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Post by freeparking on Mar 15, 2016 1:50:03 GMT
I am confused about this. Has something new come to light regarding Roose? Anyways, back to Jorah briefly. His moment with Dany in the pits sort of felt like she was accepting him back into the fold, so I don't see him leaving her side unless she sends him on a mission. Reading AdmiralKyrd's Jon and Mel post on Reddit got me thinking about the parallels between Jon and Dany. Dany's first romantic relationship was with Khal Drogo, who was from a different culture. Then she moved onto Daario, but that was more lust. Jon's first big relationship is with Ygritte, who was from a different culture. Then he possibly moves onto Mel. Again that is likely to be more about lust. Their last relationship will be with each other.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 15, 2016 1:51:33 GMT
If it goes down the way i said it means we wont see the quiet isle and i hope we do Me too. But as I said before, as long as he deliver an abridged version of the Broken Men speech, I'm fine. I can't see D&D missing the chance of putting on screen one of the best piece of prose ever written by GRRM. i'm pretty sure he's actual role is to deliver a speech reminiscent of that so i am not worried about that. I would've liked to have brienne & Pod come across the saltpan massacre on their way down from the north and meet meribald/elder brother there. who then takes them to the quiet isle. then after glimpsing someone who looks suspiciously like the hound, merielder brother joins them on the road.
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Post by freeparking on Mar 15, 2016 1:55:50 GMT
Do you think that Damphair will try to use Theon to supplant Euron? Maybe. They could have cast just a random Priest for the Kingsmoot, but they bothered to cast Damphair, so I think they may have some kind of inner Greyjoy conflict going on. I expect the Damphair to be as prominent as Areo Hotah, which is to say not very.
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Post by barristanwhitebeard on Mar 15, 2016 2:03:21 GMT
Maybe. They could have cast just a random Priest for the Kingsmoot, but they bothered to cast Damphair, so I think they may have some kind of inner Greyjoy conflict going on. I expect the Damphair to be as prominent as Areo Hotah, which is to say not very. Yeah, you're probably right. The fact that we didn't even know who is playing the character points toward a very limited role.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 15, 2016 2:39:53 GMT
I expect the Damphair to be as prominent as Areo Hotah, which is to say not very. Yeah, you're probably right. The fact that we didn't even know who is playing the character points toward a very limited role. They really could have just said the guy from S2 was Aeron. Or got Ray Stevenson, another HBO alumni like McShane, for the role since they cut Victarion. I imagine it's just an unknown actor playing the role though.
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Post by Belle on Mar 15, 2016 3:07:13 GMT
when the fuck will we get episode titles tho
i feel like we should gotten the premiere title by now
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Post by Deleted on Mar 15, 2016 3:11:48 GMT
when the fuck will we get episode titles tho i feel like we should gotten the premiere title by now I'm guessing this week or next week.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 15, 2016 3:19:26 GMT
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Post by AdmiralKyrd on Mar 15, 2016 3:20:21 GMT
I have no idea what they'll do with Daario. Keeping him around doesn't seem logical in the books, but he is different on the show. He was seen photographed, riding with Daenerys back to Mereen on horseback so he at least makes it that far. It looked like Jorah wasn't there either. As for Daario, he could be killed by Jorah, he could be revealed as The Harpy and killed during the Siege, I have a feeling the Harpy in the show will turn out to be Missandei, especially once you gauge Huissman hamming it up in the 5.10 finale "And Missandei, our queen trusts no one more than Missandei, certainly not me." And then you have that weird cut scene from S4 where she says she'll never betray Dany, and then you've got all these weird facial reactions by Natalie in Daznak when Drogon shows up and he starts killing the Harpies. She's sad when they start dying / overly horrified when Drogon starts saving them. It's weird.
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Post by Nezzer on Mar 15, 2016 3:30:16 GMT
As for Daario, he could be killed by Jorah, he could be revealed as The Harpy and killed during the Siege, I have a feeling the Harpy in the show will turn out to be Missandei, especially once you gauge Huissman hamming it up in the 5.10 finale "And Missandei, our queen trusts no one more than Missandei, certainly not me." And then you have that weird cut scene from S4 where she says she'll never betray Dany, and then you've got all these weird facial reactions by Natalie in Daznak when Drogon shows up and he starts killing the Harpies. She's sad when they start dying / overly horrified when Drogon starts saving them. It's weird. I really, really doubt that. I don't think we'll have "The Harpy" in the show in the first place, it will probably be just blamed on a conspiracy between the old masters. Secondly, Missandei has been way too genuine and has no reason to be the Harpy, and how can she project influence anyway? I don't think it makes sense, and, again, I don't think there will be any kind of twist in the Sons of the Harpy plotline in the show.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 15, 2016 3:31:49 GMT
I have a feeling the Harpy in the show will turn out to be Missandei, especially once you gauge Huissman hamming it up in the 5.10 finale "And Missandei, our queen trusts no one more than Missandei, certainly not me." And then you have that weird cut scene from S4 where she says she'll never betray Dany, and then you've got all these weird facial reactions by Natalie in Daznak when Drogon shows up and he starts killing the Harpies. She's sad when they start dying / overly horrified when Drogon starts saving them. It's weird. I really, really doubt that. I don't think we'll have "The Harpy" in the show in the first place, it will probably be just blamed on a conspiracy between the old masters. Secondly, Missandei has been way too genuine and has no reason to be the Harpy, and how can she project influence anyway? I don't think it makes sense, and, again, I don't think there will be any kind of twist in the Sons of the Harpy plotline in the show. It's going to have been the Yunkish since we know they're coming back and attacking Meereen in s6 with Razdal from ep. 307 returning as their face. Which explains why they didn't mind Meereenese nobles being killed in Daznak's Pit.
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Post by Nezzer on Mar 15, 2016 3:35:28 GMT
Yeah, that sounds almost like a mid-episode scene. Episodes in general, but premiere episodes especially, tend to start with prolonged scenes being set in the same area without time jumps. They rarely (or maye never, I don't remember) start jumping to a different place and a different time so soon. So my guess is that we will see Jon's body like in the trailer and some other stuff happening around his body or around Castle Black in the same scene.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 15, 2016 3:38:16 GMT
Yeah, that sounds almost like a mid-episode scene. Episodes in general, but premiere episodes especially, tend to start with prolonged scenes being set in the same area without time jumps. They rarely (or maye never, I don't remember) start jumping to a different place and a different time so soon. So my guess is that we will see Jon's body like in the trailer and some other stuff happening around his body or around Castle Black in the same scene. Probably someone hearing and reacting to Ghost's howling. If Ghost's in his kennel then Edd, or Dave or Mel could go to him first. "What's that, Lassie? Jon's been murdered!"
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Post by Nezzer on Mar 15, 2016 3:43:21 GMT
Yeah, that sounds almost like a mid-episode scene. Episodes in general, but premiere episodes especially, tend to start with prolonged scenes being set in the same area without time jumps. They rarely (or maye never, I don't remember) start jumping to a different place and a different time so soon. So my guess is that we will see Jon's body like in the trailer and some other stuff happening around his body or around Castle Black in the same scene. Probably someone hearing and reacting to Ghost's howling. If Ghost's in his kennel then Edd, or Dave or Mel could go to him first. "What's that, Lassie? Jon's been murdered!" And I think this is first time we'll get an immediate follow up on a season ender cliffhanger, isn't it? It's gonna be a bit strange.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 15, 2016 3:46:48 GMT
Probably someone hearing and reacting to Ghost's howling. If Ghost's in his kennel then Edd, or Dave or Mel could go to him first. "What's that, Lassie? Jon's been murdered!" And I think this is first time we'll get an immediate follow up on a season ender cliffhanger, isn't it? It's gonna be a bit strange. Yeah, most of the time there's a vague "a few weeks passed" between each season. 601 will focus on the immediate followup to a number of events which should be refreshing.
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Post by AdmiralKyrd on Mar 15, 2016 3:53:24 GMT
I really, really doubt that. I don't think we'll have "The Harpy" in the show in the first place, it will probably be just blamed on a conspiracy between the old masters. Secondly, Missandei has been way too genuine and has no reason to be the Harpy, and how can she project influence anyway? I don't think it makes sense, and, again, I don't think there will be any kind of twist in the Sons of the Harpy plotline in the show. It's going to have been the Yunkish since we know they're coming back and attacking Meereen in s6 with Razdal from ep. 307 returning as their face. Which explains why they didn't mind Meereenese nobles being killed in Daznak's Pit. Meh. We have very little information out of Meereen. If you look at the North, where we have much better information, indications are the show is willing to dive into engagements featuring multiple factions. I wouldn't be surprised if Meereen has similar. Otherwise it will be massively undercut by the other story.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 15, 2016 3:54:19 GMT
And I think this is first time we'll get an immediate follow up on a season ender cliffhanger, isn't it? It's gonna be a bit strange. Yeah, most of the time there's a vague "a few weeks passed" between each season. 601 will focus on the immediate followup to a number of events which should be refreshing. It feels like Mel and Ghost finding Jon would be a cold opening and then after the opening credits, we either get another Wall scene or Sansa and Theon running from Winterfell.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 15, 2016 4:05:30 GMT
It's going to have been the Yunkish since we know they're coming back and attacking Meereen in s6 with Razdal from ep. 307 returning as their face. Which explains why they didn't mind Meereenese nobles being killed in Daznak's Pit. Meh. We have very little information out of Meereen. If you look at the North, where we have much better information, indications are the show is willing to dive into engagements featuring multiple factions. I wouldn't be surprised if Meereen has similar. Otherwise it will be massively undercut by the other story. Razdal is supposed to appear in a Sackheim (603 or 604) and Sapochnik episode (609 or 610), which pretty much confirms that Yunkai and the Sons of the Harpy are working together to end Dany's rule in Meereen. There is also footage from the Inside S6 video that shows the Sons of the Harpy killing citizens outside Meereen.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 15, 2016 4:09:26 GMT
Meh. We have very little information out of Meereen. If you look at the North, where we have much better information, indications are the show is willing to dive into engagements featuring multiple factions. I wouldn't be surprised if Meereen has similar. Otherwise it will be massively undercut by the other story. Razdal is supposed to appear in a Sackheim (603 or 604) and Sapochnik episode (609 or 610), which pretty much confirms that Yunkai and the Sons of the Harpy are working together to end Dany's rule in Meereen. Also Missandei's was by Dany's side for the Mesa Roldan shoot which was for either 609 or the finale.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 15, 2016 5:03:30 GMT
Razdal is supposed to appear in a Sackheim (603 or 604) and Sapochnik episode (609 or 610), which pretty much confirms that Yunkai and the Sons of the Harpy are working together to end Dany's rule in Meereen. Also Missandei's was by Dany's side for the Mesa Roldan shoot which was for either 609 or the finale. Do we have an idea what Mesa Roldan was used for?
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