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Post by Deleted on Apr 2, 2016 22:07:09 GMT
Anyway, I think it makes more sense for Ramsay to send a "rider in the night" to Castle Black to deliver the Pink letter directly to Jon than traveling there to face Jon. I mean Jon could read the letter and when he gets to "Winterfell is Mine. Come and see, Bastard" we hear Ramsay's voice, but you guys are right since Jon and Ramsay haven't met yet it's difficult to work around that. Yeah I'm thinking that awesome line is delivered by Ramsay some other way and not part of a voiceover for Jon reading the pink letter. I really want both to happen but I can't seem to figure out who he's saying that to in person. What's your best guess? Ramsay going up to the wall also doesn't really make any logistical sense. Snowbowl is coming to him, so having him travel all the way up to the wall would take a lot of time and effort just so he can taunt Jon? I can only see Ramsay saying that to Jon, but it would be stupid to deliver that line at Snowbowl. So maybe they have a scene where they transition between Jon and Ramsay both reading it. I have no clue.  |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 2, 2016 22:10:39 GMT
Yeah I'm thinking that awesome line is delivered by Ramsay some other way and not part of a voiceover for Jon reading the pink letter. I really want both to happen but I can't seem to figure out who he's saying that to in person. What's your best guess? Ramsay going up to the wall also doesn't really make any logistical sense. Snowbowl is coming to him, so having him travel all the way up to the wall would take a lot of time and effort just so he can taunt Jon? I can only see Ramsay saying that to Jon, but it would be stupid to deliver that line at Snowbowl. So maybe they have a scene where they transition between Jon and Ramsay both reading it. I have no clue. Or maybe the Iwan audio was recorded just for the WF promo and it's only ever read aloud by Jon in the show.  |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 2, 2016 22:12:30 GMT
Yeah I'm thinking that awesome line is delivered by Ramsay some other way and not part of a voiceover for Jon reading the pink letter. I really want both to happen but I can't seem to figure out who he's saying that to in person. What's your best guess? Ramsay going up to the wall also doesn't really make any logistical sense. Snowbowl is coming to him, so having him travel all the way up to the wall would take a lot of time and effort just so he can taunt Jon? I can only see Ramsay saying that to Jon, but it would be stupid to deliver that line at Snowbowl. So maybe they have a scene where they transition between Jon and Ramsay both reading it. I have no clue. Could it be possible he goes to the Umbers or other Northern Lords and taunts them with this claim to Winterfell and tells them to deliver his message to Jon Snow at the wall? That way, a "verbal" form of the pink letter would get to Jon and that's when he gathers his wildling army and heads south. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 2, 2016 22:14:53 GMT
I can only see Ramsay saying that to Jon, but it would be stupid to deliver that line at Snowbowl. So maybe they have a scene where they transition between Jon and Ramsay both reading it. I have no clue. Or maybe the Iwan audio was recorded just for the WF promo and it's only ever read aloud by Jon in the show. Yeah I'm guessing that's it. I mean we do have The High Sparrow's line from the KL promo in the show and I'm sure we'll get Jhaqo's "Queen of Nothing" early in the season with Dany in Vaes Dothrak, but yeah with Ramsay's, Jon reading it aloud works better as all the characters have done that in past, Cersei reading Robb's about the independent kingdom in the North, Balon and Yara reading Ramsay's about Theon's current physical state, etc. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 2, 2016 22:16:23 GMT
I can only see Ramsay saying that to Jon, but it would be stupid to deliver that line at Snowbowl. So maybe they have a scene where they transition between Jon and Ramsay both reading it. I have no clue. Could it be possible he goes to the Umbers or other Northern Lords and taunts them with this claim to Winterfell and tells them to deliver his message to Jon Snow at the wall? That way, a "verbal" form of the pink letter would get to Jon and that's when he gathers his wildling army and heads south. Yes. We do know that Harald Karstark will be in 3 episodes, one will be Snowbowl, one I'm pretty sure will be his meeting with Ramsay and Smalljon, but the other. Hm. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 2, 2016 22:19:20 GMT
Or maybe the Iwan audio was recorded just for the WF promo and it's only ever read aloud by Jon in the show. Yeah I'm guessing that's it. I mean we do have The High Sparrow's line from the KL promo in the show and I'm sure we'll get Jhaqo's "Queen of Nothing" early in the season with Dany in Vaes Dothrak, but yeah with Ramsay's, Jon reading it aloud works better as all the characters have done that in past, Cersei reading Robb's about the independent kingdom in the North, Balon and Yara reading Ramsay's about Theon's current physical state, etc. I really think Jon may have already been reading the pink letter (or some form of it) just before Olly came into his room to lure him out. What if the timeline was purposely skewed a bit and Sansa's escape happens way before Jon's assassination? The taunting from Ramsay would have been the very last thing on Jon's mind just before he was killed and would create an even stronger vengeance theme. The pink letter and Jon abandoning his command were the real 'traitor' motivations for the Night's Watch assassinating him in the books. I am thinking maybe they try to go back to that original motivation and not just because Jon let the Wildlings through the gates. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 2, 2016 22:20:08 GMT
Yeah I'm guessing that's it. I mean we do have The High Sparrow's line from the KL promo in the show and I'm sure we'll get Jhaqo's "Queen of Nothing" early in the season with Dany in Vaes Dothrak, but yeah with Ramsay's, Jon reading it aloud works better as all the characters have done that in past, Cersei reading Robb's about the independent kingdom in the North, Balon and Yara reading Ramsay's about Theon's current physical state, etc. I really think Jon may have already been reading the pink letter (or some form of it) just before Olly came into his room to lure him out. What if the timeline was purposely skewed a bit and Sansa's escape happens way before Jon's assassination? The taunting from Ramsay would have been the very last thing on Jon's mind just before he was killed and would create an even stronger vengeance theme. The pink letter and Jon abandoning his command were the real 'traitor' motivations for the Night's Watch assassinating him in the books. I am thinking maybe they try to go back to that original motivation and not just because Jon let the Wildlings through the gates. IIRC MakingofGameofThrones showed that that letter was actually from the Faith on their behind the scenes feature for ep. 510. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 2, 2016 22:23:14 GMT
IIRC MakingofGameofThrones showed that that letter was actually from the Faith on their behind the scenes feature for ep. 510. Ah ok, I totally missed that one! Well then there goes that theory out the window. However they do it, I hope Jon gets a pink letter and I hope Ramsay also delivers his threatening invitation in person. I want to see his smug face say it.  |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 2, 2016 23:55:56 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Apr 3, 2016 0:06:00 GMT
No, his casting wasn't reported. Hard to speculate what storyline he would be a part of though. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 3, 2016 0:09:19 GMT
No, his casting wasn't reported. Hard to speculate what storyline he would be a part of though. I'm curious what they mean by "principle role". The only thing I can think of is if he's the new guy in the NK prosthetics (assuming the part's been recast as some have speculated, which I'm not sure of). |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 3, 2016 0:12:44 GMT
No, his casting wasn't reported. Hard to speculate what storyline he would be a part of though. I'm curious what they mean by "principle role". The only thing I can think of is if he's the new guy in the NK prosthetics (assuming the part's been recast as some have speculated, which I'm not sure of). I don't think he would be the recasted NK because it only lists Mylod. I imagine the NK will at least appear in a Sapochnik episode, very likely 610. |
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Post by Nezzer on Apr 3, 2016 2:14:33 GMT
No, his casting wasn't reported. Hard to speculate what storyline he would be a part of though. I'm curious what they mean by "principle role". The only thing I can think of is if he's the new guy in the NK prosthetics (assuming the part's been recast as some have speculated, which I'm not sure of). Probably another dothraki, even though he doesn't look like it... |
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Post by barristanwhitebeard on Apr 3, 2016 2:32:01 GMT
I'm curious what they mean by "principle role". The only thing I can think of is if he's the new guy in the NK prosthetics (assuming the part's been recast as some have speculated, which I'm not sure of). Probably another dothraki, even though he doesn't look like it... Mmm, I don't think he's a Dothraki. Maybe one of the Riverland Outlaws? Of course, that's not exactly a "principle role" anyway... |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 3, 2016 2:32:07 GMT
I'm curious what they mean by "principle role". The only thing I can think of is if he's the new guy in the NK prosthetics (assuming the part's been recast as some have speculated, which I'm not sure of). Probably another dothraki, even though he doesn't look like it... We don't need any more Dothraki, there's already enough. |
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Post by Nezzer on Apr 3, 2016 2:39:40 GMT
Probably another dothraki, even though he doesn't look like it... We don't need any more Dothraki, there's already enough. I was just being facetious. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 3, 2016 2:41:15 GMT
We don't need any more Dothraki, there's already enough. I was just being facetious. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 3, 2016 2:46:08 GMT
Probably another dothraki, even though he doesn't look like it... Mmm, I don't think he's a Dothraki. Maybe one of the Riverland Outlaws? Of course, that's not exactly a "principle role" anyway... Yeah I think it's likely he's part of The North or The Riverlands, but the fact that it lists only Mylod on his CV makes me question whether it really is a "principle role." |
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Post by archiechvyalthan on Apr 3, 2016 3:02:45 GMT
I think we'll totally get to hear Iwan's delivery of the Pink Letter as Jon is reading it. This would be easy to do in a montage sequence involving Ramsay, his army, and Jon. Kit reading it aloud would be a missed opportunity, his voice really isn't one of his strengths. And this letter has to be full of menace.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 3, 2016 4:27:31 GMT
Could he be the captain on the Sam's ship to Oldtown?
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