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Post by 7timesdamnedshewolf on Apr 14, 2016 4:50:46 GMT
He also agrees with Rickon being handed over to Ramsay once the Umbers declare their allegiance to the Boltons. I don't like this!  The part I didn't like is his correction about Ramsay's death. Being fed to his own hounds is fitting, but Jon sparing him earlier because he doesn't want to kill him in front of Sansa is stupid and super lame. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 14, 2016 11:52:50 GMT
I don't like this! The part I didn't like is his correction about Ramsay's death. Being fed to his own hounds is fitting, but Jon sparing him earlier because he doesn't want to kill him in front of Sansa is stupid and super lame. Ramsay fucking raped her. Why would Jon think that Sansa doesn't want to see his death? |
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Post by day dreamer on Apr 14, 2016 11:56:51 GMT
What is this Battle of the Bastards shit? It's SNOWBOWL, damn it!   |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 14, 2016 12:00:20 GMT
What is this Battle of the Bastards shit? It's SNOWBOWL, damn it! We're the only cool kids that came up with a far more clever name for it. Everyone at reddit and westeros.org and WotW call it Bastardbowl and that's just lame so we'll just be exclusive here.  |
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Post by day dreamer on Apr 14, 2016 12:12:47 GMT
I really hope that bit about Jon not wanting to kill Ramsay in front of Sansa is bullshit. 1) She'd want to see that death, and 2) If she can't handle Ramsay being killed in front of her how she is going to have a hand in Littlefinger's death as well.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 14, 2016 12:15:59 GMT
I really hope that bit about Jon not wanting to kill Ramsay in front of Sansa is bullshit. 1) She'd want to see that death, and 2) If she can't handle Ramsay being killed in front of her how she is going to have a hand in Littlefinger's death as well. The only thing I can think of is that Ramsay says or does something that makes Jon change his mind about killing him at that point and we don't know why. The person reporting these leaks could just be flat out wrong. |
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Post by 7timesdamnedshewolf on Apr 15, 2016 5:57:36 GMT
I really hope that bit about Jon not wanting to kill Ramsay in front of Sansa is bullshit. 1) She'd want to see that death, and 2) If she can't handle Ramsay being killed in front of her how she is going to have a hand in Littlefinger's death as well. Yep, that's the important part. If this is true it makes her s5 sl even worse. |
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Post by Nezzer on Apr 15, 2016 6:10:33 GMT
I really hope that bit about Jon not wanting to kill Ramsay in front of Sansa is bullshit. 1) She'd want to see that death, and 2) If she can't handle Ramsay being killed in front of her how she is going to have a hand in Littlefinger's death as well. Yep, that's the important part. If this is true it makes her s5 sl even worse. Yeah, six seasons in and Sansa can't stand the sight of blood not even from her worst enemies, what the fuck? |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 15, 2016 6:14:54 GMT
Yep, that's the important part. If this is true it makes her s5 sl even worse. Yeah, six seasons in and Sansa can't stand the sight of blood not even from her worst enemies, what the fuck? I'm not sure if that leak's accurate but I imagine it would be Jon assuming she wouldn't want to see that, not her saying she didn't want to see it. |
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Post by 7timesdamnedshewolf on Apr 15, 2016 7:05:26 GMT
then she should fucking correct him, shouldn't she?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 15, 2016 7:11:30 GMT
then she should fucking correct him, shouldn't she? I imagine that's where the dogs come in. But Ramsay's death seems to be something none of these people posting about the Snowbowl have any sort of a consensus about, so for now I won't lean towards any particular account of it. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 15, 2016 11:18:20 GMT
Yeah, six seasons in and Sansa can't stand the sight of blood not even from her worst enemies, what the fuck? I'm not sure if that leak's accurate but I imagine it would be Jon assuming she wouldn't want to see that, not her saying she didn't want to see it. But why the fuck would he assume that? |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 15, 2016 11:25:25 GMT
I'm not sure if that leak's accurate but I imagine it would be Jon assuming she wouldn't want to see that, not her saying she didn't want to see it. But why the fuck would he assume that? Well not everybody wants to see people who've done horrible things to them die in person. I guess the assumption would be the one Jorah made about Dany that she has "a gentle heart" or whatever. But btw doesn't this 4chan guy describe a different death for Rams than the reddit one? He said Jon beats him to death with a shield IIRC. And we're supposed to think they're the same person? This is all confusing. |
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Post by day dreamer on Apr 15, 2016 11:59:02 GMT
Dany also told Jorah she was going to watch though, Sansa better say the same to Jon. She can't very well be Queen in the North if she lets people speak for her like that.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 15, 2016 12:06:50 GMT
But why the fuck would he assume that? Well not everybody wants to see people who've done horrible things to them die in person. I guess the assumption would be the one Jorah made about Dany that she has "a gentle heart" or whatever. But btw doesn't this 4chan guy describe a different death for Rams than the reddit one? He said Jon beats him to death with a shield IIRC. And we're supposed to think they're the same person? This is all confusing. Hounds ripping him apart would ve great. Earlier, when I thought that Roose would kill Rams, I expected him (Roose) to escape Stannis/Jon, but get killed by a pack of wolves. Which would've been fitting, given that he hunted wolves in ACoK. I still wonder what Roose's plan for the future of House Bolton is. Giving both the Dreadfort and Winterfell to Ramsay is not it. Most likely he intended Sansa to get pregnant, and after her son is born, Ramsay could easily be killed. His line in ADwD "Boy lord is the bane of any house", I believe that's just a way to tempt Rams to a false sense of security, as Roose knows that Theon will report everything he says to Ramsay. Ultimately, his plans won't matter, as they both will die. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 15, 2016 20:40:27 GMT
Well not everybody wants to see people who've done horrible things to them die in person. I guess the assumption would be the one Jorah made about Dany that she has "a gentle heart" or whatever. But btw doesn't this 4chan guy describe a different death for Rams than the reddit one? He said Jon beats him to death with a shield IIRC. And we're supposed to think they're the same person? This is all confusing. Hounds ripping him apart would ve great. Earlier, when I thought that Roose would kill Rams, I expected him (Roose) to escape Stannis/Jon, but get killed by a pack of wolves. Which would've been fitting, given that he hunted wolves in ACoK. I still wonder what Roose's plan for the future of House Bolton is. Giving both the Dreadfort and Winterfell to Ramsay is not it. Most likely he intended Sansa to get pregnant, and after her son is born, Ramsay could easily be killed. His line in ADwD "Boy lord is the bane of any house", I believe that's just a way to tempt Rams to a false sense of security, as Roose knows that Theon will report everything he says to Ramsay. Ultimately, his plans won't matter, as they both will die. Roose has a plan, but he's going to get outmatched this season, for the first and last time. His plan about the continuity of house Bolton is interesting. I think he didn't try to trick Ramsay in that one. He might be speaking the truth. He probably hopes that he could control Ramsay in some way, but I guess he has realized that this is impossible. The plan B probably is to wait until Sansa would give birth to Ramsay's son and then get rid of Ramsay if he proves to be a liability. I just hope that Ramsay doesn't kill Roose, since this would portray Roose in a slightly careless light. ..and to hype S6, I have changed my avatar and signature to something more recent. |
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Post by 7timesdamnedshewolf on Apr 16, 2016 2:44:26 GMT
But why the fuck would he assume that? Well not everybody wants to see people who've done horrible things to them die in person. I guess the assumption would be the one Jorah made about Dany that she has "a gentle heart" or whatever. But btw doesn't this 4chan guy describe a different death for Rams than the reddit one? He said Jon beats him to death with a shield IIRC. And we're supposed to think they're the same person? This is all confusing. no, the 4chan guy said the hounds ate rams first, then added the jon not killing him in front of sansa bit on reddit. pretty sure he's dr. mantistobogan, not the extra with the deleted snowbowl post. isn't that the same snowbowl pic dmt claimed to be the source of? |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 16, 2016 5:30:23 GMT
Well not everybody wants to see people who've done horrible things to them die in person. I guess the assumption would be the one Jorah made about Dany that she has "a gentle heart" or whatever. But btw doesn't this 4chan guy describe a different death for Rams than the reddit one? He said Jon beats him to death with a shield IIRC. And we're supposed to think they're the same person? This is all confusing. no, the 4chan guy said the hounds ate rams first, then added the jon not killing him in front of sansa bit on reddit. pretty sure he's dr. mantistobogan, not the extra with the deleted snowbowl post. isn't that the same snowbowl pic dmt claimed to be the source of? I don't recall. I'll just leave it to Al and Archie to make sense of all of this because  |
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Post by freypies on Apr 20, 2016 16:52:50 GMT
What do you guys think of the way the battle is described in general? Some people on reddit are saying that it sounds too cliche from the leak, but it sounds pretty tactical and interesting to me.
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Post by Nezzer on Apr 20, 2016 21:11:48 GMT
What do you guys think of the way the battle is described in general? Some people on reddit are saying that it sounds too cliche from the leak, but it sounds pretty tactical and interesting to me. I'm just worried about the Starks being outnumberted 6 to 1, that's just stupid. Littlefinger pulling a Tywin and saving the Starks is gonna leave a bad taste in my mouth, but eh it's not a big deal. |
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