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Post by Belle on Mar 14, 2016 1:11:53 GMT
so do u think cersei's scene with the little girl could be cersei manipulating the little girl to kill kevan and pycelle?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2016 1:28:54 GMT
so do u think cersei's scene with the little girl could be cersei manipulating the little girl to kill kevan and pycelle? Maybe the little girl is one of Varys' spies and watches Cersei closely. I still think that Varys will show up in King's Landing after he leaves Meereen and have his "little birds" kill Kevan and Pycelle, after telling them about Dany coming to take the Throne. Varys could then escape to Dorne where he'll wait with The Martells for Dany and Tyrion's arrival in early S7.
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Post by freeparking on Mar 14, 2016 1:37:00 GMT
I am apparently one of those few people who do not think Jon Con will cause a widespread plague in Westeros. He has the slow spreading normal Greyscale, not the Grey Plague. I think we got a hint of what the Greyscale will cause him to do in his last chapter, where he reminisces about not burning that town like Tywin would have done. He will be more ruthless and reckless in sitting fAegon on the throne since he feels his time is running out. We have already seen this with Jorah entering the fighting pits. Maybe he will spread it to a few important people, but I don't think there will be a huge outbreak.
As for Daario? I like the idea that he finds out Jorah has Greyscale, and Jorah kills Daario to keep him quiet. Jorah once again is keeping things from Dany.
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Post by TheMadQueen on Mar 14, 2016 1:47:32 GMT
so do u think cersei's scene with the little girl could be cersei manipulating the little girl to kill kevan and pycelle? I think when Qyburn became Master of Whisperers, he kind of inherited Varys's spy network (some of it, anyway). So those kids could be working for him and therefore Cersei. She might be present for the assassination scene. Or it is Varys and the little girls scene with Lena is her just spying on Cersei.
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Post by boojam on Mar 14, 2016 1:50:25 GMT
I am apparently one of those few people who do not think Jon Con will cause a widespread plague in Westeros. He has the slow spreading normal Greyscale, not the Grey Plague. I think we got a hint of what the Greyscale will cause him to do in his last chapter, where he reminisces about not burning that town like Tywin would have done. He will be more ruthless and reckless in sitting fAegon on the throne since he feels his time is running out. We have already seen this with Jorah entering the fighting pits. Maybe he will spread it to a few important people, but I don't think there will be a huge outbreak. As for Daario? I like the idea that he finds out Jorah has Greyscale, and Jorah kills Daario to keep him quiet. Jorah once again is keeping things from Dany. The impression I have , from the leaked stills and video, is that Darrio is with Dany, in front of the mother of all Khalasars. This is a later episode. I am thinking Jorah has split , on a mission, or something else and is not in Darrio's vicinity by the last episodes.
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Post by cami on Mar 14, 2016 3:01:11 GMT
Coming back to talk about Jorah's future (I can't help it!) I have said it before, but I really don't buy the Greyscale "epidemic" theory... I think that Jorah having greyscale could be more of a consequence of D&D wanting to merge storylines and needing him to go somewhere else away from Dany than a device to cause a zombie outbreak. I think the "pardon" scene in the fighting pit last season is key, because in a way, that moment set Jorah "free" as a character. He had his forgiveness, and at the same time, they gave him a huge reason for staying away from her. I can see the burning of the Dothraki temple this season mirroring the last scene of season 1. And I can see show-Jorah accepting that she doesn't really need him near anymore, that being around put her at risk and finally going away and try to help her cause in other ways. Maybe this is something that doesn't suit book-Jorah character, but I can see show-Jorah acting that way. Death, he knew, but slow. I still have time. A year. Two years. Five. Some stone men live for ten. Time enough to cross the sea, to see Griffin’s Roost again. To end the Usurper’s line for good and all, and put Rhaegar’s son upon the Iron Throne.If we change Griffin's Roost for Bear Island and Rhaegar's son for Daenerys... we have a perfect excuse to place Jorah wherever we need to, doing whatever it takes to make Dany succeed. I can't see any reason for killing him just now... but maybe I am just in denial
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Post by AdmiralKyrd on Mar 14, 2016 7:58:00 GMT
I can't see Jorah dying in Vaes Dothrak. I can't see him leaving her again after everything. But I developed a convoluted plot that works yet is horribly unlikely.
Daario discovers the Greyscale and he says he knows how to fix it. He asks for Jorah's blue scarf thingy and gives him something. They try and help Dany but they all get captured, then Drogon arrives, something. Anyway, they're freed then Jorah declares he'll run back to Meereen get help. Dany makes advances on Daario, but he oddly pushes her away. She's confused as to why. Daario looks confused as to why she's doing this. Then Daario starts calling her Khaleesi and saying he's sick, and nods to his wrist. She asks him to show her but Daario starts talking about Daario giving him something and told he isn't supposed to take it off. Dany demands he remove it. Daario rmeoves it. Glamor wtf. Daario morphs into Jorah. They have no idea what's going on.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2016 8:05:55 GMT
the little birds look like they are underneath the red keep/in the dungeons. Which have lots of bricked archways (which most of the red keep does) I have no idea what they'll do with Daario. Keeping him around doesn't seem logical in the books, but he is different on the show. He was seen photographed, riding with Daenerys back to Mereen on horseback so he at least makes it that far. It looked like Jorah wasn't there either.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2016 13:21:25 GMT
I can't see Jorah dying in Vaes Dothrak. I can't see him leaving her again after everything. But I developed a convoluted plot that works yet is horribly unlikely.
Daario discovers the Greyscale and he says he knows how to fix it. He asks for Jorah's blue scarf thingy and gives him something. They try and help Dany but they all get captured, then Drogon arrives, something. Anyway, they're freed then Jorah declares he'll run back to Meereen get help. Dany makes advances on Daario, but he oddly pushes her away. She's confused as to why. Daario looks confused as to why she's doing this. Then Daario starts calling her Khaleesi and saying he's sick, and nods to his wrist. She asks him to show her but Daario starts talking about Daario giving him something and told he isn't supposed to take it off. Dany demands he remove it. Daario rmeoves it. Glamor wtf. Daario morphs into Jorah. They have no idea what's going on. After the bolded part I got lost with who is doing what.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2016 17:28:48 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2016 17:44:08 GMT
I have no idea what they'll do with Daario. Keeping him around doesn't seem logical in the books, but he is different on the show. He was seen photographed, riding with Daenerys back to Mereen on horseback so he at least makes it that far. It looked like Jorah wasn't there either. I still think that Dany sends Jorah away after gaining her khalasar in 604, which is why he wasn't with her and Daario riding back to Meereen. Jorah either rides back to Meereen to warn Tyrion that Dany is coming with her khalasar and that they plan to put an end to her time in Slaver's Bay and sail for Westeros or Dany sends Jorah to Volantis to convince the Golden Company to fight for her and then sails with them to Dorne near the end of the season opening up the door for her there. That would make way for Varys to escape there after he kills Kevan and Pycelle since Jorah would be with Doran already. Though I'm not sure if that will happen either, but a part of me thinks that Jorah will get back to Westeros before everyone else. Now both could be Jorah's decision maybe since he has greyscale because he doesn't want Dany or Daario to discover he has it. As for Daario, he could be killed by Jorah, he could be revealed as The Harpy and killed during the Siege, he could be killed by the Yunkish during the battle, he could die by dragonfire, the Dothraki could turn on him once they reach Meereen. There's plenty of options for how he dies, but once again I don't see him making it to Westeros. There's also that scene at the end of the season where Dany meets the masters and they said she was with six other cast members, but I'm guessing three of them are Tyrion, Missandei, and Grey Worm and other three are Yezzan, Razdal, and other master. That also questions where Jorah and Daario are at that point, unless one of them is gathering all of the ships, who knows.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2016 17:52:54 GMT
At this point I'm willing to think the other flayed body burning is Tormund. In the trailer you can see him being surrounded by Bolton men. Maybe he gets captured just before the actual Snowbowl takes place?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2016 17:53:39 GMT
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Post by breakfest on Mar 14, 2016 17:57:34 GMT
After watching the Volantis History & Lore, where they were very strongly hinting at a slave uprising there, I have to wonder if it happens at the end of the season. Got to hope that's where Dany launches her invasion from.
Also, I know her navy is covered by Daario's 93 ships line, but you have to think that was put in there just in case they didn't get the time to do the Iron Islands storyline. Now that they are I'm pretty sure we'll see Yara in Volantis to help out.
Holy hell that's given me another thought. Perhaps Yara being interested in women is because she'll inherit Victarion's desire for Daenerys? Except, you know, less creepy and entitled.
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Post by Nezzer on Mar 14, 2016 18:00:54 GMT
At this point I'm willing to think the other flayed body burning is Tormund. In the trailer you can see him being surrounded by Bolton men. Maybe he gets captured just before the actual Snowbowl takes place? No, he's part of that wildling charge against the Bolton shield wall you can see on my signature. The flayed bodies on the burning crosses were definitely put there before the battle.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2016 18:01:04 GMT
Do you think that Damphair will try to use Theon to supplant Euron?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2016 18:04:03 GMT
At this point I'm willing to think the other flayed body burning is Tormund. In the trailer you can see him being surrounded by Bolton men. Maybe he gets captured just before the actual Snowbowl takes place? No, he's part of that wildling charge against the Bolton shield wall you can see on my signature. The flayed bodies on the burning crosses were definitely put there before the battle. Ah, fuck this. I'm torn apart right now. I really can't think of who those people on the cross are. Had WOTW not said that they're known characters from previous seasons I'd say they are some northern lords. Stannis and Roose are common guesses, but I don't think it's any of them. The body being Roose makes no sense, nor does Stannis, really.
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Post by Nezzer on Mar 14, 2016 18:06:15 GMT
After watching the Volantis History & Lore, where they were very strongly hinting at a slave uprising there, I have to wonder if it happens at the end of the season. Got to hope that's where Dany launches her invasion from. Also, I know her navy is covered by Daario's 93 ships line, but you have to think that was put in there just in case they didn't get the time to do the Iron Islands storyline. Now that they are I'm pretty sure we'll see Yara in Volantis to help out. Holy hell that's given me another thought. Perhaps Yara being interested in women is because she'll inherit Victarion's desire for Daenerys? Except, you know, less creepy and entitled. Ugh, I hope not. That development would be so unbelievably shoehorned it could destroy her character. Dany and Yara have nothing in common. I like the first part about Volantis, though.
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Post by breakfest on Mar 14, 2016 18:08:01 GMT
Do you think that Damphair will try to use Theon to supplant Euron? It seems very much like he'll just be a small supporting role so I doubt it. Also Euron being drowned suggests Aeron will proclaim him godful enough to sit the seastone chair. Because as we all know, no godless man may *shoots self*
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Post by Nezzer on Mar 14, 2016 18:08:20 GMT
No, he's part of that wildling charge against the Bolton shield wall you can see on my signature. The flayed bodies on the burning crosses were definitely put there before the battle. Ah, fuck this. I'm torn apart right now. I really can't think of who those people on the cross are. Had WOTW not said that they're known characters from previous seasons I'd say they are some northern lords. Stannis and Roose are common guesses, but I don't think it's any of them. The body being Roose makes no sense, nor does Stannis, really. Didn't they say those characters were "likeable"? As much as we love Roose and Stannis I can't say they would be considered likeable by most fans.
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