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Post by boojam on Mar 13, 2016 1:02:49 GMT
I don't think it's Stannis for two reasons: 1) He was beheaded and I don't think the Boltons would bother to sew his head back to his body; and 2) The corpse looks fresh, too red. Stannis would be long dead by then and his flayed body wouldn't be so red. I think the two corpses are Osha and some new Stark loyalist Northern lord, maybe an Umber who took care of Rickon and that was betrayed by a family member who supports the Boltons (hence the Umber troops fighting alongside the Boltons). And are you convinced that it won't be Roose and Walda? It think Roose and Walda too, tho that does not make much propaganda sense. Maybe Ramsay has gone totally wud. |
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Post by boojam on Mar 13, 2016 1:29:55 GMT
I think this is the Iron Fleet, but where are they going?  |
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Post by barristanwhitebeard on Mar 13, 2016 1:39:01 GMT
I think this is the Iron Fleet, but where are they going? Could be an early season scene with Euron and his men arriving. Or could be later, with Yara and Theon going to only the Gods know where... But yeah, that's definitely Greyjoy ships, IMHO. |
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Post by day dreamer on Mar 13, 2016 2:07:58 GMT
Since Sue ruled out Rickon months ago, Roose and Walda are the only two that make sense. It's Ramsay's way of showing how batshit he is. The initial panic about it being Osha and Rickon was intense though.  |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 13, 2016 2:19:11 GMT
Since Sue ruled out Rickon months ago, Roose and Walda are the only two that make sense. It's Ramsay's way of showing how batshit he is. The initial panic about it being Osha and Rickon was intense though. Also the fact that Ramsay wants to take his father's position. I could see Sansa and Theon's escape creating conflict between them because Roose will insist that Ramsay has taken his amusements too far and that it will cost them the North. Even, Ramsay's "Winterfell is Mine. Come and See" if he really does send Jon the Pink Letter in the show, I don't think Roose will want to lose more men because of his son's actions. Roose's dream of "A peaceful land, a quiet people" is gone. The only issue I see is how will his men follow him if he has his father and stepmother killed, unless they are extremely loyal. |
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Post by Nezzer on Mar 13, 2016 2:30:13 GMT
Since Sue ruled out Rickon months ago, Roose and Walda are the only two that make sense. It's Ramsay's way of showing how batshit he is. The initial panic about it being Osha and Rickon was intense though. I just don't think it makes any sense. ShowRamsay is not the brute imbecile that BookRamsay is. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 13, 2016 2:36:30 GMT
reading the last couple of pages  |
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Post by barristanwhitebeard on Mar 13, 2016 2:38:31 GMT
Since Sue ruled out Rickon months ago, Roose and Walda are the only two that make sense. It's Ramsay's way of showing how batshit he is. The initial panic about it being Osha and Rickon was intense though. I just don't think it makes any sense. ShowRamsay is not the brute imbecile that BookRamsay is. True. Ramsay is extremely clever in the show. The bodies are there for a reason: send a message. Intimidate and insult Jon Snow and his allies. In this context, it can only be someone whose death would cause that reaction to him. I think Tormund, Davos or Edd. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 13, 2016 2:38:48 GMT
No. They cannot kill Rickon.   Just. no. |
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Post by Belle on Mar 13, 2016 2:41:37 GMT
No. They cannot kill Rickon. Just. no. I'm gonna be so pissed if they kill of Rickon just so they can make Sansa QITN lol. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 13, 2016 2:45:20 GMT
I just don't think it makes any sense. ShowRamsay is not the brute imbecile that BookRamsay is. True. Ramsay is extremely clever in the show. The bodies are there for a reason: send a message. Intimidate and insult Jon Snow and his allies. In this context, it can only be someone whose death would cause that reaction to him. I think Tormund, Davos or Edd.Well it can't be Tormund or Davos because they fight in the battle and the scene with the flayed men on the burning crosses happens before that. Edd, maybe if he decides to leave the Wall, but since Rickon is ruled out it can't be him either. I can't think of anyone but Roose and Walda. Now one of the bodies could be Osha, but the second person being Stannis... that doesn't make sense either, since he would be dead for months. |
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Post by barristanwhitebeard on Mar 13, 2016 2:49:15 GMT
No. They cannot kill Rickon. Just. no. I'm gonna be so pissed if they kill of Rickon just so they can make Sansa QITN lol. Not me. To be honest, Rickon is the only Stark which I do not feel emotionally attached. But it would be somehow lazy to bring him back just to kill him right there. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 13, 2016 2:51:26 GMT
No. They cannot kill Rickon. Just. no. I'm gonna be so pissed if they kill of Rickon just so they can make Sansa QITN lol. imo Sansa will never be QITN. She will be Wardeness of the North until Rickon comes of age. Plus if Jon's there, he's the one that is going to be running things anyway. |
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Post by barristanwhitebeard on Mar 13, 2016 2:52:13 GMT
True. Ramsay is extremely clever in the show. The bodies are there for a reason: send a message. Intimidate and insult Jon Snow and his allies. In this context, it can only be someone whose death would cause that reaction to him. I think Tormund, Davos or Edd. Edd, maybe if he decides to leave the Wall, but since Rickon is ruled out it can't be him either. I can't think of anyone but Roose and Walda. Now one of the bodies could be Osha, but the second person being Stannis... that doesn't make sense either, since he would be dead for months. I didn't remember that. Well, I'm totally puzzled.  |
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Post by archiechvyalthan on Mar 13, 2016 2:56:49 GMT
Didn't Javi say that the burning bodies belonged to characters who were still alive by the end of season 5? So it can't be Stannis.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 13, 2016 2:57:20 GMT
I'm gonna be so pissed if they kill of Rickon just so they can make Sansa QITN lol. imo Sansa will never be QITN. She will be Wardeness of the North until Rickon comes of age. Plus if Jon's there, he's the one that is going to be running things anyway. Sansa becoming QITN at the end of Season 6 would be way too fast anyway. |
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Post by day dreamer on Mar 13, 2016 2:57:28 GMT
Since Sue ruled out Rickon months ago, Roose and Walda are the only two that make sense. It's Ramsay's way of showing how batshit he is. The initial panic about it being Osha and Rickon was intense though. I just don't think it makes any sense. ShowRamsay is not the brute imbecile that BookRamsay is. True, but he could still snap though. He might rage after he finds out both of his toys are gone, and especially if Roose blames him for it. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 13, 2016 3:02:14 GMT
I just don't think it makes any sense. ShowRamsay is not the brute imbecile that BookRamsay is. True, but he could still snap though. He might rage after he finds out both of his toys are gone, and especially if Roose blames him for it. And finding Myranda dead. Once Ramsay and Roose hear that Sansa and Theon weren't found too. Yeah... |
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Post by Belle on Mar 13, 2016 3:07:41 GMT
I'm gonna be so pissed if they kill of Rickon just so they can make Sansa QITN lol. imo Sansa will never be QITN. She will be Wardeness of the North until Rickon comes of age. Plus if Jon's there, he's the one that is going to be running things anyway. imo Bran will be King of the North. i'm not sure about Sansa, but Sansa ending up in some huge position of power as an endgame doesn't make much sense to me. her entire KL arc is her moving past that. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 13, 2016 3:12:30 GMT
imo Sansa will never be QITN. She will be Wardeness of the North until Rickon comes of age. Plus if Jon's there, he's the one that is going to be running things anyway. Sansa becoming QITN at the end of Season 6 would be way too fast anyway. Well, yes. But i don't think there's going to be much time for her to be Queen of anything. The walkers are coming, they need a military leader right now and Sansa is not equipped to do that. I do think she will help by running winterfell in the mean time before the walkers come and probably during. Maybe when the true war is over she will rule winterfell. But that's like...season 8 at this point. Also i really do think that's Roose bolton on that cross. There must be two parts to snowbowl, after the wildlings attack, lead by Tormund the Boltons are seriously impacted. Roose senses the northern lords are still not completely loyal, either by talking with littlfinger or his own spies around the castle. He sends littlefinger to send a message to the northern army that they want to make a deal. When jon and sansa say no littlefinger delivers the news back. Roose knows he is outnumbered and makes plans to head back to the dreadfort. Ramsay doesn't agree and kills him (and maybe littlefinger as well), and skins them alive for everyone to see. This causes disarray in the walls. Then in the final battle northern lords + jon's army + remaining wildlings fight and win against ramsay. Belle i'm not sure, i always thought bran would be staying in the cave. now that we know thats not true- or at least that he temporarily leaves- he could go back to winterfell eventually. I still don't think any of them will go back to being kings or queens it just won't seem right to me. |
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