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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2015 16:08:07 GMT
What are the puppies he keeps referring to?
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Post by flintstonebearer on Aug 26, 2015 16:37:05 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2015 17:04:54 GMT
Wow, some people have way too much time on their hands. (goes off to play Final Fantasy 14) |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2015 17:27:57 GMT
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Post by flintstonebearer on Aug 26, 2015 18:03:38 GMT
Funny thing is, Martin spent around 1900 words on this little baby. Add that to the other 15-20 entries/articles he has written on this topic between NAB and other places, that gives you some 30,000-40,000 words. That´s around 10% of a potential tWoW.
Ye know, I must correct myself: For years, I have called out the guy on his lazy writing practices. Truth is, he actually is prolific as hell. Just not on writing aSoIaF.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2015 18:47:40 GMT
Funny thing is, Martin spent around 1900 words on this little baby. Add that to the other 15-20 entries/articles he has written on this topic between NAB and other places, that gives you some 30,000-40,000 words. That´s around 10% of a potential tWoW. Ye know, I must correct myself: For years, I have called out the guy on his lazy writing practices. Truth is, he actually is prolific as hell. Just not on writing aSoIaF. Just think of all the pages and pages he writes in private that no one sees (emails and discussions with editors, friends, etc) ... he is a prolific writer ... but he's going to take as long as he damn wants on that book. I just keep chanting my mantra that we waited longer for ADWD.  |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2015 19:05:37 GMT
I don't want to sound cynical or unappreciative, because I love GRRM and the world he has created. But as a hobby writer myself, I feel like I make better progress with my texts than GRRM does with this book and he's a professional writer who doesn't have to study at university and work parttime like I do. It shouldn't be too difficult for a professional writer to produce 100k+ in words per year. Heck, I wrote 80k in 2 months. So yeah, I don't buy that "he's a slow writer"-excuse. He clearly lost interest in his own story and that's ok. You can't force these things. But just don't blame the tv show for surpassing the books, then.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2015 19:07:35 GMT
I don't want to sound cynical or unappreciative, because I love GRRM and the world he has created. But as a hobby writer, I feel like I make better progress with my texts than GRRM does with this book and he's a professional writer who doesn't have to study at university and work parttime like I do. It shouldn't be too difficult for a professional writer to produce 100k+ in words per year. Heck, I wrote 80k in 2 months. So yeah, I don't buy that "he's a slow writer"-excuse. He clearly lost interest in his own story and that's ok. You can't force these things. But just don't blame the tv show for surpassing the books, then. I don't think he blamed the show producers anywhere for that, he just acknowledged it as inevitable -- right? I know he's taken exception to some of the characters they've killed off who are still living, and he can't really do that since he gave them permission and license to do so. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2015 19:13:39 GMT
I don't want to sound cynical or unappreciative, because I love GRRM and the world he has created. But as a hobby writer, I feel like I make better progress with my texts than GRRM does with this book and he's a professional writer who doesn't have to study at university and work parttime like I do. It shouldn't be too difficult for a professional writer to produce 100k+ in words per year. Heck, I wrote 80k in 2 months. So yeah, I don't buy that "he's a slow writer"-excuse. He clearly lost interest in his own story and that's ok. You can't force these things. But just don't blame the tv show for surpassing the books, then. I don't think he blamed the show producers anywhere for that, he just acknowledged it as inevitable -- right? I know he's taken exception to some of the characters they've killed off who are still living, and he can't really do that since he gave them permission and license to do so. Maybe he didn't blame the tv show directly (some of his fans did, though, but that's not his fault), but he definitely had some very unrealistic ideas like +2 seasons for AFfC and ADwD or 10 seasons plus movies. I love him, but he clearly needed a reality check back then.  Alas, I'll be perfectly happy if HBO gives me a somewhat satisfying ending to this story. I just have a lot of empathy for my friends who are bigger fans of the books than I am. I hope they get their book ending, but I don't believe in it anymore. |
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Post by flintstonebearer on Aug 26, 2015 19:25:09 GMT
Funny thing is, Martin spent around 1900 words on this little baby. Add that to the other 15-20 entries/articles he has written on this topic between NAB and other places, that gives you some 30,000-40,000 words. That´s around 10% of a potential tWoW. Ye know, I must correct myself: For years, I have called out the guy on his lazy writing practices. Truth is, he actually is prolific as hell. Just not on writing aSoIaF. Just think of all the pages and pages he writes in private that no one sees (emails and discussions with editors, friends, etc) ... he is a prolific writer ... but he's going to take as long as he damn wants on that book. I just keep chanting my mantra that we waited longer for ADWD. Of course he can. Not sure whether Harper Collins would accept to take it to that extreme, but that sure is not my problem. He is their bitch, not mine. |
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Post by flintstonebearer on Aug 26, 2015 19:27:05 GMT
I don't think he blamed the show producers anywhere for that, he just acknowledged it as inevitable -- right? I know he's taken exception to some of the characters they've killed off who are still living, and he can't really do that since he gave them permission and license to do so. Maybe he didn't blame the tv show directly (some of his fans did, though, but that's not his fault), but he definitely had some very unrealistic ideas like 2+ seasons for AFfC and ADwD or 10 seasons plus movies. I love him, but he clearly needed a reality check back then. Alas, I'll be perfectly happy if HBO gives me a somewhat satisfying ending to this story. I just have a lot of empathy for my friends who are bigger fans of the books than I am. I hope they get their book ending, but I don't believe in it anymore. Pretty much this. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2015 19:32:48 GMT
This is hilarious because after readingskimming the several 3k word long essays written by GRRM on NAB, I still had no fucking clue wtf the puppies were. Now I do |
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Post by mattpeto on Aug 26, 2015 19:44:19 GMT
After one week of travel-related silence, another wall of text re HUGO/Puppy butthurt. grrm.livejournal.com/439207.htmlAnd he promises more. Re NAB entries, this is Full Metal Comfort Zone. At least, no surprises here. That's a 1,861 opportunity word cost to something that we'd all enjoy reading about. |
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Post by flintstonebearer on Aug 26, 2015 19:51:11 GMT
After one week of travel-related silence, another wall of text re HUGO/Puppy butthurt. grrm.livejournal.com/439207.htmlAnd he promises more. Re NAB entries, this is Full Metal Comfort Zone. At least, no surprises here. That's a 1,861 opportunity word cost to something that we'd all enjoy reading about. Oh, but there are little gems hidden in there: George...errh...dude...really ? This from you, the chief ally and enabler of Linda Antonsson ? Reality check, please ? |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2015 20:03:33 GMT
Speaking of Linda, and I know this is totally not the thread for it, but has anyone considered going to a tabloid with her bullshit? Or at least, a suitably low-morals news site/organisation that would care?
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Post by flintstonebearer on Aug 26, 2015 20:07:46 GMT
Speaking of Linda, and I know this is totally not the thread for it, but has anyone considered going to a tabloid with her bullshit? Or at least, a suitably low-morals news site/organisation that would care? Too obscure, I´m afraid. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2015 20:09:08 GMT
Speaking of Linda, and I know this is totally not the thread for it, but has anyone considered going to a tabloid with her bullshit? Or at least, a suitably low-morals news site/organisation that would care? Too obscure, I´m afraid. Even now that her name is on the cover of one of GRRM's books? |
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Post by flintstonebearer on Aug 26, 2015 20:15:14 GMT
Even now that her name is on the cover of one of GRRM's books? Unfortunately, yep. Too aSoIaF-subgenre-specific. Ultimately just a geekfight the general public couldn´t give a shit about - so no clicks to be made. However, if Linda humped Martin´s brains out behind Parris´ back and Parris split her head with a Got-replica of a cleaver, we would have a totally different situation, now wouldn´t we ? I´m totally Team Parris on that one. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2015 20:18:33 GMT
Even now that her name is on the cover of one of GRRM's books? Unfortunately, yep. Too aSoIaF-subgenre-specific. Ultimately just a geekfight the general public couldn´t give a shit about - so no clicks to be made. However, if Linda humped Martin´s brains out behind Parris´ back and Parris split her head with a Got-replica of a cleaver, we would have a totally different situation, now wouldn´t we ? I´m totally Team Parris on that one. But if we're taking her bullshit to a tabloid they would probably end up reporting something along those lines anyway. They make shit up, it's what they do! |
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Post by flintstonebearer on Aug 26, 2015 20:20:12 GMT
Well, if anybody have the right contacts for that one, why not try ? Nothing to lose, in any case.
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Alas, I'll be perfectly happy if HBO gives me a somewhat satisfying ending to this story. I just have a lot of empathy for my friends who are bigger fans of the books than I am. I hope they get their book ending, but I don't believe in it anymore.
