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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2015 22:44:27 GMT
I'm really hoping Arya is in this episode.
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Post by Enid on May 23, 2015 22:48:16 GMT
I'm really hoping Arya is in this episode. Me too, but I think she won't be |
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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2015 22:48:24 GMT
I'm really hoping Arya is in this episode. Since this episode will definitely have the most main characters, the chance of Arya appearing is becoming more unlikely. She's not in the promo, the promo photos, the Inside the episode, or the synopsis. And it is kind of disappointing since we've only seen her in 3 episodes so far, but I'm pretty sure she'll be in the last 3. |
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Post by Paid Debt Lannister on May 23, 2015 22:48:53 GMT
The writing has been getting worse through the seasons, I guess. This has nothing to do with book/show comparisons, just that, well, Yara's attack on the Dreadfort, Crazy Dany giving people away as food then "proposing" to Hizdahr, Olly scenes, Loras's birthmark and fricking DORNE are all from more recent seasons. Seasons 1, 2 and 3 has has their problems (I'm looking at you, Qarth) but their plots were more consistent and were easier to get involved with. Don't get me wrong, though. The show is still very enjoyable.
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Post by Paid Debt Lannister on May 23, 2015 22:49:39 GMT
I'm really hoping Arya is in this episode. Judging by its name, I'd guess she is in, but yeah the odds are against ir by now... |
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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2015 22:52:12 GMT
The writing has been getting worse through the seasons, I guess. This has nothing to do with book/show comparisons, just that, well, Yara's attack on the Dreadfort, Crazy Dany giving people away as food then "proposing" to Hizdahr, Olly scenes, Loras's birthmark and fricking DORNE are all from more recent seasons. Seasons 1, 2 and 3 has has their problems (I'm looking at you, Qarth) but their plots were more consistent and were easier to get involved with. Don't get me wrong, though. The show is still very enjoyable. I think the season so far is definitely stronger than Season 2, but compared to the others I'll wait until it's over. Considering what we know about the last 3 episodes, this season could turn out being one of the best. |
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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2015 22:55:34 GMT
I'm really hoping Arya is in this episode. Since this episode will definitely have the most main characters, the chance of Arya appearing is becoming more unlikely. She's not in the promo, the promo photos, the Inside the episode, or the synopsis. And it is kind of disappointing since we've only seen her in 3 episodes so far, but I'm pretty sure she'll be in the last 3. If she's not in 507 I can't believe she's not even in half the season so far. What do you think she'll be doing in 510? |
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Post by Paid Debt Lannister on May 23, 2015 22:57:04 GMT
The writing has been getting worse through the seasons, I guess. This has nothing to do with book/show comparisons, just that, well, Yara's attack on the Dreadfort, Crazy Dany giving people away as food then "proposing" to Hizdahr, Olly scenes, Loras's birthmark and fricking DORNE are all from more recent seasons. Seasons 1, 2 and 3 has has their problems (I'm looking at you, Qarth) but their plots were more consistent and were easier to get involved with. Don't get me wrong, though. The show is still very enjoyable. I think the season so far is definitely stronger than Season 2, but compared to the others I'll wait until it's over. Considering what we know about the last 3 episodes, this season could turn out being one of the best. Yes, as far as we know this season can still turn out as one of the best. It all depends on how these so expected scenes will be translated to TV (Hardhome, Daznak, WoS, FTW, Varys coming back, Tyrion meeting Dany... the cherry on this cake would be milady SH) |
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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2015 23:00:11 GMT
I think the season so far is definitely stronger than Season 2, but compared to the others I'll wait until it's over. Considering what we know about the last 3 episodes, this season could turn out being one of the best. Yes, as far as we know this season can still turn out as one of the best. It all depends on how these so expected scenes will be translated to TV (Hardhome, Daznak, WoS, FTW, Varys coming back, Tyrion meeting Dany... the cherry on this cake would be milady SH) I'm confident that Hardhome is going to be amazing and I feel good about the WoS. I'm still very iffy about Daznak. We'll see how it turns out. I'm also very curious how they will close out 510 and the Season. Varys offing Kevan will not do it for me. You also forgot to include Mercy. |
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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2015 23:01:42 GMT
I'm really hoping Arya is in this episode. I'd doubt it. I think Arya's training will mostly be off screen, so we can progress to badass assassin next series. I almost definitely see her scene with Ser Meryn Trant in episode 10 since that is almost inevitable at this point. |
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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2015 23:04:18 GMT
The writing has been getting worse through the seasons, I guess. This has nothing to do with book/show comparisons, just that, well, Yara's attack on the Dreadfort, Crazy Dany giving people away as food then "proposing" to Hizdahr, Olly scenes, Loras's birthmark and fricking DORNE are all from more recent seasons. Seasons 1, 2 and 3 has has their problems (I'm looking at you, Qarth) but their plots were more consistent and were easier to get involved with. Don't get me wrong, though. The show is still very enjoyable. Really though, almost everything you list there is what, 15 minutes of screen time? Every show has bad stuff in it. Even the Sopranos had some straight up terrible episodes. And I still don't get why people hate Olly so much, especially this season. |
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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2015 23:05:47 GMT
The writing has been getting worse through the seasons, I guess. This has nothing to do with book/show comparisons, just that, well, Yara's attack on the Dreadfort, Crazy Dany giving people away as food then "proposing" to Hizdahr, Olly scenes, Loras's birthmark and fricking DORNE are all from more recent seasons. Seasons 1, 2 and 3 has has their problems (I'm looking at you, Qarth) but their plots were more consistent and were easier to get involved with. Don't get me wrong, though. The show is still very enjoyable. Really though, almost everything you list there is what, 15 minutes of screen time? Every show has bad stuff in it. Even the Sopranos had some straight up terrible episodes. And I still don't get why people hate Olly so much, especially this season. Speaking of The Sopranos it didn't really click for me until Season 2. So yeah I agree. |
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Post by Deleted on May 23, 2015 23:13:59 GMT
The Sopranos is one of my favourite shows, and I loved it throughout the run. But it has episodes that were straight up terrible, like the one about Columbus Day, and whole story lines that didn't work, like Vito in New Hampshire. Hell, I'm a huge fan of Star Trek: Deep Space Nine, but it's got whole seasons that are awful, and even then it's patchy. But it takes quite a bit more than few small examples to demonstrate to me which seasons are the worst, especially when we're talking 10+ hours of footage.
I really don't think there's been a noticeable decline in quality with Game of Thrones. People hold up Season 1 as televised perfection, but it still has some of the clunkiest exposition ever, and dreadful scenes like "play with her arse". Yet it was still a great season of television.
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Post by Paid Debt Lannister on May 23, 2015 23:14:06 GMT
Yes, as far as we know this season can still turn out as one of the best. It all depends on how these so expected scenes will be translated to TV (Hardhome, Daznak, WoS, FTW, Varys coming back, Tyrion meeting Dany... the cherry on this cake would be milady SH) I'm confident that Hardhome is going to be amazing and I feel good about the WoS. I'm still very iffy about Daznak. We'll see how it turns out. I'm also very curious how they will close out 510 and the Season. Varys offing Kevan will not do it for me. You also forgot to include Mercy. Oh yeah, there is also Mercy. Maybe more things even |
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Post by Paid Debt Lannister on May 23, 2015 23:17:34 GMT
The writing has been getting worse through the seasons, I guess. This has nothing to do with book/show comparisons, just that, well, Yara's attack on the Dreadfort, Crazy Dany giving people away as food then "proposing" to Hizdahr, Olly scenes, Loras's birthmark and fricking DORNE are all from more recent seasons. Seasons 1, 2 and 3 has has their problems (I'm looking at you, Qarth) but their plots were more consistent and were easier to get involved with. Don't get me wrong, though. The show is still very enjoyable. Really though, almost everything you list there is what, 15 minutes of screen time? Every show has bad stuff in it. Even the Sopranos had some straight up terrible episodes. And I still don't get why people hate Olly so much, especially this season. Well, like I said we are talking about Thrones, a very enjoyable and with a high-quality show. Those scenes are short but they are present. Season 1 for example had many less (or fewer, I don't know, English is not my first language and after the Stannis lesson I got confused with this) of them, that's why I said there has been a decline. By no means I said it is bad. I am just evaluating it with the high standards that season 1 has set from the beginninng. |
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Post by Nezzer on May 23, 2015 23:21:41 GMT
The Sopranos is one of my favourite shows, and I loved it throughout the run. But it has episodes that were straight up terrible, like the one about Columbus Day, and whole story lines that didn't work, like Vito in New Hampshire. Hell, I'm a huge fan of Star Trek: Deep Space Nine, but it's got whole seasons that are awful, and even then it's patchy. But it takes quite a bit more than few small examples to demonstrate to me which seasons are the worst, especially when we're talking 10+ hours of footage. I really don't think there's been a noticeable decline in quality with Game of Thrones. People hold up Season 1 as televised perfection, but it still has some of the clunkiest exposition ever, and dreadful scenes like "play with her arse". Yet it was still a great season of television. Yesterday I rewatched the scene of LF leading Ned to his brothel to meet Cat, when LF says "Ah, the Starks. Quick tempers, slow minds". I hadn't noticed until now how bad and clunky that line was, as if he was talking to the camera. |
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Post by Paid Debt Lannister on May 23, 2015 23:28:34 GMT
The Sopranos is one of my favourite shows, and I loved it throughout the run. But it has episodes that were straight up terrible, like the one about Columbus Day, and whole story lines that didn't work, like Vito in New Hampshire. Hell, I'm a huge fan of Star Trek: Deep Space Nine, but it's got whole seasons that are awful, and even then it's patchy. But it takes quite a bit more than few small examples to demonstrate to me which seasons are the worst, especially when we're talking 10+ hours of footage. I really don't think there's been a noticeable decline in quality with Game of Thrones. People hold up Season 1 as televised perfection, but it still has some of the clunkiest exposition ever, and dreadful scenes like "play with her arse". Yet it was still a great season of television. Yesterday I rewatched the scene of LF leading Ned to his brothel to meet Cat, when LF says "Ah, the Starks. Quick tempers, slow minds". I hadn't noticed until now how bad and clunky that line was, as if he was talking to the camera. Thank the Gods he had his normal voice by then. Imagine Irish Littlefinger breaking the fourth wall |
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Post by metopheles on May 24, 2015 0:52:39 GMT
I really hate that Olly kid. Just seeing him take up a second of screen time infuriates me.
Changes, okay do it. You want to try to make own lines so you can say you are a writer and not just a copier. But that kid. That stupid horrible actor. And how his character came to be. No. Just no. He doesn't fit at all in either the book or show universe.
That decision to keep him instead of just giving the steward position to Sam or Edd or whoever.
Such a wonderful story reduced to a travesty of cliche and childishness.
They have tons of wonderful characters but burn them or cut them in favour of their own creations. Extras that just missed their ride home and now are stuck there.
Sorry for the rant.
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Post by Enid on May 24, 2015 0:58:00 GMT
What has Olly done to deserve such hate?
The poor kid saw his family die after cannibal wildings attacked his village, he joined the watch, killed Ygritte (because she was the enemy), and was named Jon's steward.
And sometimes he nods. He must have had like five lines of dialogue, and some people treat him like he is Joffrey 2.0
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Post by King Tommen on May 24, 2015 1:13:57 GMT
I don't get it either. And it's not like Jon doesn't have a kid steward in the books. Just pretend he's Satin and he's been given a little bit more to do and you can fit it into "adapted character" column as opposed to "made up character".
He's literally had 3 lines on the show.
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