6x04 POST-Episode Discussion (airs 15th May)

Don't make me sad right now.

Nice contrast, I like that. 

There is still good left in this world after all.

I agree, but this is the fandom that claimed Sophie was just a young girl being forced by the evil D&D to say she enjoyed filming Sansa's rape scene last season and she didn't understand how controversial it was instead of one of the main actresses of a huge tv show with an actual contract that won't be fired even if she says she didn't like one scene, like Natalie Dormer did when she first read that bedroom scene with Tommen after Joffrey died (and she convinced them to change the scene, look how terrible D&D are) or Sybel did when Shae lied about Sansa in Tyrion's trial (except that time D&D didn't alter the scene), and even though both Alfie and Iwan were free to say they had a hard time filming that scene.

lol kit so short

Damn I was bawling at that point already. This really brought out the feels. Seriously. How beautiful was it to see the two least likely Starks hugging as if their lives depended on it? Sansa has been through hell and back and well... so has Jon. I loved how she said "Where do we go now?" 

Man I can just start feeling tears all over again. I gotta do my re-watch with a handkerchief this time, I had no tissues! 

Saw this in my Twitter feed, too sleepy to figure out where that shadowing/mirroring thread is.

I'm a little confused that many people read the Tyrion negotiations in Meereen this episode as some sort of mistake. I think what they are demonstrating is that Tyrion is an extremely smart politician and that he is the first person linked to Dany that is going to actually accomplish something that would (in theory) work as a longterm solution in Slaver's Bay.

Tyrion was right in pointing out that Dany's strategy was to abolish slavery without providing a viable alternative to the region regarding how they were going to recoup their losses (since slavery is their primary industry). We all know that in the show and books, Dany isn't going to leave Slaver's Bay as a slave-free zone where everyone says "thanks for fixing everything, now get yourself to Westeros!" It's going to be a mess that she's going to have to more or less abandon or destroy.

Tyrion is bringing politics to an area and compromise whereby Dany's ultimate goal of abolishing slavery can actually realistically occur. Missandei and Grey Worm are objecting to this course because of their deeply rooted interests and because they aren't especially bright when it comes to politics. That's understandable.

Now it could happen that Tyrion's offer might not have an effect and the Slavers decide to try and take down Meereen anyways because they're selfish dicks, but Tyrion knows that this is the best play in a situation where they are hopelessly outnumbered and outgunned. He's also just trying to stall for time until Dany comes back and this is the best way to do so. They need the SotH shut down and cutting off their support and funding in the short term makes this an achievable goal.

I think it's weird that so many people think that Tyrion somehow needs some kind of comeuppance here. He is the smartest guy in the room (this is always the case in the books too) and they need to demonstrate this every once and a while.

+points for Missandei taking Tyrion down a peg or two. "You were a slave for how long?" What a dick.
RIP Osha
Loved all the Kings Landing stuff too. I can finally see the Mad Queen surfacing