Emilia killed in her stuff with Jorah, Arya's stuff was great, and Sansa was a boss ass bitch. The Kingsmoot was pretty good as well, so I guess Yara and Theon are going to try to make it to Dany first. Emilia must have been working on the piss and vinegar exercises for this season. |
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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2016 2:48:23 GMT
I think I sort of understand what might need to be done. Someone else will have to be sacrificed to defeat and become the new Night's King to control the army of the dead. That person would be TPTWP (whichever name gets chosen). Someone who can absorb the ice magic whilst still remaining human. That could possibly be someone with dragons blood. To destroy the army of the undead, they need someone to control them whilst someone is destroying them with dragons (possibly). That is my new pet theory. Sorry, having a Preston Jacobs moment. A little crazy, but I like it. I can't think right now but I have the feeling we were given some important information for the future. |
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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2016 2:49:14 GMT
Sansa's motivation is purposefully cloudy. Are people really disappointed that she might be retaining some affiliation towards Littlefinger? Did you see the way she talked to him? I think it makes it vastly more interesting for her to be portraying a very strong, queenly attitude whilst still understanding the need for people like Littlefinger. Will make things really interesting going forward seeing how she plays him. Well if she's trying to be manipulative as she's learned from Littlefinger, they could have at least explained what she intends to do about that ... why was nothing mentioned about the Knights of the Vale? They NEED that army. I can only imagine they intentionally left it out so the Vale can show up last minute the way Stannis did at the wall. |
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Post by mandzipop on May 23, 2016 2:49:56 GMT
I think I sort of understand what might need to be done. Someone else will have to be sacrificed to defeat and become the new Night's King to control the army of the dead. That person would be TPTWP (whichever name gets chosen). Someone who can absorb the ice magic whilst still remaining human. That could possibly be someone with dragons blood. To destroy the army of the undead, they need someone to control them whilst someone is destroying them with dragons (possibly). That is my new pet theory. Sorry, having a Preston Jacobs moment. A little crazy, but I like it. I can't think right now but I have the feeling we were given some important information for the future. The bit that swung it for me was Edd commenting that Jon's eyes were brown not blue. |
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Post by morgantayler on May 23, 2016 2:50:26 GMT
On a less sad note, I loved Tyrion throwing Varys' line from the season 5 premiere back in his face.
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Post by TheMadQueen on May 23, 2016 2:51:11 GMT
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Post by TheMadQueen on May 23, 2016 2:53:28 GMT
my eyes are sweating
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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2016 2:53:35 GMT
They mentioned the Manderlys and White Harbor again.  |
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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2016 2:53:51 GMT
They created ice demons... Ice.
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Post by valyrianshadow on May 23, 2016 2:54:28 GMT
From valyrianshadow ... Seriously, someone unravel this for me, my brain is completely baked trying to figure out where Wylis/Hodor was exactly in all that??? Anyone? Was this explained somewhere? In the Behind the Episode? |
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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2016 2:54:53 GMT
Really appreciated Isaac's eloquent words about that. He's a wonderful boy and I'm just gonna go sit outside and cry some more now. Hodor didn't deserve that... he was so innocent. His entire life was for that one moment.  |
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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2016 2:57:10 GMT
From valyrianshadow ... Seriously, someone unravel this for me, my brain is completely baked trying to figure out where Wylis/Hodor was exactly in all that??? Anyone? Was this explained somewhere? In the Behind the Episode? I'm pretty sure he was himself at the end and he understood what it all had been about. He sacrificed himself willingly for his friends. |
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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2016 2:58:36 GMT
From valyrianshadow ... Seriously, someone unravel this for me, my brain is completely baked trying to figure out where Wylis/Hodor was exactly in all that??? Anyone? Was this explained somewhere? In the Behind the Episode? Bran was in a vision ... so he warged into Hodor (the older version) to get himself and Meera out ... but then Wylis the boy's eyes went white ... so was Bran warging into Wylis or into Hodor via Wylis? So I have to say from what I can guess ... Wylis saw himself as Hodor and Hodor was not warged anymore but actually Hodor and he knew what he had to do. |
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Post by mandzipop on May 23, 2016 2:58:40 GMT
My feeling with Sansa was that she didn't want help from LF as she knows that he'll want something in return and she knows Jon is highly unlikely to survive LF's political shenanigans. She probably also thought that they'd have the support of all of the northern houses so there was no need for help from the Vale. However, keeping LF alive could be helpful with the knowledge he might help. If Jon knew he'd try and get LF to help, he doesn't know enough about LF. It is going to cost a lot of lives in the long run and she may have to sacrifice something to get his help. I still think he'll want her hand in marriage.
Just had another brainwave. Heads off to Leaks.
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