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Post by Deleted on Feb 5, 2016 8:43:51 GMT
Of Jesse James? Yeah I heard that too, Andrew Dominik can't seen to catch a break. Apparently he has a way better cut of Killing Them Softly he's put together too but it's as if he's incapable of not getting fucked over by the studios and producers he works with.  It would take a LOT to fix that one. Terrible movie. Such a waste of a good cast. The first cut he had was basically a different movie. More like the book it's based and way longer. I liked the movie decently enough anyways myself. Particularly Gandolfini. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 5, 2016 8:45:53 GMT
It would take a LOT to fix that one. Terrible movie. Such a waste of a good cast. The first cut he had was basically a different movie. More like the book it's based and way longer. I liked the movie decently enough anyways myself. Particularly Gandolfini. Gandolfini was actually one of my biggest problems, or the lack of him anyway. I'll stick with True Romance to see him playing a hit man.  |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 5, 2016 8:48:06 GMT
You're right, Unforgiven is better! It was my mistake, I thought it was from 1990 instead of 1992. By the way, my three favorite westerns ever are (in no particular order) "High Noon", "The Searchers" and "The Good, the Bad and the Ugly". Although I have seen lately a lot of excellent Anthony Mann westerns and some of them could easily make my list soon! You were right the first time it is the best western in last 25 years I am so fucking mad we still didn't get to see that 4h director's cut that was screened on some festival years back. Didn't care for Unforgiven then? I'm going to rewatch Jesse James at some point. It's been years since I saw it, and all I remember was thinking it looked great, but was kind of boring. Maybe i'll appreciate it more the second time. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 5, 2016 8:50:26 GMT
How was Hawk annoying in any way? I found him pretty sympathetic.  I don't know. It's been a week, I can't really remember in what ways I found him annoying, but I did. The indian who helped Glass in the wilderness was probably my favourite character. |
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Post by MarcusAntonius on Feb 5, 2016 10:50:29 GMT
I wasn't a fan of Hawk myself. I found the story on Hugh Glass wiki page more interesting than the story put down in the movie if I'm being honest.
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Post by MarcusAntonius on Feb 5, 2016 10:52:35 GMT
You were right the first time it is the best western in last 25 years I am so fucking mad we still didn't get to see that 4h director's cut that was screened on some festival years back. Didn't care for Unforgiven then? I'm going to rewatch Jesse James at some point. It's been years since I saw it, and all I remember was thinking it looked great, but was kind of boring. Maybe i'll appreciate it more the second time. Could definitely see people being bored (my brother was like that) but the way it's shot combined with the score I was mesmerized by it. |
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Post by Admin on Feb 5, 2016 10:54:40 GMT
You were right the first time it is the best western in last 25 years I am so fucking mad we still didn't get to see that 4h director's cut that was screened on some festival years back. Didn't care for Unforgiven then? I'm going to rewatch Jesse James at some point. It's been years since I saw it, and all I remember was thinking it looked great, but was kind of boring. Maybe i'll appreciate it more the second time. No, Unforgiven is fantastic but Jesse James is a masterpiece. Both are great, great films |
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Post by boojam on Feb 5, 2016 11:43:41 GMT
Unforgiven is better. Just barely squeaks in your 25 year time frame. I also really love Tombstone, and the remake of 3:10 To Uma. You're right, Unforgiven is better! It was my mistake, I thought it was from 1990 instead of 1992. By the way, my three favorite westerns ever are (in no particular order) "High Noon", "The Searchers" and "The Good, the Bad and the Ugly". Although I have seen lately a lot of excellent Anthony Mann westerns and some of them could easily make my list soon! The Searchers is a remarkable film , Ford's westerns were , mostly, good, tho going back recently and watching early Ford seams show in films like Stagecoach tho My Darling Clementine and She Wore a Yellow Ribbon are better than I remembered. Over the years Sam Peckinpah's The Wild Bunch sticks with me , not because of the action, but the characterizations and atmosphere. Several of Peckinpah's westerns draw me in unlike some others from that era. It's been interesting since about 1980 and the decline of frequency of westerns, I think TV just pounded the genera into the ground, it's been 'one-off' westerns that get to me. I love Eastwood's Unforgiven , mainly because the David Peoples screenplay is a gem. The Coen's True Grit is a recent favorite , better than the Henry Hathaway film (which is still a good movie). More faithful to the Portis novel , both films follow Portis's story well and use his language , which makes those projects winners. The more modern the Wester, usually, the more attention to detail and period atmosphere. An unusual film in that regard is the 1972 The Culpepper Cattle Co. ( a forgotten film I think). Some many westerns of the 40's and 50's were will nilly about using dude-ed up Hollywood western costumes. Not really 'movie' but the best TV western ever Lonesome Dove still stands as remarkable drama of the genre. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 5, 2016 12:51:54 GMT
You're right, Unforgiven is better! It was my mistake, I thought it was from 1990 instead of 1992. By the way, my three favorite westerns ever are (in no particular order) "High Noon", "The Searchers" and "The Good, the Bad and the Ugly". Although I have seen lately a lot of excellent Anthony Mann westerns and some of them could easily make my list soon! The Searchers is a remarkable film , Ford's westerns were , mostly, good, tho going back recently and watching early Ford seams show in films like Stagecoach tho My Darling Clementine and She Wore a Yellow Ribbon are better than I remembered. Over the years Sam Peckinpah's The Wild Bunch sticks with me , not because of the action, but the characterizations and atmosphere. Several of Peckinpah's westerns draw me in unlike some others from that era. It's been interesting since about 1980 and the decline of frequency of westerns, I think TV just pounded the genera into the ground, it's been 'one-off' westerns that get to me. I love Eastwood's Unforgiven , mainly because the David Peoples screenplay is a gem. The Coen's True Grit is a recent favorite , better than the Henry Hathaway film (which is still a good movie). More faithful to the Portis novel , both films follow Portis's story well and use his language , which makes those projects winners. The more modern the Wester, usually, the more attention to detail and period atmosphere. An unusual film in that regard is the 1972 The Culpepper Cattle Co. ( a forgotten film I think). Some many westerns of the 40's and 50's were will nilly about using dude-ed up Hollywood western costumes. Not really 'movie' but the best TV western ever Lonesome Dove still stands as remarkable drama of the genre. |
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Post by Admin on Feb 5, 2016 13:05:29 GMT
The Searchers is a remarkable film , Ford's westerns were , mostly, good, tho going back recently and watching early Ford seams show in films like Stagecoach tho My Darling Clementine and She Wore a Yellow Ribbon are better than I remembered. Over the years Sam Peckinpah's The Wild Bunch sticks with me , not because of the action, but the characterizations and atmosphere. Several of Peckinpah's westerns draw me in unlike some others from that era. It's been interesting since about 1980 and the decline of frequency of westerns, I think TV just pounded the genera into the ground, it's been 'one-off' westerns that get to me. I love Eastwood's Unforgiven , mainly because the David Peoples screenplay is a gem. The Coen's True Grit is a recent favorite , better than the Henry Hathaway film (which is still a good movie). More faithful to the Portis novel , both films follow Portis's story well and use his language , which makes those projects winners. The more modern the Wester, usually, the more attention to detail and period atmosphere. An unusual film in that regard is the 1972 The Culpepper Cattle Co. ( a forgotten film I think). Some many westerns of the 40's and 50's were will nilly about using dude-ed up Hollywood western costumes. Not really 'movie' but the best TV western ever Lonesome Dove still stands as remarkable drama of the genre.  |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 5, 2016 13:14:23 GMT
I haven't seen it either but it's got Robert Duvall, Tommy Lee Jones and Diane Lane (  ) so it's probably worth checking out. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 5, 2016 13:35:50 GMT
Aw man, I have a soft spot for Lonesome Dove, but that is one cheesy ass movie!  Most of your picks are so much more cerebral, boojam. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 5, 2016 14:47:53 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Feb 5, 2016 14:50:26 GMT
Might have to rewatch Unforgiven now. Gods I love that movie so much. Gene Hackman in that movie. 
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Post by boojam on Feb 5, 2016 15:14:31 GMT
The Searchers is a remarkable film , Ford's westerns were , mostly, good, tho going back recently and watching early Ford seams show in films like Stagecoach tho My Darling Clementine and She Wore a Yellow Ribbon are better than I remembered. Over the years Sam Peckinpah's The Wild Bunch sticks with me , not because of the action, but the characterizations and atmosphere. Several of Peckinpah's westerns draw me in unlike some others from that era. It's been interesting since about 1980 and the decline of frequency of westerns, I think TV just pounded the genera into the ground, it's been 'one-off' westerns that get to me. I love Eastwood's Unforgiven , mainly because the David Peoples screenplay is a gem. The Coen's True Grit is a recent favorite , better than the Henry Hathaway film (which is still a good movie). More faithful to the Portis novel , both films follow Portis's story well and use his language , which makes those projects winners. The more modern the Wester, usually, the more attention to detail and period atmosphere. An unusual film in that regard is the 1972 The Culpepper Cattle Co. ( a forgotten film I think). Some many westerns of the 40's and 50's were will nilly about using dude-ed up Hollywood western costumes. Not really 'movie' but the best TV western ever Lonesome Dove still stands as remarkable drama of the genre. |
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Post by Admin on Feb 5, 2016 15:50:09 GMT
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Post by boojam on Feb 5, 2016 15:53:40 GMT
Speaking of westerns I have one that's a goofball guilty please.
White Buffalo, 1977, Charles Bronson's last western.
Seemingly remembered more for another Carlo Rambaldi failed robot FX!
Believe me this is a whacked out film with totally loony tunes dialog.
A story that is almost a bunch of non sequiturs.
Slim Pickens may have been ad ad libbing his dialog.
[after their stagecoach is attacked, Hickok and Pickney check for casualties]
Wild Bill Hickok: This lady's walkin' the streets of glory.
Abel Pinkney: God damn! Blue Whistler musta caught her right in the third eye.
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Post by boojam on Feb 5, 2016 15:54:34 GMT
Did any of you saw The Conversation? The Francis Ford Coppola film? |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 5, 2016 15:56:53 GMT
I wasn't a fan of Hawk myself. I found the story on Hugh Glass wiki page more interesting than the story put down in the movie if I'm being honest. I don't think the movie works without Hawk. I wouldn't really blame Hardy's character for merely leaving Hugh Glass out of self preservation, but killing his son puts the quest for revenge on another level |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 5, 2016 15:57:23 GMT
Did any of you saw The Conversation? The Francis Ford Coppola movie? It's excellent. Ford isn't in it much, if that's what you're asking. But it's very good so I'd recommend it strongly anyways. |
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Most of your picks are so much more cerebral, 