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Post by breakfest on Mar 14, 2016 18:08:58 GMT
After watching the Volantis History & Lore, where they were very strongly hinting at a slave uprising there, I have to wonder if it happens at the end of the season. Got to hope that's where Dany launches her invasion from. Also, I know her navy is covered by Daario's 93 ships line, but you have to think that was put in there just in case they didn't get the time to do the Iron Islands storyline. Now that they are I'm pretty sure we'll see Yara in Volantis to help out. Holy hell that's given me another thought. Perhaps Yara being interested in women is because she'll inherit Victarion's desire for Daenerys? Except, you know, less creepy and entitled. Ugh, I hope not. That development would be so unbelievably shoehorned it could destroy her character. Dany and Yara have nothing in common. I like the first part about Volantis, though. I'm just spitballing, it's probably bollocks.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2016 18:15:47 GMT
After watching the Volantis History & Lore, where they were very strongly hinting at a slave uprising there, I have to wonder if it happens at the end of the season. Got to hope that's where Dany launches her invasion from.Also, I know her navy is covered by Daario's 93 ships line, but you have to think that was put in there just in case they didn't get the time to do the Iron Islands storyline. Now that they are I'm pretty sure we'll see Yara in Volantis to help out. Holy hell that's given me another thought. Perhaps Yara being interested in women is because she'll inherit Victarion's desire for Daenerys? Except, you know, less creepy and entitled. I think you just figured it out. Maybe Dany and Tyrion plan the invasion of Westeros and Kinvara gives the suggestion that they should take Volantis first as the slaves there believe that Dany is the savior. We saw the other Red Priestess preaching there last season when Tyrion and Varys were walking the Long Bridge. Then she launches her invasion from Volantis and lands in Dorne with her entourage and her fleet. Once arriving in Dorne, she comes in conflict with Euron and then plans to take KL during Queenbowl.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2016 18:21:45 GMT
Ah, fuck this. I'm torn apart right now. I really can't think of who those people on the cross are. Had WOTW not said that they're known characters from previous seasons I'd say they are some northern lords. Stannis and Roose are common guesses, but I don't think it's any of them. The body being Roose makes no sense, nor does Stannis, really. Didn't they say those characters were "likeable"? As much as we love Roose and Stannis I can't say they would be considered likeable by most fans. IIRC something like that. Osha and Edd?
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Post by Nezzer on Mar 14, 2016 18:41:09 GMT
Didn't they say those characters were "likeable"? As much as we love Roose and Stannis I can't say they would be considered likeable by most fans. IIRC something like that. Osha and Edd? That's what I thought once, but they are just too irrelevant, which is why, despite TWOTW's claims, I kinda still think they are Northern lords, probably the people who help Sansa and Reek early on in the season. For now I guess I'll just rule out Davos, Mel, Tormund, Reek, Sansa, Littlefinger, Walda and Roose.
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Post by Admin on Mar 14, 2016 18:53:04 GMT
After watching the Volantis History & Lore, where they were very strongly hinting at a slave uprising there, I have to wonder if it happens at the end of the season. Got to hope that's where Dany launches her invasion from. Also, I know her navy is covered by Daario's 93 ships line, but you have to think that was put in there just in case they didn't get the time to do the Iron Islands storyline. Now that they are I'm pretty sure we'll see Yara in Volantis to help out. Holy hell that's given me another thought. Perhaps Yara being interested in women is because she'll inherit Victarion's desire for Daenerys? Except, you know, less creepy and entitled. Ugh, I hope not. That development would be so unbelievably shoehorned it could destroy her character. Dany and Yara have nothing in common. I like the first part about Volantis, though. Let's hope you're right and this isn't what D&D see when they close their eyes and have this idea -
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2016 19:47:21 GMT
At this point I'm willing to think the other flayed body burning is Tormund. In the trailer you can see him being surrounded by Bolton men. Maybe he gets captured just before the actual Snowbowl takes place? No, he took part in the whole of the Snowbowl shoot and was at the wrap party for it too. So if he dies it'll be in battle.
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Post by boojam on Mar 14, 2016 19:58:50 GMT
At this point I'm willing to think the other flayed body burning is Tormund. In the trailer you can see him being surrounded by Bolton men. Maybe he gets captured just before the actual Snowbowl takes place? Then the Wildlings just leave the story?! I know the show (errrr... like the books) have a passel of one-too-many characters per group, but the show has zero other Wildling speaking parts , right now, unless one counts Wun Wun! I guess is that they have to keep Tormund since I think the Wildlings will play a part in fighting the OtherWalkers. Unless Osha throws back in with her people.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2016 20:03:36 GMT
At this point I'm willing to think the other flayed body burning is Tormund. In the trailer you can see him being surrounded by Bolton men. Maybe he gets captured just before the actual Snowbowl takes place? Then the Wildlings just leave the story?! I know the show (errrr... like the books) have a passel of one-too-many characters per group, but the show has zero other Wildling speaking parts , right now, unless one counts Wun Wun! I guess is that they have to keep Tormund since I think the Wildlings will play a part in fighting the OtherWalkers. Unless Osha throws back in with her people. That's why I originally thought that Tormund would survive, but after WotW calling Snowbowl "a complete bloodbath", I'm leaning more towards to him dying. Same with Grey Worm, the Unsullied need a face.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2016 20:08:36 GMT
Jon will be their king from s6 on, I imagine, so besides some characters that'll answer to him, he'll be their face, I think.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2016 20:11:08 GMT
Jon will be their king from s6 on, I imagine, so besides some characters that'll answer to him, he'll be their face, I think. Yup. They call Jon "King Crow" anyway.
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Post by Nezzer on Mar 14, 2016 20:18:22 GMT
Then the Wildlings just leave the story?! I know the show (errrr... like the books) have a passel of one-too-many characters per group, but the show has zero other Wildling speaking parts , right now, unless one counts Wun Wun! I guess is that they have to keep Tormund since I think the Wildlings will play a part in fighting the OtherWalkers. Unless Osha throws back in with her people. That's why I originally thought that Tormund would survive, but after WotW calling Snowbowl "a complete bloodbath", I'm leaning more towards to him dying. Same with Grey Worm, the Unsullied need a face. Tormund is a goner, I'm 100% sure. He's outlived his usefulness. Davos might outlive his too if Jon doesn't crown himself in the future, so he might die too.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2016 21:05:06 GMT
Ugh, I hope not. That development would be so unbelievably shoehorned it could destroy her character. Dany and Yara have nothing in common. I like the first part about Volantis, though. I'm just spitballing, it's probably bollocks. i think you are mostly right, except for the last part about dany and yara although i wouldn't blame her if it did happen. i still think this might be in the reach
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Post by archiechvyalthan on Mar 15, 2016 0:47:38 GMT
So.... just connecting the dots here, but if McShane's character dies and he only appears in 1 episode, and we know he encounters the outlaws, then it's pretty clear how he dies. (It was Sue who confirmed the outlaws scene and it was Sue who said she had heard rumors about Meribald dying).
The interesting thing about this scene might be to see how the new religious Hound reacts to seeing his mentor getting killed. Will he revert to violence and kill the outlaws in a brutal manner? I'm tempted to say "yes" but that might be kind of strange and abrupt. Might be better to keep the peaceful gravedigger angle for a little while longer. Maybe Brienne can take care of the outlaws?
EDIT: And the graveyard scene could be The Hound burying Meribald....
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Post by archiechvyalthan on Mar 15, 2016 1:07:30 GMT
www.ign.com/articles/2016/03/14/game-of-thrones-whats-ahead-for-podrick-payne-and-brienne-of-tarthInterview with Daniel Portman. About the beginning of season 6, he says that Brienne is still trying to make good on her oath to find Sansa, but that Brienne and Podrick will be in a different place geographically speaking. So maybe they go to the Riverlands early on? He also says that he's got the feeling Pod's training as a knight may be leading to an action scene of sorts in the future. I think that's good for his season 6 survival prospects, if anything.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 15, 2016 1:09:59 GMT
Damn i didn't know he was going to be in one episode. Maybe its something like the scene at the inn where brienne gets taken by the BWB in the book. Meribald is defending some folks at the crossroads inn and they encounter outlaws. Meribald preaches non-violence and gets killed? i can see the Hound then going crazy and having another epic fight scene in an inn. archiechvyalthan i don't think that's what he meant. He said they are in the same place (trying to find sansa) but not geographically in season 6 (north) compared to season 5 (vale/riverlands)
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Post by archiechvyalthan on Mar 15, 2016 1:21:34 GMT
Damn i didn't know he was going to be in one episode. Maybe its something like the scene at the inn where brienne gets taken by the BWB in the book. Meribald is defending some folks at the crossroads inn and they encounter outlaws. Meribald preaches non-violence and gets killed? i can see the Hound then going crazy and having another epic fight scene in an inn. archiechvyalthan i don't think that's what he meant. He said they are in the same place (trying to find sansa) but not geographically in season 6 (north) compared to season 5 (vale/riverlands) Of course! I read it wrong, thinking he was suggesting a change of location from the end of season 5 to season 6, but he meant early season 5? Still kind of a weird comment though, they were only at the Vale for 1 episode last season. About Meribald, yes I could see it going down that way.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 15, 2016 1:32:13 GMT
Damn i didn't know he was going to be in one episode. Maybe its something like the scene at the inn where brienne gets taken by the BWB in the book. Meribald is defending some folks at the crossroads inn and they encounter outlaws. Meribald preaches non-violence and gets killed? i can see the Hound then going crazy and having another epic fight scene in an inn. archiechvyalthan i don't think that's what he meant. He said they are in the same place (trying to find sansa) but not geographically in season 6 (north) compared to season 5 (vale/riverlands) Of course! I read it wrong, thinking he was suggesting a change of location from the end of season 5 to season 6, but he meant early season 5? Still kind of a weird comment though, they were only at the Vale for 1 episode last season. About Meribald, yes I could see it going down that way. If it goes down the way i said it means we wont see the quiet isle and i hope we do
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Post by boojam on Mar 15, 2016 1:36:10 GMT
Then the Wildlings just leave the story?! I know the show (errrr... like the books) have a passel of one-too-many characters per group, but the show has zero other Wildling speaking parts , right now, unless one counts Wun Wun! I guess is that they have to keep Tormund since I think the Wildlings will play a part in fighting the OtherWalkers. Unless Osha throws back in with her people. That's why I originally thought that Tormund would survive, but after WotW calling Snowbowl "a complete bloodbath", I'm leaning more towards to him dying. Same with Grey Worm, the Unsullied need a face. In the books I can't remember another Unsullied tho were 'speaking parts' for a few. Grey Worm has a prominent place after Dany leaves. Skahaz mo Kandaq the Shavepate is character the show has done away with who plays a bigger role in the book in team Dany.
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Post by barristanwhitebeard on Mar 15, 2016 1:36:25 GMT
Do you think that Damphair will try to use Theon to supplant Euron? Maybe. They could have cast just a random Priest for the Kingsmoot, but they bothered to cast Damphair, so I think they may have some kind of inner Greyjoy conflict going on.
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Post by barristanwhitebeard on Mar 15, 2016 1:45:33 GMT
Of course! I read it wrong, thinking he was suggesting a change of location from the end of season 5 to season 6, but he meant early season 5? Still kind of a weird comment though, they were only at the Vale for 1 episode last season. About Meribald, yes I could see it going down that way. If it goes down the way i said it means we wont see the quiet isle and i hope we do Me too. But as I said before, as long as he deliver an abridged version of the Broken Men speech, I'm fine. I can't see D&D missing the chance of putting on screen one of the best piece of prose ever written by GRRM.
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