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Post by archiechvyalthan on Feb 8, 2016 15:12:09 GMT
I think they may tone down the most fantastical elements (his connection to warlocks, for instance), while still suggesting that something is very wrong with this character. That would probably make him even creepier. I'm very excited about Euron because he could be the first top-tier villain who isn't a caricature of evil, but something altogether more disturbing (unlike Joffrey and Ramsay, although I love Joffrey just the way he is...) Ill think they'll make his fleet a band of 'misfits' more like typical pirates. There will be sonething really evil they will need to show him do. Because the show always prefers to make things obvious. I think the implied assasination of his own brother and attempt to keep yara prisoner/kill her will be it. Theons there in the mix as well now so im not sure at all what will happen. The inclusion of the dragon horn is pretty important, i hope they keep that. They'll probably keep the horn, yeah. That's clearly building towards a big moment later on. As for his evil moment in season 6.... yeah, he'll surely kill Balon, but the audience would probably be OK with that, so I'm guessing they'll need something more. Very curious to see him interact with Aeron. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2016 15:17:27 GMT
Ill think they'll make his fleet a band of 'misfits' more like typical pirates. There will be sonething really evil they will need to show him do. Because the show always prefers to make things obvious. I think the implied assasination of his own brother and attempt to keep yara prisoner/kill her will be it. Theons there in the mix as well now so im not sure at all what will happen. The inclusion of the dragon horn is pretty important, i hope they keep that. They'll probably keep the horn, yeah. That's clearly building towards a big moment later on. As for his evil moment in season 6.... yeah, he'll surely kill Balon, but the audience would probably be OK with that, so I'm guessing they'll need something more. Very curious to see him interact with Aeron. So theres going to be an aeron? Well then, whatever evil thing, i think it will be directed at him. Ohh i almost forgot. He'll hopefully be raiding the Reach, so plenty of opportunities there |
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Post by barristanwhitebeard on Feb 8, 2016 15:18:44 GMT
Ill think they'll make his fleet a band of 'misfits' more like typical pirates. There will be sonething really evil they will need to show him do. Because the show always prefers to make things obvious. I think the implied assasination of his own brother and attempt to keep yara prisoner/kill her will be it. Theons there in the mix as well now so im not sure at all what will happen. The inclusion of the dragon horn is pretty important, i hope they keep that. They'll probably keep the horn, yeah. That's clearly building towards a big moment later on. As for his evil moment in season 6.... yeah, he'll surely kill Balon, but the audience would probably be OK with that, so I'm guessing they'll need something more. Very curious to see him interact with Aeron. Yes, I hope they keep the horn! Euron has clearly been build in the books to be Dany's main antagonist after her invasion, so what could be better than a crazy pirate with a magical horn? Plus, the blowing of the horn is the big climax of the Kingsmoot (and it would translate well to the screen, I think). That reminds me, by the way, two of the biggest mysteries yet: what is going to do Euron in the show after the Kingsmoot? And.. who the hell is playing Aeron? |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2016 15:22:00 GMT
Well, there are a few things that speak for LSH's inclusion in S6. Mattpeto named a few: There's also the fact that Catelyn gets mentioned a lot in S4 and S5, which is really weird if LSH is cut, but it would not be the weirdest thing the writers have done.  And let's not forget that Michelle Fairley was supposedly seen with Clive Russel in Belfast. Something like that usually gets disproven in a matter of days or hours even, but this never was. I just have a really hard time imagining they'd bring back Jon AND Catelyn in one season. It's not impossible, but it's a bit jarring. Let's be honest. The perfect moment was in S4. S5 would have worked, too. But putting her resurrection in S6 together with Jon's is not something that is very likely to happen IMO. BUT they are definitely doing that storyline... finally. So I'm eager to see what D&D ditched LSH for, because IMO whatever they came up with can't beat the thematic richness of this book!storyline.  All this LSH talk is really weird, because if you watch S1-S3 it's pretty obvious that D&D planned for her to be on the show, but then they changed their minds. What if they changed their minds again? |
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Post by barristanwhitebeard on Feb 8, 2016 15:34:43 GMT
Well, there are a few things that speak for LSH's inclusion in S6. Mattpeto named a few: There's also the fact that Catelyn gets mentioned a lot in S4 and S5, which is really weird if LSH is cut, but it would not be the weirdest thing the writers have done. And let's not forget that Michelle Fairley was supposedly seen in Belfast with Clive Russel. Something like that usually gets disproven in a matter of days or hours even, but this never was. I just have a really hard time imagining they'd bring back Jon AND Catelyn in one season. It's not impossible, but it's a bit jarring. Let's be honest. The perfect moment was in S4. S5 would have worked, too. But putting her resurrection in S6 together with Jon's is not something that is very likely to happen IMO. BUT they are definitely doing that storyline... finally. So I'm eager to see what D&D ditched LSH for, because IMO whatever they came up with can't beat the thematic richness of this book!storyline. All this LSH talk is really weird, because if you watch S1-S3 it's pretty obvious that D&D planned for her to be on the show, but then they changed their minds. What if they changed their minds again? Sometimes they change. When they were planning for a 7 season run, I'm pretty sure they didn't expect to include the Ironborn storyline nor the Riverrun Siege. But they changed their minds, and now they are making 8 seasons and introducing those storylines. So... who knows? I would be happy if we see LSH, I know that a lot of fans would be happy, but personally I have low expectations of see her. Maybe it's better that way than being disappointed again |
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Post by Paid Debt Lannister on Feb 8, 2016 15:38:57 GMT
Well, there are a few things that speak for LSH's inclusion in S6. Mattpeto named a few: There's also the fact that Catelyn gets mentioned a lot in S4 and S5, which is really weird if LSH is cut, but it would not be the weirdest thing the writers have done. And let's not forget that Michelle Fairley was supposedly seen with Clive Russel in Belfast. Something like that usually gets disproven in a matter of days or hours even, but this never was. I just have a really hard time imagining they'd bring back Jon AND Catelyn in one season. It's not impossible, but it's a bit jarring. Let's be honest. The perfect moment was in S4. S5 would have worked, too. But putting her resurrection in S6 together with Jon's is not something that is very likely to happen IMO. BUT they are definitely doing that storyline... finally. So I'm eager to see what D&D ditched LSH for, because IMO whatever they came up with can't beat the thematic richness of this book!storyline. All this LSH talk is really weird, because if you watch S1-S3 it's pretty obvious that D&D planned for her to be on the show, but then they changed their minds. What if they changed their minds again? I agree with you 1000% , good sire. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2016 15:39:02 GMT
Well, there are a few things that speak for LSH's inclusion in S6. Mattpeto named a few: There's also the fact that Catelyn gets mentioned a lot in S4 and S5, which is really weird if LSH is cut, but it would not be the weirdest thing the writers have done. And let's not forget that Michelle Fairley was supposedly seen in Belfast with Clive Russel. Something like that usually gets disproven in a matter of days or hours even, but this never was. I just have a really hard time imagining they'd bring back Jon AND Catelyn in one season. It's not impossible, but it's a bit jarring. Let's be honest. The perfect moment was in S4. S5 would have worked, too. But putting her resurrection in S6 together with Jon's is not something that is very likely to happen IMO. BUT they are definitely doing that storyline... finally. So I'm eager to see what D&D ditched LSH for, because IMO whatever they came up with can't beat the thematic richness of this book!storyline. All this LSH talk is really weird, because if you watch S1-S3 it's pretty obvious that D&D planned for her to be on the show, but then they changed their minds. What if they changed their minds again? Sometimes they change. When they were planning for a 7 season run, I'm pretty sure they don't expected to include the Ironborn storyline nor the Riverrun Siege. But they changed their minds, and now they are making 8 seasons and introducing that storylines. So... who knows? I would be happy if we see LSH, I know that a lot of fans would be happy, but personally I have low expectations of see her. Maybe it's better that way than being disappointed again The thing is a lot of fans voiced their opinion on that and said they want to see her on the show. Critics, news sites, producers of other shows (e.g. Bryan Fuller) also tweeted they want to see her. A lot of articles were written about her. Lady Stoneheart has been all over the internet ever since the RW and people never shut up about her. And now even GRRM said that LSH is his number 1 character he would like to see on the show. This is a lot of pressure and I can totally see D&D giving in to that. But there's no way to know at this point. |
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Post by mattpeto on Feb 8, 2016 15:46:03 GMT
Finally some optimism!  BTW guys, I'm not being pessimistic to piss off my fellow LSH fans. I would be thrilled if mattpeto turned out to be right. But I think I'll enjoy the season more if I have a more realistic or pessimistic (depends on how you see it) view on this. I don't want to be expecting LSH just to be disappointed once again. So I concentrate on the things I know will happen and hype them instead.  I think that's the sound approach. I also think D&D listens to the fans feedback more than you want to believe. Much of the fanbase still really wants LSH. Consider that Oberyn's character was such a huge success, it lead to D&D featuring Dorne in lieu of the Iron Islands for Season 5. Of course Dorne sucked, but Obern's mass success meant a great deal. You don't think D&D heard the outcry of fans at the end of Season 3-5? I mean if she's 100% out, I think D&D would just say "In our story, she's 100% out." Instead they just say, "wait until the series is over to judge everything" -paraphrasing. Fairley was also pretty busy in TV series after Season 3 (Resurrection, 24), it's also possible that there were scheduling conflicts. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2016 15:51:04 GMT
BTW guys, I'm not being pessimistic to piss off my fellow LSH fans. I would be thrilled if mattpeto turned out to be right. But I think I'll enjoy the season more if I have a more realistic or pessimistic (depends on how you see it) view on this. I don't want to be expecting LSH just to be disappointed once again. So I concentrate on the things I know will happen and hype them instead. I think that's the sound approach. I also think D&D listens to the fans feedback more than you want to believe. Much of the fanbase still really wants LSH. Consider that Oberyn's character was such a huge success, it lead to D&D featuring Dorne in lieu of the Iron Islands for Season 5. Of course Dorne sucked, but Obern's mass success meant a great deal. You don't think D&D heard the outcry of fans at the end of Season 3-5? I mean if she's 100% out, I think D&D would just say "In our story, she's 100% out." Instead they just say, "wait until the series is over to judge everything" -paraphrasing. Fairley was also pretty busy in TV series after Season 3 (Resurrection, 24), it's also possible that there were scheduling conflicts. Yeah, that's what I meant to say with my last post. I have no doubt that D&D listen a lot to the feedback of fans. If LSH was in, I would scream, then dance, then cry and then I'd have to look for Basil to make sure that he was ok.  But one of the reasons why they have never straight up said that she is cut could also be to avoid open criticism. This way the LSH hopefuls will tune in season after season instead of just giving up on the show. I don't know, you could be right, though. |
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Post by boojam on Feb 8, 2016 16:42:01 GMT
Well, there are a few things that speak for LSH's inclusion in S6. Mattpeto named a few: There's also the fact that Catelyn gets mentioned a lot in S4 and S5, which is really weird if LSH is cut, but it would not be the weirdest thing the writers have done. And let's not forget that Michelle Fairley was supposedly seen in Belfast with Clive Russel. Something like that usually gets disproven in a matter of days or hours even, but this never was. I just have a really hard time imagining they'd bring back Jon AND Catelyn in one season. It's not impossible, but it's a bit jarring. Let's be honest. The perfect moment was in S4. S5 would have worked, too. But putting her resurrection in S6 together with Jon's is not something that is very likely to happen IMO. BUT they are definitely doing that storyline... finally. So I'm eager to see what D&D ditched LSH for, because IMO whatever they came up with can't beat the thematic richness of this book!storyline. All this LSH talk is really weird, because if you watch S1-S3 it's pretty obvious that D&D planned for her to be on the show, but then they changed their minds. What if they changed their minds again? Sometimes they change. When they were planning for a 7 season run, I'm pretty sure they don't expected to include the Ironborn storyline nor the Riverrun Siege. But they changed their minds, and now they are making 8 seasons and introducing those storylines. So... who knows? I would be happy if we see LSH, I know that a lot of fans would be happy, but personally I have low expectations of see her. Maybe it's better that way than being disappointed again One is curios about things now, I really didn't think D&D expected an 8th season, that changed even before season 6 production , maybe they knew during season 5. It has to have influenced their screenplays. I am not so convinced that HBO is stopping at S8! They seem to be buying time now for another Buzz-Show, which they don't have. |
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Post by Admin on Feb 8, 2016 17:09:31 GMT
I think that's the sound approach. I also think D&D listens to the fans feedback more than you want to believe. Much of the fanbase still really wants LSH. Consider that Oberyn's character was such a huge success, it lead to D&D featuring Dorne in lieu of the Iron Islands for Season 5. Of course Dorne sucked, but Obern's mass success meant a great deal. You don't think D&D heard the outcry of fans at the end of Season 3-5? I mean if she's 100% out, I think D&D would just say "In our story, she's 100% out." Instead they just say, "wait until the series is over to judge everything" -paraphrasing. Fairley was also pretty busy in TV series after Season 3 (Resurrection, 24), it's also possible that there were scheduling conflicts. Yeah, that's what I meant to say with my last post. I have no doubt that D&D listen a lot to the feedback of fans. If LSH was in, I would scream, then dance, then cry and then I'd have to look for Basil to make sure that he was ok. But one of the reasons why they have never straight up said that she is cut could also be to avoid open criticism. This way the LSH hopefuls will tune in season after season instead of just giving up on the show. I don't know, you could be right, though. You are right, let's not even bother with me. There's just gonna be dead meat here |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2016 18:19:37 GMT
Euron molested or/and warged Aeron when they were kids.
You know it's true.
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Post by Nezzer on Feb 8, 2016 19:13:00 GMT
Ugh...
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2016 19:19:59 GMT
Tem paciência...  |
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Post by mattpeto on Feb 8, 2016 20:12:53 GMT
At the moment:
No spoilers leaking.
No trailers.
GRRM blogging dozens of chapters and hundred of pages on everything except TWOW.
This time of year is bullshit.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2016 20:16:14 GMT
WER AR MUH TRAELIRS?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2016 20:20:10 GMT
YES WER?!  |
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Post by archiechvyalthan on Feb 9, 2016 1:11:28 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2016 1:14:48 GMT
*Change "party" to Snowbowl. 
And on top of that flashback Old Nan confirmed to be in two episodes. Which would explain the implication in the Young Ned casting call that he was more than a one-off role.
In general, it's good to have some news again.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 9, 2016 1:28:54 GMT
this basically confirms Bran flashbacks in eps 1 or 2 and 5 or 6
i think Bran will see winterfell around the time of the rebellion. (the actress is not too young) Then 3ER will tell him to broaden his mind and we will see the TOJ in eps 5 or 6.
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