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Post by Nezzer on Mar 17, 2016 7:35:40 GMT
Yeah, I think the surprising death is Rickon. He's a nobody, but at this point any Stark death is huge.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 17, 2016 7:44:23 GMT
Yeah, I think the surprising death is Rickon. He's a nobody, but at this point any Stark death is huge. Plus the L7R guy Jesus comparing the death to Shireen's was a pretty big hint in that direction in itself, I think. Besides both being children, they're both pretty minor characters with pretty big political significance who's deaths change one's conception of the endgame quite a bit.
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Post by Nezzer on Mar 17, 2016 7:49:15 GMT
Yeah, I think the surprising death is Rickon. He's a nobody, but at this point any Stark death is huge. Plus the L7R guy Jesus comparing the death to Shireen's was a pretty big hint in that direction in itself, I think. Besides both being children, they're both pretty minor characters with pretty big political significance who's deaths change one's conception of the endgame quite a bit. Now I'm convinced that redditor we were talking about the other day is the real deal indeed.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 17, 2016 7:52:08 GMT
Plus the L7R guy Jesus comparing the death to Shireen's was a pretty big hint in that direction in itself, I think. Besides both being children, they're both pretty minor characters with pretty big political significance who's deaths change one's conception of the endgame quite a bit. Now I'm convinced that redditor we were talking about the other day is the real deal indeed. That is, if he was the first one to discuss the possibility. I can recall hearing it earlier than that guy's first post and still don't see the purpose of having Osha on one of the crosses. But who the fuck knows.
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Post by Nezzer on Mar 17, 2016 8:09:53 GMT
Now I'm convinced that redditor we were talking about the other day is the real deal indeed. That is, if he was the first one to discuss the possibility. I can recall hearing it earlier than that guy's first post and still don't see the purpose of having Osha on one of the crosses. But who the fuck knows. He just said she dies. He didn't know who were the characters on the crosses.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 17, 2016 8:17:33 GMT
That is, if he was the first one to discuss the possibility. I can recall hearing it earlier than that guy's first post and still don't see the purpose of having Osha on one of the crosses. But who the fuck knows. He just said she dies. He didn't know who were the characters on the crosses. I guess it's quite possible then. I just found the way that guy posted somewhat suspect and remember reading rumours about Rickon dying on reddit before that guy's first post, so I've still got some doubts about him. Still, it probably checks out.
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Post by boojam on Mar 17, 2016 8:50:34 GMT
Has to be Rickon right? But wtf is a little kid doing in a battle in the first place? I don't know how the show is going to deal with Art not being a little kid anymore! No sure how they deal with Maisie Williams being 18 , soon 19. Sophie Turner is 20, and has looked like a young woman since season 1. Isaac frankly looks older than 16. I think George goofed when he could not figure out the five year gap.
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Post by boojam on Mar 17, 2016 9:00:10 GMT
i think its littlefinger or melisandre. Can't see rickon dying 'in battle' and honestly it wouldn't be that surprising. Sansa dying on the other hand would be. Sansa surviving is confirmed. From what cami posted today from Javi, most of it seemed to corroborate that reddit info we were discussing. Which points to it being Rickon. I am curious as to who the character is in , Winds , I guess, who George says is dead on the show but who is alive in the books, who plays a role in some plot development. I suppose in the two big pow wows in Santa Fe (and other times) GRRM has, broad stroke wise, told D&D&B who lives and dies? (After all David Benioff dropped the bombshell about Sheerien S5E9 which came from Martin.) “I have decided to do that, yes. Will you know it? I don’t know. It’s fairly obvious, because it’s something that involves a couple of characters, one of whom is dead on the show, but not dead in the books. So, the show can’t do this, unfortunately, because they’ve killed a character that I have not killed. But that doesn’t narrow it down much, because at this point, there are like, fifteen characters who are dead in the show who are still alive in the books.”
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Post by Admin on Mar 17, 2016 9:10:10 GMT
Told you the body on the cross was Stannis.
And the death is Rickon. How to get him to battlefield? Easy. Ramsay abducts him and brings him there just to kill him in front of Jon and Sansa
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Post by kingeomer on Mar 17, 2016 10:52:19 GMT
Told you the body on the cross was Stannis. And the death is Rickon. How to get him to battlefield? Easy. Ramsay abducts him and brings him there just to kill him in front of Jon and Sansa Ugh...no more dead Starks. Can't we kill off Jaime or Cersei this season? And no, to dead Stannis on a cross, either.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 17, 2016 12:07:06 GMT
i don't see the point of bringing rickon back to kill him. i really hope that doesn't happen.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 17, 2016 12:08:21 GMT
i don't see the point of bringing rickon back to kill him. i really hope that doesn't happen. There's a fair chance that GrrM does that too tbh. His wolf is called Shaggydog after all. The theory being that's all Rickon's story will ever be.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 17, 2016 12:23:03 GMT
i don't see the point of bringing rickon back to kill him. i really hope that doesn't happen. There's a fair chance that GrrM does that too tbh. His wolf is called Shaggydog after all. The theory being that's all Rickon's story will ever be. due to the events in the show- how things have been changed. his death will just seem like another stab in the heart. Shireen was not just a minor character, her death hit people pretty hard. Killing another child on the show the audience has a connection to will just be for cheap shock. Especially when the show has opportunity to not have him come back at all. To me- rickon is there to just survive. i never thought he would get killed. i don't think it will go down the same in the book.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 17, 2016 12:27:43 GMT
There's a fair chance that GrrM does that too tbh. His wolf is called Shaggydog after all. The theory being that's all Rickon's story will ever be. due to the events in the show- how things have been changed. his death will just seem like another stab in the heart. Shireen was not just a minor character, her death hit people pretty hard. Killing another child on the show the audience has a connection to will just be for cheap shock. Especially when the show has opportunity to not have him come back at all. I don't think his return is avoidable when they're delving into the succession in the North and having the Umbers return. And the rest depends on how it's handled, I guess. First the audience connection to him will have to be re-established in the first place for it to mean anything. But there are plenty of credible theories of GrrM doing something similar that I've read. So I don't object to it in principle. I suspect as far as plot mechanics go it's to give the North to Jon and Sansa. Beyond that we know very little about how it will all play out.
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Post by day dreamer on Mar 17, 2016 12:54:17 GMT
Told you the body on the cross was Stannis. And the death is Rickon. How to get him to battlefield? Easy. Ramsay abducts him and brings him there just to kill him in front of Jon and Sansa Staaahhpppp. No more dead Starks. (or Direwolves) And if Rickon does die, fuck the Umbers for giving him up.
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Post by Admin on Mar 17, 2016 12:55:37 GMT
There's a fair chance that GrrM does that too tbh. His wolf is called Shaggydog after all. The theory being that's all Rickon's story will ever be. due to the events in the show- how things have been changed. his death will just seem like another stab in the heart. Shireen was not just a minor character, her death hit people pretty hard. Killing another child on the show the audience has a connection to will just be for cheap shock. Especially when the show has opportunity to not have him come back at all. To me- rickon is there to just survive. i never thought he would get killed. i don't think it will go down the same in the book. The writers love cheap shocks.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 17, 2016 13:06:03 GMT
Isn't killing a Stark every now and then getting a bit repetitive? If I think about it, killing Rickon this early wouldn't really make any sense. Like the kid has done nothing yet.
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Post by boojam on Mar 17, 2016 13:06:40 GMT
i don't see the point of bringing rickon back to kill him. i really hope that doesn't happen. There's a fair chance that GrrM does that too tbh. His wolf is called Shaggydog after all. The theory being that's all Rickon's story will ever be. That's all asoiaf might be!
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Post by Admin on Mar 17, 2016 13:12:26 GMT
Isn't killing a Stark every now and then getting a bit repetitive? If I think about it, killing Rickon this early wouldn't really make any sense. Like the kid has done nothing yet. So do pointless sex scenes and killing off the heroes of the story. And Mel disrobing. So whats a bit of more Stark death
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Post by Deleted on Mar 17, 2016 13:23:43 GMT
Isn't killing a Stark every now and then getting a bit repetitive? Tbh I don't think GrrM anywhere near done killing them off. Though that said by the end of the series, there'll be more of them left than there are members of most other houses still. Ned and Cat were wise to have so many kids.
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