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Post by Admin on Apr 19, 2015 21:10:03 GMT
Just a side note for episode #503... When Jon beheads Slynt, the same music plays that played when Theon beheaded Cassel and Robb beheaded Karstark. "I Paid the Iron Price"...I love that they reuse this theme in such a way...it doesn't bold well for things to come. I kinda hate that Robb and Jon beheaded bad men and there is this music signaling something awful is gonna happen to them....I think they added drums this year too - love this track, such wonderful stuff from Ramin |
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Post by sj4iy on Apr 19, 2015 21:25:26 GMT
Just a side note for episode #503... When Jon beheads Slynt, the same music plays that played when Theon beheaded Cassel and Robb beheaded Karstark. "I Paid the Iron Price"...I love that they reuse this theme in such a way...it doesn't bold well for things to come. I kinda hate that Robb and Jon beheaded bad men and there is this music signaling something awful is gonna happen to them....I think they added drums this year too - love this track, such wonderful stuff from Ramin It's one of my favorite tracks. Actually, after I noticed that it was used when Robb beheaded Karstark, I was kind of hoping that Jon/Slynt would get the same treatment, and was happy that they did. The repetition of themes throughout the show helps to connect different events to one another. All three are conflicted about meting out the punishment, although for various reasons...I liked the way Jon hesitated when Slynt begged for mercy. Also, can't believe I misspelled "bode" >.< |
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Post by Admin on Apr 19, 2015 21:28:03 GMT
I kinda hate that Robb and Jon beheaded bad men and there is this music signaling something awful is gonna happen to them....I think they added drums this year too - love this track, such wonderful stuff from Ramin It's one of my favorite tracks. Actually, after I noticed that it was used when Robb beheaded Karstark, I was kind of hoping that Jon/Slynt would get the same treatment, and was happy that they did. The repetition of themes throughout the show helps to connect different events to one another. All three are conflicted about meting out the punishment, although for various reasons...I liked the way Jon hesitated when Slynt begged for mercy. Also, can't believe I misspelled "bode" >.< Ramin's work is all around the most consistent thing in the series - the way all these themes are so distinctive yet he adds something new every year is seriously inspired. If there is one thing that is given the proper attention and is done in amazing detail it's the use of the music |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 20, 2015 13:20:16 GMT
i'm pretty sure the dragons will be released soon...either ep 5 or 6 by the sons of the harpy and some masters. i believe there was some other speculation that they will be "released" by Sons during their simultaneous attack in Daznak's Pit, and they will attempt to slay them. On the subject of their escape, are they just gonna smash through the walls? That door doesn't look big enough for either one to fly out of now that they've grown larger. the door is big enough for them to squeeze through...plus they can melt rock can't they? i'm not sure when it would happen but master eaton is credited for episode 5 on IMDB |
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Post by dany4eva on Apr 23, 2015 10:41:19 GMT
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Post by Admin on Apr 23, 2015 11:08:01 GMT
I was suspended twice for making personal attacks ? I think you posted in the wrong place  |
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Post by AdmiralKyrd on Apr 23, 2015 20:48:20 GMT
Just a side note for episode #503... When Jon beheads Slynt, the same music plays that played when Theon beheaded Cassel and Robb beheaded Karstark. "I Paid the Iron Price"...I love that they reuse this theme in such a way...it doesn't bode well for things to come. Jon Snow shouldn't have Euron's Theme.  |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 29, 2015 3:37:16 GMT
So what do we think now based of the synopsis of episode 5?
Dany makes a difficult decision in Meereen (Marriage to Hizdahr and opening the pits?). Jon recruits the help of an unexpected ally (Tormund? Aliser Thorne?). Brienne searches for Sansa (Brienne talks to the old woman?). Theon remains under Ramsay's control (I think this is pretty obvious. It will show that Sansa will get no help from Reek, that he needs to be Theon again).
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Post by Deleted on Apr 29, 2015 3:41:37 GMT
So what do we think now based of the synopsis of episode 5? Dany makes a difficult decision in Meereen (Marriage to Hizdahr and opening the pits?). Jon recruits the help of an unexpected ally (Tormund? Aliser Thorne?). Brienne searches for Sansa (Brienne talks to the old woman?). Theon remains under Ramsay's control (I think this is pretty obvious. It will show that Sansa will get no help from Reek, that he needs to be Theon again). Yeah, sounds about right. Since Tormund is going with Jon to Hardhome, I imagine he'll negotiate with him about how they need to be allies. I'm not sure yet when Jon will say to the brothers who disagree with him, "We can learn to live with the wildlings or we can add them to the army of the dead" but it could be here. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 29, 2015 3:50:40 GMT
So what do we think now based of the synopsis of episode 5? Dany makes a difficult decision in Meereen (Marriage to Hizdahr and opening the pits?). Jon recruits the help of an unexpected ally (Tormund? Aliser Thorne?). Brienne searches for Sansa (Brienne talks to the old woman?). Theon remains under Ramsay's control (I think this is pretty obvious. It will show that Sansa will get no help from Reek, that he needs to be Theon again). Yeah, sounds about right. Since Tormund is going with Jon to Hardhome, I imagine he'll negotiate with him about how they need to be allies in The Wars to Come and eventually later on settle some of the wildlings in The Gift. Aemon will tell Jon to kill the boy and finally take full leadership after Stannis leaves the Wall to march on Winterfell. Yeh well if Olly says his line ill freak out  mm they may make a deal that some men will go with Stannis and fight while the women can settle the gift. Plus Tormund himself has to come with jon to Hardhome to negotiate with wildling leaders there. episode 7 is called 'the gift' so thats when the wildlings will actually settle there i think. But is Tomrund really an 'unexpected' ally? quite expected if you ask me... |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 29, 2015 4:02:44 GMT
Yeah I know that 507 is called "The Gift", but Jon might mention that if he negotiates with Tormund that the wildlings could settle there if they become allies. Alliser could be the unexpected ally, but since Jon named him First Ranger wouldn't Jon send him on his own mission Beyond the Wall or would he leave him in charge of Castle Black while he travels to Hardhome. Also, Olly telling Jon to "Kill the Boy" doesn't make any sense.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 29, 2015 4:23:00 GMT
Also, Olly telling Jon to "Kill the Boy" doesn't make any sense. LOL it was a joke. Because Olly stole Edd's job. Actually yeh, i think you're right that tormund and jon will discuss settling the Gift and perhaps awarding the Wildlings a castle in exchange for bending the knee and obeying the rules of the kingdoms. then in episode 7 jon may visit the gift/ wildling camp and recruit tormund for hardhome. The unexpected ally might be Aliser Thorne/Bowen Marsh. I think aliser will support him in this decision to settle the wildlings in the gift. He will be the one to then orchestrate the stabbing behind his back. some people think it will be Olly but he seems unlikely to plan it. he might participate though. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 29, 2015 4:31:34 GMT
Also, Olly telling Jon to "Kill the Boy" doesn't make any sense. LOL it was a joke. Because Olly stole Edd's job. Actually yeh, i think you're right that tormund and jon will discuss settling the Gift and perhaps awarding the Wildlings a castle in exchange for bending the knee and obeying the rules of the kingdoms. then in episode 7 jon may visit the gift/ wildling camp and recruit tormund for hardhome. The unexpected ally might be Aliser Thorne/Bowen Marsh. I think aliser will support him in this decision to settle the wildlings in the gift. He will be the one to then orchestrate the stabbing behind his back. some people think it will be Olly but he seems unlikely to plan it. he might participate though. I'm not sure whether Alliser will support Jon's decision or not since he doesn't like the wildlings, but I don't think Alliser is that much of an asshole to not realize that the White Walkers will attack the Wall sooner than he expected. So helping the Wildlings will actually do them some good since it could mean more men for the Watch. Yeah Olly can't steal everyone's job, but I think it can be hinted that Edd might have placed the block down. Also, what was the point of casting Bowen if he doesn't have any lines. Nobody has even addressed him as Bowen yet he appears in the first three episodes. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 29, 2015 4:35:46 GMT
LOL it was a joke. Because Olly stole Edd's job. Actually yeh, i think you're right that tormund and jon will discuss settling the Gift and perhaps awarding the Wildlings a castle in exchange for bending the knee and obeying the rules of the kingdoms. then in episode 7 jon may visit the gift/ wildling camp and recruit tormund for hardhome. The unexpected ally might be Aliser Thorne/Bowen Marsh. I think aliser will support him in this decision to settle the wildlings in the gift. He will be the one to then orchestrate the stabbing behind his back. some people think it will be Olly but he seems unlikely to plan it. he might participate though. Yeah Olly can't steal everyone's job, but I think it can be hinted that Edd might have placed the block down. Also, what was the point of casting Bowen if he doesn't have any lines. Nobody has even addressed him as Bowen yet he appears in the first three episodes. He's only in one more ep. and its a Podeswa one. He's a featured extra NW officer basically. Which, given that there was no casting call for the part and he was cast locally instead of across all of the UK, makes sense really. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 29, 2015 4:42:32 GMT
Yeah Olly can't steal everyone's job, but I think it can be hinted that Edd might have placed the block down. Also, what was the point of casting Bowen if he doesn't have any lines. Nobody has even addressed him as Bowen yet he appears in the first three episodes. He's only in one more ep. and its a Podeswa one. He's a featured extra NW officer basically. Which, given that there was no casting call for the part and he was cast locally instead of across all of the UK, makes sense really. I know that. I was going to say that he wouldn't be the unexpected ally since they haven't had any interaction or conversation on screen yet and he only appears for one more ep. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 29, 2015 4:52:24 GMT
He's only in one more ep. and its a Podeswa one. He's a featured extra NW officer basically. Which, given that there was no casting call for the part and he was cast locally instead of across all of the UK, makes sense really. I know that. I was basically saying that he wouldn't be the unexpected ally since they haven't had any interaction or conversation on screen yet and he only appears for one more ep. Yep. I still think it's Tormund, even though, as igrewupinKL said, that's not really all that unexpected given that he and Jon are pretty friendly and clearly respect one another. Still, it was set up with Stan saying that he might be "more willing to compromise than Mance ever was" and Hivju has to turn up again sooner or later, what with him being in the main cast and all.
I think Jon's scenes in 505 will be him talking to Tormund and then him seeing Aemon who will show him a reply letter from Roose or Ramsay (given that Jon sent the Boltons a letter in 504), which will tell him about the wedding between Ramsay and Sansa (just as Ramsay did in ADWD IIRC). This, I think, would prompt Jon to yet again doubt his NW vows and lead Aemon to tell him "kill the boy and let the man be born" in response.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 29, 2015 5:17:03 GMT
I know that. I was basically saying that he wouldn't be the unexpected ally since they haven't had any interaction or conversation on screen yet and he only appears for one more ep. Yep. I still think it's Tormund, even though, as igrewupinKL said, that's not really all that unexpected given that he and Jon are pretty friendly and clearly respect one another. Still, it was set up with Stan saying that he might be "more willing to compromise than Mance ever was" and Hivju has to turn up again sooner or later, what with him being in the main cast and all.
I think Jon's scenes in 505 will be him talking to Tormund and then him seeing Aemon who will show him a reply letter from Roose or Ramsay (given that Jon sent the Boltons a letter in 504), which will tell him about the wedding between Ramsay and Sansa (just as Ramsay did in ADWD IIRC). This, I think, would prompt Jon to yet again doubt his NW vows and lead Aemon to tell him "kill the boy and let the man be born" in response.
Yeah it's very likely to be Tormund because him and Jon aren't complete allies yet. That's a really good prediction with Jon's response to the Boltons Letter so I agree with you on how that will play out. As for Alliser, Stannis also said to Jon if he has considered sending Alliser to command Eastwatch, so it is possible he might take Cotter Pyke's role. Though we haven't seen Alliser in any of the Hardhome footage, so I'm not sure. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 29, 2015 5:26:41 GMT
Yeah it's very likely to be Tormund because him and Jon aren't complete allies yet. That's a really good prediction with Jon's response to the Boltons Letter so I agree with you on how that will play out. As for Alliser, Stannis also said to Jon if he has considered sending Alliser to command Eastwatch, so it is possible he might take Cotter Pyke's role. Though we haven't seen Alliser in any of the Hardhome footage, so I'm not sure. Jon made him First Ranger in spite of Stan's advice (which I think will prove to be a terrible mistake btw), so I think it's more likely that Alliser has charge of CB when Jon leaves with Tormund, Edd and co. for his ranging rather than going along with them. |
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Post by King Tommen on Apr 29, 2015 5:56:29 GMT
There's really no other candidate than Thorne to lead the betrayal and while they've had a begrudging respect develop, Thorne has been very consistent in accusing Jon of being too involved with the Wildlings and not as loyal to the NW principles. There's a good reason why they had him point that out during the election as well.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 29, 2015 6:02:36 GMT
There's really no other candidate than Thorne to lead the betrayal and while they've had a begrudging respect develop, Thorne has been very consistent in accusing Jon of being too involved with the Wildlings and not as loyal to the NW principles. There's a good reason why they had him point that out during the election as well. Yep. I imagine we might get a scene of him beginning to influence Olly while Jon's gone on his ranging too and then, when Jon returns with a bunch of wildlings which he means to settle in the Gift and/or to join Stannis Baratheon's campaign...everything will be in place for the Ides.
I wonder if Yarwyck will take part in it too. He seemed pretty harshly anti-Wildling in ep. 403.
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