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Post by Nezzer on Apr 2, 2016 15:51:55 GMT
I thnk it's the same interview, but I don't remember seeing anything about the Boltons going to CB. Maybe there's no Pink Letter, only Ramsay talking to Jon face to face. Based on the other info the reddit poster translated, it's definitely the same interview we were all trying to figure out earlier with some additional (probably wrong) translations. The thing about Chinese is, because it's such a huge region of the world, there's so many dialects that words can often mean 6 different things depending on the context it's used in. Even other Chinese people misinterpret the written language when it's from somewhere else. I wouldn't put a whole lot of weight into those translations because you could ask 10 different Chinese people and get 10 different answers. However! That being said ... I have wondered how Ramday delivers his line "Winterfell is mine, come and see" in any way that makes sense to Jon if that's in fact who he is saying it to. While that's clearly great "pink letter" type material, how would Jon read it and hear Ramsay's voice saying it - they've never met. It would come across hokey to me. I don't know the proper terms filmmakers use, but they could make some kind of montage similar to Yara's scene telling Balon she's going to march on the Dreadfort, starting with Ramsay "writing" (as in telling his maester what to write) the letter, the raven being sent and ending it with Jon reading it, with Ramsay's voice over the entire montage. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 2, 2016 15:55:31 GMT
I thnk it's the same interview, but I don't remember seeing anything about the Boltons going to CB. Maybe there's no Pink Letter, only Ramsay talking to Jon face to face. Based on the other info the reddit poster translated, it's definitely the same interview we were all trying to figure out earlier with some additional (probably wrong) translations. The thing about Chinese is, because it's such a huge region of the world, there's so many dialects that words can often mean 6 different things depending on the context it's used in. Even other Chinese people misinterpret the written language when it's from somewhere else. I wouldn't put a whole lot of weight into those translations because you could ask 10 different Chinese people and get 10 different answers. However! That being said ... I have wondered how Ramday delivers his line "Winterfell is mine, come and see" in any way that makes sense to Jon if that's in fact who he is saying it to. While that's clearly great "pink letter" type material, how would Jon read it and hear Ramsay's voice saying it - they've never met. It would come across hokey to me. Yara and Balon had never met Ramsay either. Jon wouldn't hear Ramsay's voice, it would just be a way to show who wrote the letter. |
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Post by Nezzer on Apr 2, 2016 17:08:57 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Apr 2, 2016 17:10:36 GMT
 I just translated the interview into English. The video is only the promo of S6. There is only one mention about Castle Black and all it says is "More importantly, the illegitimate son of the war occurred at Castle Black rather than Winterfell." There is nothing about the Boltons going there. Fuck Mandarin  Actually I missed this part, "Liam if the large amount of information: "In addition, Burton and his son's situation similar to ours, they also face the threat of cold winter with a heterologous ghost Bolton lost the legal right to rule the Northern Territory, also came to the black castle (this. Department spoilers! illegitimate child of war occurred in the black castle!), while Bolton and his son's position has become strange, since they are the only twenty-two still do not respect each other in this threat, the role of mistrust, but no time to deal with other issues." This is a weird translation. |
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Post by Nezzer on Apr 2, 2016 17:14:17 GMT
Fuck Mandarin Actually I missed this part, "Liam if the large amount of information: "In addition, Burton and his son's situation similar to ours, they also face the threat of cold winter with a heterologous ghost Bolton lost the legal right to rule the Northern Territory, also came to the black castle (this. Department spoilers! illegitimate child of war occurred in the black castle!), while Bolton and his son's position has become strange, since they are the only twenty-two still do not respect each other in this threat, the role of mistrust, but no time to deal with other issues." This is a weird translation. Why did you edit my post?  |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 2, 2016 17:15:02 GMT
Actually I missed this part, "Liam if the large amount of information: "In addition, Burton and his son's situation similar to ours, they also face the threat of cold winter with a heterologous ghost Bolton lost the legal right to rule the Northern Territory, also came to the black castle (this. Department spoilers! illegitimate child of war occurred in the black castle!), while Bolton and his son's position has become strange, since they are the only twenty-two still do not respect each other in this threat, the role of mistrust, but no time to deal with other issues." This is a weird translation. Why did you edit my post? Sorry.  I realized I was an idiot and missed part of the interview. |
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Post by Nezzer on Apr 2, 2016 17:16:40 GMT
Why did you edit my post? Sorry. I realized I was an idiot and missed part of the interview. At any rate, I'd still say "Fuck Chinese/Mandarin"  |
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Post by Nezzer on Apr 2, 2016 17:19:21 GMT
Fuck Mandarin Actually I missed this part, "Liam if the large amount of information: "In addition, Burton and his son's situation similar to ours, they also face the threat of cold winter with a heterologous ghost Bolton lost the legal right to rule the Northern Territory, also came to the black castle (this. Department spoilers! illegitimate child of war occurred in the black castle!), while Bolton and his son's position has become strange, since they are the only twenty-two still do not respect each other in this threat, the role of mistrust, but no time to deal with other issues." This is a weird translation. So maybe it does happen. Still can't understand shit  |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 2, 2016 17:20:47 GMT
Actually I missed this part, "Liam if the large amount of information: "In addition, Burton and his son's situation similar to ours, they also face the threat of cold winter with a heterologous ghost Bolton lost the legal right to rule the Northern Territory, also came to the black castle (this. Department spoilers! illegitimate child of war occurred in the black castle!), while Bolton and his son's position has become strange, since they are the only twenty-two still do not respect each other in this threat, the role of mistrust, but no time to deal with other issues." This is a weird translation. So maybe it does happen. Still can't understand shit Though if they were interviewing Michael and Iwan, why would they just randomly say that they go to Castle Black? Although this one part is from Liam apparently, so who knows. |
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Post by Nezzer on Apr 2, 2016 17:24:27 GMT
So maybe it does happen. Still can't understand shit Though if they were interviewing Michael and Iwan, why would they just randomly say that they go to Castle Black? Although this one part is from Liam apparently, so who knows. They said Liam Cunningham said this and that he let out a bunch of information, not Mike and Iwan. Get your shit together Al |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 2, 2016 18:58:40 GMT
Based on the other info the reddit poster translated, it's definitely the same interview we were all trying to figure out earlier with some additional (probably wrong) translations. The thing about Chinese is, because it's such a huge region of the world, there's so many dialects that words can often mean 6 different things depending on the context it's used in. Even other Chinese people misinterpret the written language when it's from somewhere else. I wouldn't put a whole lot of weight into those translations because you could ask 10 different Chinese people and get 10 different answers. However! That being said ... I have wondered how Ramday delivers his line "Winterfell is mine, come and see" in any way that makes sense to Jon if that's in fact who he is saying it to. While that's clearly great "pink letter" type material, how would Jon read it and hear Ramsay's voice saying it - they've never met. It would come across hokey to me. I don't know the proper terms filmmakers use, but they could make some kind of montage similar to Yara's scene telling Balon she's going to march on the Dreadfort, starting with Ramsay "writing" (as in telling his maester what to write) the letter, the raven being sent and ending it with Jon reading it, with Ramsay's voice over the entire montage. There was also the scenes from "High Sparrow" where Cersei tells Qyburn to send her letter addressed to Littlefinger to the Eyrie and then in the next scene we see Sansa walking through the courtyard, Littlefinger talking to Ramsay, and Roose telling Littlefinger that he's received the letter as there was a rider in the night who delivered it to Winterfell. So they could do something similar with Ramsay sending the pink letter to Jon. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 2, 2016 19:11:52 GMT
I don't know the proper terms filmmakers use, but they could make some kind of montage similar to Yara's scene telling Balon she's going to march on the Dreadfort, starting with Ramsay "writing" (as in telling his maester what to write) the letter, the raven being sent and ending it with Jon reading it, with Ramsay's voice over the entire montage. There was also the scenes from "High Sparrow" where Cersei tells Qyburn to send her letter addressed to Littlefinger to the Eyrie and then in the next scene we see Sansa walking through the courtyard, Littlefinger talking to Ramsay, and Roose telling Littlefinger that he's received the letter as there was a rider in the night who delivered it to Winterfell. So they could do something similar with Ramsay sending the pink letter to Jon. That part I never understood. Why not just send it to Winterfell from the Eyrie? |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 2, 2016 19:20:11 GMT
There was also the scenes from "High Sparrow" where Cersei tells Qyburn to send her letter addressed to Littlefinger to the Eyrie and then in the next scene we see Sansa walking through the courtyard, Littlefinger talking to Ramsay, and Roose telling Littlefinger that he's received the letter as there was a rider in the night who delivered it to Winterfell. So they could do something similar with Ramsay sending the pink letter to Jon. That part I never understood. Why not just send it to Winterfell from the Eyrie? Littlefinger told Royce at Runestone that him and Sansa were going to the Fingers, but yeah doesn't make a lot of sense why they wouldn't just send a raven. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 2, 2016 19:24:35 GMT
That part I never understood. Why not just send it to Winterfell from the Eyrie? Because Littlefinger told Royce that him and Sansa were going to the Fingers. I don't think Bronze Yohn has access to the Eyrie. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 2, 2016 19:25:10 GMT
That part I never understood. Why not just send it to Winterfell from the Eyrie? Littlefinger told Royce at Runestone that him and Sansa were going to the Fingers, but yeah doesn't make a lot of sense why they wouldn't just send a raven. Haha, you Al'd. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 2, 2016 19:29:01 GMT
Littlefinger told Royce at Runestone that him and Sansa were going to the Fingers, but yeah doesn't make a lot of sense why they wouldn't just send a raven. Haha, you Al'd. I've been fucking up a lot today after trying to understand this translated interview. |
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Post by King Tommen on Apr 2, 2016 21:31:02 GMT
That part I never understood. Why not just send it to Winterfell from the Eyrie? Littlefinger told Royce at Runestone that him and Sansa were going to the Fingers, but yeah doesn't make a lot of sense why they wouldn't just send a raven. I took it as the show trying to demonstrate that LF was attempting to keep up appearances that he was in the Eyrie for anyone in the outside world and that "rider in the night" is basically a translation for "secret messenger" for LF to have everything forwarded to him by as opposed to ravens which I guess are more of a public form of communication. It's probably not 100% logical but I think they were probably more interested in trying to get across the fact to the audience that LF being in Winterfell was on the hush hush. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 2, 2016 21:39:28 GMT
Littlefinger told Royce at Runestone that him and Sansa were going to the Fingers, but yeah doesn't make a lot of sense why they wouldn't just send a raven. I took it as the show trying to demonstrate that LF was attempting to keep up appearances that he was in the Eyrie for anyone in the outside world and that "rider in the night" is basically a translation for "secret messenger" for LF to have everything forwarded to him by as opposed to ravens which I guess are more of a public form of communication. It's probably not 100% logical but I think they were probably more interested in trying to get across the fact to the audience that LF being in Winterfell was on the hush hush. That makes sense because in S1 Luwin told Ned and Cat that there was a "rider in the night" instead of raven with a message from Lysa that said Jon Arryn was murdered by the Lannisters because she obviously didn't want anyone receiving that information. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 2, 2016 21:54:37 GMT
Anyway, I think it makes more sense for Ramsay to send a "rider in the night" to Castle Black to deliver the Pink letter directly to Jon than traveling there to face Jon. I mean Jon could read the letter and when he gets to "Winterfell is Mine. Come and see, Bastard" we hear Ramsay's voice, but you guys are right since Jon and Ramsay haven't met yet it's difficult to work around that.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 2, 2016 21:57:56 GMT
Anyway, I think it makes more sense for Ramsay to send a "rider in the night" to Castle Black to deliver the Pink letter directly to Jon than traveling there to face Jon. I mean Jon could read the letter and when he gets to "Winterfell is Mine. Come and see, Bastard" we hear Ramsay's voice, but you guys are right since Jon and Ramsay haven't met yet it's difficult to work around that. Yeah I'm thinking that awesome line is delivered by Ramsay some other way and not part of a voiceover for Jon reading the pink letter. I really want both to happen but I can't seem to figure out who he's saying that to in person. What's your best guess? Ramsay going up to the wall also doesn't really make any logistical sense. Snowbowl is coming to him, so having him travel all the way up to the wall would take a lot of time and effort just so he can taunt Jon? |
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I just translated the interview into English. The video is only the promo of S6. There is only one mention about Castle Black and all it says is "More importantly, the illegitimate son of the war occurred at Castle Black rather than Winterfell." There is nothing about the Boltons going there. 
I realized I was an idiot and missed part of the interview. 
