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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2016 20:58:40 GMT
i'm not saying that this 100% confirms that melisandre is dying in season 6, but i think its MORE likely than not imo. i'm probably a little biased too because i dislike melisandre and would be fine with her dying, but the timing just isn't convincing me. none of the situations with lena make sense here imo, lena was never 8-9 months pregnant in the middle of filming of the show. i always considered melisandre dying to be a high possibility for TWOW anyways She is one of my favourite characters but I'm not opposed to her dying because of that. I imagine you're right about it being in TWOW material, I just think in the show that'll be in s7. Potentially even early on in that season too. My point is that this pregnancy is by no means disqualifying that she appears in s7 at all. I'm also not going to discount what I see as being setup because of other opinion's about the show's writing. Or read too deeply into the tea leaves of Sue's comments today.  Those are my thoughts on Cersei. I think she'll die in TWoW but the show will keep her alive until mid-season 7. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2016 21:00:53 GMT
She is one of my favourite characters but I'm not opposed to her dying because of that. I imagine you're right about it being in TWOW material, I just think in the show that'll be in s7. Potentially even early on in that season too. My point is that this pregnancy is by no means disqualifying that she appears in s7 at all. I'm also not going to discount what I see as being setup because of other opinion's about the show's writing. Or read too deeply into the tea leaves of Sue's comments today. Those are my thoughts on Cersei. I think she'll die in TWoW but the show will keep her alive until mid-season 7. Late.  709 to be exact. |
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Post by TheMadQueen on Mar 19, 2016 21:27:16 GMT
Those are my thoughts on Cersei. I think she'll die in TWoW but the show will keep her alive until mid-season 7. Late. 709 to be exact. Cersei will survive season 6 I'm sure. D&D love her, the audience loves her*, the critics love her. I'm thinking she goes out as the climax of season 7. *they think she's an asshole but she's a great character and a fan favorite |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2016 21:41:21 GMT
Those are my thoughts on Cersei. I think she'll die in TWoW but the show will keep her alive until mid-season 7. Late. 709 to be exact. So as Dany and Tyrion are trying to reach KL, Cersei will burn it, but will be stopped by Jaime? |
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Post by archiechvyalthan on Mar 19, 2016 21:44:04 GMT
Just a random thought, but I think season 6 could provide closure to what we could roughly call Act II of the story. I think of it this way....
Act I (Seasons 1-3): War of the Five Kings / Fall of the Starks / Rise of the Lannisters / Rise of Daenerys / Awakening of Magic.
Biggest scene and climax = the Red Wedding, effectively the end of the war.
Act II (Seasons 4-6): Aftermath of the War / Gradual rise of the Stark children / Fall of the Lannisters / Crisis in Meereen / Religious upheaval.
Biggest scene and climax = Probably Snowbowl.
So Season 6 could end with Bran, Sansa, Arya and Jon in positions of real power; the Lannister family in ruins (if Cersei and Jaime break up for good); the Meereen issue solved and the Faith Militant and R'hllor fronts clarified if not outright resolved. And then we're basically ready for the final stretch whatever that is!
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Post by Belle on Mar 19, 2016 21:53:16 GMT
Late. 709 to be exact. Cersei will survive season 6 I'm sure. D&D love her, the audience loves her*, the critics love her. I'm thinking she goes out as the climax of season 7. *they think she's an asshole but she's a great character and a fan favorite i personally think cersei will die mid-ADOS so i think she'll live till season 8 lol. i think characters like dany,tyrion,jon,arya,bran will all survive the seasons so cersei along with jaime will probably be the biggest character deaths so they'll die in the last book/season imo |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2016 22:00:35 GMT
Late. 709 to be exact. So as Dany and Tyrion are trying to reach KL, Cersei will burn it, but will be stopped by Jaime? Something like that anyhow. I think we went on about this at length a month or so ago. The fantasy was that Neil Marshall would come back for the episode too. |
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Post by TheMadQueen on Mar 19, 2016 22:03:45 GMT
I am guessing Jaime will be there, but I actually do want her to succeed. I have a special appreciation of Cersei and want her to have her moment. And I can just picture the scenes of the Red Keep burning down. LIT.
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Post by lordcarson on Mar 19, 2016 22:22:03 GMT
At this point the only reason I believe Mel will survive the season is the Arya prophecy. If it weren't for that.... I don't really think that prophecy means shit. Mel just said "We will meat again". I reckon they'll never meet again.  |
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Post by TheMadQueen on Mar 19, 2016 22:53:38 GMT
Watching that Dance of the Dragons special just got me 1000% more pumped for Daenerys's invasion.
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Post by 7timesdamnedshewolf on Mar 19, 2016 22:57:44 GMT
Late. 709 to be exact. So as Dany and Tyrion are trying to reach KL, Cersei will burn it, but will be stopped by Jaime? I'm gonna be annoyed if Chekhov's Forgotten Wildfire Caches only almost go off. |
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Post by TheMadQueen on Mar 19, 2016 23:07:48 GMT
So as Dany and Tyrion are trying to reach KL, Cersei will burn it, but will be stopped by Jaime? I'm gonna be annoyed if Chekhov's Forgotten Wildfire Caches only almost go off. Yes. Daenerys's conquest can't be too easy. It'll be a very game of thrones-y thing to have her get to Kings Landing only AFTER it burns down. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2016 23:11:29 GMT
So as Dany and Tyrion are trying to reach KL, Cersei will burn it, but will be stopped by Jaime? I'm gonna be annoyed if Chekhov's Forgotten Wildfire Caches only almost go off. So will I, but it's possible that Jaime kills her while the city is burning. |
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Post by 7timesdamnedshewolf on Mar 19, 2016 23:29:33 GMT
I'm gonna be annoyed if Chekhov's Forgotten Wildfire Caches only almost go off. So will I, but it's possible that Jaime kills her while the city is burning. Idt that's how wildfire works.  |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2016 23:37:12 GMT
So will I, but it's possible that Jaime kills her while the city is burning. Idt that's how wildfire works. Right. I dunno what I was thinking. |
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Post by TheMadQueen on Mar 19, 2016 23:52:40 GMT
Idt that's how wildfire works. Right. I dunno what I was thinking. I think she'll blow up parts of the city and the fire will spread. So the Red Keep won't just blow up, it'll burn down slowly. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2016 0:04:08 GMT
Right. I dunno what I was thinking. I think she'll blow up parts of the city and the fire will spread. So the Red Keep won't just blow up, it'll burn down slowly. The only thing that worries me is that scene D&D have in S7's outline, which was originally planned in the Throne Room, but is now going to be a massive parade in the streets of King's Landing with 1000 extras. |
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Post by TheMadQueen on Mar 20, 2016 0:11:42 GMT
I think she'll blow up parts of the city and the fire will spread. So the Red Keep won't just blow up, it'll burn down slowly. The only thing that worries me is that scene D&D have in S7's outline, which was originally planned in the Throne Room, but is now going to be a massive parade in the streets of King's Landing with 1000 extras. Yeah, that is interesting. It could be anything though. Margaery's or Tommen's funeral comes to mind. I think they will be building up to a scene like the Red Keep burning with various scenes of like exterior Kings Landing and stuff. Like how they built up to the Walk of Shame with various other scenes of Cersei going up the steps, Cersei in the alleys with the High Sparrow, the Faith taking over the city, etc. I'm not sure if I'm making sense right now lol. Like, they'll foreshadow big events by featuring the setting more frequently. |
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Post by boojam on Mar 20, 2016 2:10:17 GMT
Just a random thought, but I think season 6 could provide closure to what we could roughly call Act II of the story. I think of it this way.... Act I (Seasons 1-3): War of the Five Kings / Fall of the Starks / Rise of the Lannisters / Rise of Daenerys / Awakening of Magic. Biggest scene and climax = the Red Wedding, effectively the end of the war. Act II (Seasons 4-6): Aftermath of the War / Gradual rise of the Stark children / Fall of the Lannisters / Crisis in Meereen / Religious upheaval. Biggest scene and climax = Probably Snowbowl. So Season 6 could end with Bran, Sansa, Arya and Jon in positions of real power; the Lannister family in ruins (if Cersei and Jaime break up for good); the Meereen issue solved and the Faith Militant and R'hllor fronts clarified if not outright resolved. And then we're basically ready for the final stretch whatever that is! It seems to be the Others-Walkers-Night-King-Others thingy. I am thinking the big surprise S6 will some weird thing the Other-Walkers go and end on some creepy big note about the Others. Tho I can't see S7 and S8 being all Others stuff. |
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Post by barristanwhitebeard on Mar 20, 2016 2:15:00 GMT
I am guessing Jaime will be there, but I actually do want her to succeed. I have a special appreciation of Cersei and want her to have her moment. And I can just picture the scenes of the Red Keep burning down. LIT. It has been very foreshadowed in both the books and the show, so I'm sure it will happen in Season 7. When Dany's invasion comes, and after some kind of struggle (Queenbowl?), I think she will fulfiill her promise and will burn King's Landing and House Lannister to the ground rather than surrender. |
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709 to be exact.
