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Post by archiechvyalthan on Mar 19, 2016 20:07:32 GMT
At this point the only reason I believe Mel will survive the season is the Arya prophecy. If it weren't for that.... lol that prophecy isn't gonna mean shit. i can bet on it. i know i'm being obnoxious right now, but i just feel like people put too much faith in that scene in general. when @sati is probably right that D&D have forgotten about it by now and probably just added that line in to make mel sound mysterious anyways If nothing ever comes out of the prophecy, it will be by far the most WTF scene of the entire show Nothing on that scale has been dropped to date.
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Post by Admin on Mar 19, 2016 20:08:41 GMT
i'm not sure. she's probably gonna be heavily pregnant and it would be very hard to hide. when lena was pregnant in the season 1 pilot, she wasn't very far along. plus who knows how carice will show. not all women are lucky enough to only show in their stomachs and remain skinny everywhere else. considering 39 is generally a late age to have a kid, my guess is that this was planned. i think its much more likely that mel will die in season 6 than anything else I really don't think it was planned from what I know about their relationship. I don't want to get too gossipy, but from what I've gathered there was very little planned about any of it.
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Post by Admin on Mar 19, 2016 20:10:02 GMT
lol that prophecy isn't gonna mean shit. i can bet on it. i know i'm being obnoxious right now, but i just feel like people put too much faith in that scene in general. when @sati is probably right that D&D have forgotten about it by now and probably just added that line in to make mel sound mysterious anyways If nothing ever comes out of the prophecy, it will be by far the most WTF scene of the entire show Nothing on that scale has been dropped to date. Didn't Cersei kinda forget she had a kid with Robert on the show?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2016 20:10:18 GMT
At this point the only reason I believe Mel will survive the season is the Arya prophecy. If it weren't for that.... lol that prophecy isn't gonna mean shit. i can bet on it. i know i'm being obnoxious right now, but i just feel like people put too much faith in that scene in general. when @sati is probably right that D&D have forgotten about it by now and probably just added that line in to make mel sound mysterious anyways I disagree. I think the only reason to write that season would be some sort of foreknowledge about the two characters. Which from what we know about Arya in s6, could very well be on track to converge in s7. I also think that she will live to walk the walls of WF as she said and see Bolton banners burning. Her Stan prophecies were wrong because she attributed words meant for Jon to him, but beyond that I think she'll be proven right about a great deal.
Also I really don't think it would be too difficult for her to have a week or two of shooting some time between July and December. Since she knows now, her schedule could be planned well in advance.
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Post by Nezzer on Mar 19, 2016 20:10:35 GMT
I'm pretty sure Mel is a last season death. She will likely play an essential role during the war against the Others.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2016 20:10:41 GMT
Tbh I wouldn't be surprised if Melisandre died this season. I don't think she will though. Season 6 already has many people dying. At this point the only reason I believe Mel will survive the season is the Arya prophecy. If it weren't for that.... I don't really think that prophecy means shit. Mel just said "We will meat again". I reckon they'll never meet again.
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Post by Belle on Mar 19, 2016 20:10:41 GMT
lol that prophecy isn't gonna mean shit. i can bet on it. i know i'm being obnoxious right now, but i just feel like people put too much faith in that scene in general. when @sati is probably right that D&D have forgotten about it by now and probably just added that line in to make mel sound mysterious anyways If nothing ever comes out of the prophecy, it will be by far the most WTF scene of the entire show Nothing on that scale has been dropped to date. archiechvyalthan, @konradsmith that prophecy was obviously supposed to be some kind of replacement of the Ghost of High Heart prophecy, but unlike the Ghost of High Heart prophecy it was super general with shit like ~you'll kill a lot of people, and we'll meet again~. D&D probably didn't wanna miss the opportunity of having Arya and Melisandre interact when Melisandre kidnapped Gendry so they tacked it on
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2016 20:12:15 GMT
If nothing ever comes out of the prophecy, it will be by far the most WTF scene of the entire show Nothing on that scale has been dropped to date. Didn't Cersei kinda forget she had a kid with Robert on the show? Maggy the Frog also just ignored it.
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Post by Admin on Mar 19, 2016 20:13:38 GMT
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Post by archiechvyalthan on Mar 19, 2016 20:14:48 GMT
lol that prophecy isn't gonna mean shit. i can bet on it. i know i'm being obnoxious right now, but i just feel like people put too much faith in that scene in general. when @sati is probably right that D&D have forgotten about it by now and probably just added that line in to make mel sound mysterious anyways I disagree. I think the only reason to write that season would be some sort of foreknowledge about the two characters. Which from what we know about Arya in s6, could very well be on track to converge in s7. I also think that she will live to walk the walls of WF as she said and see Bolton banners burning. Her Stan prophecies were wrong because she attributed words meant for Jon to him, but beyond that I think she'll be proven right about a great deal.
Also I really don't think it would be too difficult for her to have a week or two of shooting some time between July and December. Since she knows now, her schedule could be planned well in advance.
Lena Headey only shot for 3 weeks back in season 3 and she had tons of scenes. She wasn't pregnant then, but my point is they don't really need Carice for that long, unless there's another huge battle or something.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2016 20:17:38 GMT
They probably just forgot about it
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Post by Belle on Mar 19, 2016 20:18:48 GMT
D&D also forgot that Stannis was burning statues of the gods and not actual people in his first scene in season 2.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2016 20:19:39 GMT
Nah. Shadow dragon confirmed.
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Post by Admin on Mar 19, 2016 20:21:48 GMT
D&D also forgot that Stannis was burning statues of the gods and not actual people in his first scene in season 2. Details, baby, details
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2016 20:22:53 GMT
I disagree. I think the only reason to write that season would be some sort of foreknowledge about the two characters. Which from what we know about Arya in s6, could very well be on track to converge in s7. I also think that she will live to walk the walls of WF as she said and see Bolton banners burning. Her Stan prophecies were wrong because she attributed words meant for Jon to him, but beyond that I think she'll be proven right about a great deal.
Also I really don't think it would be too difficult for her to have a week or two of shooting some time between July and December. Since she knows now, her schedule could be planned well in advance.
Lena Headey only shot for 3 weeks back in season 3 and she had tons of scenes. She wasn't pregnant then, but my point is they don't really need Carice for that long, unless there's another huge battle or something. Exactly.
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Post by Belle on Mar 19, 2016 20:26:43 GMT
D&D also forgot that Stannis was burning statues of the gods and not actual people in his first scene in season 2. Details, baby, details seriously they forget shit all the time about their own writing i'm not saying that this 100% confirms that melisandre is dying in season 6, but i think its MORE likely than not imo. i'm probably a little biased too because i dislike melisandre and would be fine with her dying, but the timing just isn't convincing me. none of the situations with lena make sense here imo, lena was never 8-9 months pregnant in the middle of filming of the show. i always considered melisandre dying to be a high possibility for TWOW anyways
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2016 20:27:38 GMT
D&D also forgot that Stannis was burning statues of the gods and not actual people in his first scene in season 2. Also burning of "infidels" in 4x02. Why D&D why?
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Post by Admin on Mar 19, 2016 20:40:13 GMT
D&D also forgot that Stannis was burning statues of the gods and not actual people in his first scene in season 2. Also burning of "infidels" in 4x02. Why D&D why?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2016 20:52:00 GMT
i'm not saying that this 100% confirms that melisandre is dying in season 6, but i think its MORE likely than not imo. i'm probably a little biased too because i dislike melisandre and would be fine with her dying, but the timing just isn't convincing me. none of the situations with lena make sense here imo, lena was never 8-9 months pregnant in the middle of filming of the show. i always considered melisandre dying to be a high possibility for TWOW anyways She is one of my favourite characters but I'm not opposed to her dying because of that. I imagine you're right about it being in TWOW material, I just think in the show that'll be in s7. Potentially even early on in that season too. My point is that this pregnancy is by no means disqualifying that she appears in s7 at all. I'm also not going to discount what I see as being setup because of other opinion's about the show's writing. Or read too deeply into the tea leaves of Sue's comments today.
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Post by Belle on Mar 19, 2016 20:57:51 GMT
i'm not saying that this 100% confirms that melisandre is dying in season 6, but i think its MORE likely than not imo. i'm probably a little biased too because i dislike melisandre and would be fine with her dying, but the timing just isn't convincing me. none of the situations with lena make sense here imo, lena was never 8-9 months pregnant in the middle of filming of the show. i always considered melisandre dying to be a high possibility for TWOW anyways She is one of my favourite characters but I'm not opposed to her dying because of that. I imagine you're right about it being in TWOW material, I just think in the show that'll be in s7. Potentially even early on in that season too. My point is that this pregnancy is by no means disqualifying that she appears in s7 at all. I'm also not going to discount what I see as being setup because of other opinion's about the show's writing. Or read too deeply into the tea leaves of Sue's comments today. that's totally fine and you're allowed to have that opinion. more than anything else, its just that as a woman myself i find it really hard to believe that such heavily pregnant months could be worked around against. you've been suggesting that carice can film a little bit in july/august and then film in december after she gives birth but even that i find hard to believe because carice is gonna look different when she's 7-8 months pregnant i july/august and different in december after she gives birth. thats not gonna work in regards to continuity regarding the show. like this situation isn't comparable with lena's pregnancies at all i could be proven wrong and maybe i'll change my mind later on but right now i just dont see it working out
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