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Post by Nezzer on Apr 25, 2016 9:19:44 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2016 9:20:07 GMT
Although that might be wishful thinking on my part.  D&D not mentioning the SS ever again that is. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2016 9:20:22 GMT
I don't know if this has been discussed yet, but it seems that Obara and Nym are in King's Landing now. In that establishing shot before Trystane's death the boat was still in the same place where it was when Jaime got off. I wonder if they'll be part of the KL storyline or if they'll just go back to Dorne. I wouldn't be too surprised if D&D just don't mention them again until Dany lands in Westeros.  I'm just hoping that ship sinks to the bottom of Blackwater Bay somehow. |
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Post by Nezzer on Apr 25, 2016 9:21:49 GMT
I wouldn't be too surprised if D&D just don't mention them again until Dany lands in Westeros. I'm just hoping that ship sinks to the bottom of Blackwater Bay somehow. Can't sink a jetpack, though... |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2016 9:22:35 GMT
I wouldn't be too surprised if D&D just don't mention them again until Dany lands in Westeros. I'm just hoping that ship sinks to the bottom of Blackwater Bay somehow. Blackwater Bay has seen the deaths of many brave men. The Sand Snakes are not worthy of that. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2016 9:22:54 GMT
I'm just hoping that ship sinks to the bottom of Blackwater Bay somehow. Can't sink a jetpack, though... Speaking of jet packs, no mention of LF at all. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2016 9:35:02 GMT
I don't really understand the need for spoiler tags in a post episode thread. Why would people be in here that haven't seen the episode?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2016 9:37:43 GMT
I don't really understand the need for spoiler tags in a post episode thread. Why would people be in here that haven't seen the episode? It would be for referring to shooting info and leaks and the like. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2016 9:42:25 GMT
Well....that was interesting.
I have to say the biggest surprise of the episode was Dorne. Book readers have plenty of hints about Mel's age, we knew Brienne would come to the rescue, etc. But the murder of Doran and Trystane! Don't think anyone saw that coming. Until I watched, I though maybe Trystane would head to Meereen to try to make an alliance with Dany, and pick up some similarities to the Dornish book plot. Now it seems that Dorne is the most off-book place in the GOT world, start to finish. It is not that nothing can be learned about where the book story might go from the show, but only with a great deal of imagination and speculation. Nothing at all directly corresponds.
The impact of events in Dorne is huge even if you don't like how the Dornish storyline has been executed. Doran is dead without heirs. The Sand Snakes are popular in Dorne we know, but I very much doubt any of them can actually lead Dorne, if only because not a single one of them would submit to being ruled by any of the others. I think they all go on missions elsewhere (KL, Meereen, Oldtown). I would think this means there must be some character who steps in who is an ally of the Sand Snakes but with more legitimacy. Maybe Ellaria marries them and gains a leadership role that way. Hard to say. In the show she is clearly the leader of the Sand Snakes, but she has zero claim when it comes to leading Dorne even if her daughters have claims.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2016 9:48:32 GMT
Well....that was interesting. I have to say the biggest surprise of the episode was Dorne. Book readers have plenty of hints about Mel's age, we knew Brienne would come to the rescue, etc. But the murder of Doran and Trystane! Don't think anyone saw that coming. Until I watched, I though maybe Trystane would head to Meereen to try to make an alliance with Dany, and pick up some similarities to the Dornish book plot. Now it seems that Dorne is the most off-book place in the GOT world, start to finish. It is not that nothing can be learned about where the book story might go from the show, but only with a great deal of imagination and speculation. Nothing at all directly corresponds. The impact of events in Dorne is huge even if you don't like how the Dornish storyline has been executed. Doran is dead without heirs. The Sand Snakes are popular in Dorne we know, but I very much doubt any of them can actually lead Dorne, if only because not a single one of them would submit to being ruled by any of the others. I think they all go on missions elsewhere (KL, Meereen, Oldtown). I would think this means there must be some character who steps in who is an ally of the Sand Snakes but with more legitimacy. Maybe Ellaria marries them and gains a leadership role that way. Hard to say. In the show she is clearly the leader of the Sand Snakes, but she has zero claim when it comes to leading Dorne even if her daughters have claims. i think she'll legitimise Tyene and the sandsnakes adn Ellaria will all rule together. But i'm not sure if that was a 'closing' scene and if Dorne will be revisited much if, at all for the rest of the season. The Iron Islands will take its place in terms of screentime. |
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Post by Nezzer on Apr 25, 2016 9:49:29 GMT
Can we please give some attention to the brilliant end credits music?
I really, really, really, really, really hope this ends up being UnJon's (AKA Stannis 2.0) personal theme. It's mostly a variation o the LoL theme, but the beginning reminds me of the wildling themes and the end reminds me a bit of the Stark theme. At the very least it should be played during Jon's resurrection scene.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2016 9:54:26 GMT
Can we please give some attention to the brilliant end credits music? I really, really, really, really, really hope this ends up being UnJon's (AKA Stannis 2.0) personal theme. It's mostly a variation o the LoL theme, but the beginning reminds me of the wildling themes and the end reminds me a bit of the Stark theme. At the very least it should be played during Jon's resurrection scene. I'm all for a darker Jon, but please don't have him come back and burn Arya or Sam.  |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2016 9:59:20 GMT
Okay Nym and Obara being on that ship still makes no sense to me. And Doran was walking LOL
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Post by boojam on Apr 25, 2016 10:03:21 GMT
So I guess the Maester in the Ramsay scene was the Submissive Maester from the casting calls, right? Even George does it. There will be a Maester número uno , he may get killed, then popping out of the woodwork is second string Maester. Where did he come from?.... Maester-in-a-Box? |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2016 10:04:00 GMT
Okay Nym and Obara being on that ship still makes no sense to me. And Doran was walking LOL Guess his gout wasn't too bad on the show.  |
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Post by boojam on Apr 25, 2016 10:05:58 GMT
I don't really understand the need for spoiler tags in a post episode thread. Why would people be in here that haven't seen the episode? It would be for referring to shooting info and leaks and the like. Shooting and leaks info for future episodes? Not the aired one? |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2016 10:10:14 GMT
Okay Nym and Obara being on that ship still makes no sense to me. And Doran was walking LOL he was walking buy he still needed help from ellaria. |
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Post by boojam on Apr 25, 2016 10:11:35 GMT
Okay Nym and Obara being on that ship still makes no sense to me. And Doran was walking LOL We have seen this before , D&D will have sequences they concentrate on and then story narrative that they don't care about or are tired of they just fluff out. I am thinking about the mess they cooked up for Qarth in S2 , they didn't want to put in the hard work imagination to fix up a difficult narrative in the books so they just coasted. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 25, 2016 10:12:07 GMT
Okay Nym and Obara being on that ship still makes no sense to me. And Doran was walking LOL he was walking buy he still needed help from ellaria. True. They always made a point of showing him sitting down last season. |
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Post by boojam on Apr 25, 2016 10:15:06 GMT
Okay Nym and Obara being on that ship still makes no sense to me. And Doran was walking LOL Guess his gout wasn't too bad on the show. Noticed that, I guess they wanted a 'different' framing, I guess? I don't think Deobia Oparei said a single word , picked up his check and went home. |
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