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Post by Basil on Jul 4, 2015 14:38:47 GMT
Hmm, I think I'm the only one who lists season 3 as their favorite. You're not. Season 3 is my favourite, but mainly because of the Red Wedding, the Tullys and the few scenes with the Brotherhood without Banners ...  |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 4, 2015 14:41:34 GMT
The duel between the Hound and Ser Beric was one of my favorite scenes from the books, and was really well done in the show. It was pre-hype Hype.
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Post by boojam on Jul 4, 2015 16:22:10 GMT
The duel between the Hound and Ser Beric was one of my favorite scenes from the books, and was really well done in the show. It was pre-hype Hype. As a non-battle(so-to-speak) action scene I love the "Dracarys" scene, it was a surprise in the books and tho they used a reworked version of it , it was also a surprise on the show. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 4, 2015 16:28:29 GMT
Season 3 was absolutely incredible with a few very minor setbacks. It is my second favourite season right after Season 1, which for me is still up there with the very best seasons from any TV show ever.
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Post by kingeomer on Jul 5, 2015 14:15:01 GMT
Season 3 was absolutely incredible with a few very minor setbacks. It is my second favourite season right after Season 1, which for me is still up there with the very best seasons from any TV show ever. Agreed. I rank season 3 very close to season 1 (which I also feel is one of the best seasons a television show has had...that would make a good thread...). But I also liked season 2...I might rank it third behind 1 and 3 but really only a tick off. Dany's storyline was an absolute drag and a mess. But the rest of the season was pretty good. I'd say for me it goes 3, 1, 2, 4, 5 |
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Post by day dreamer on Jul 6, 2015 4:41:23 GMT
Hmm, I think I'm the only one who lists season 3 as their favorite. Nope, S3 is my favorite. It goes 3,1,4,2,5 for me. But regarding this interview. This just depresses me whenever I read GRRM's own words about his writing. I get more and more discouraged on when he's actually going to finish this series. How the fuck did he fall behind like this? Even though yes, he's the author and reserves the write to work at his own pace. You'd think he'd feel some what obligated to give his readers the books in a swifter manner? |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 6, 2015 5:43:15 GMT
s3 had three pretty weak episodes, 302, 307 and 310 that bring it's average down quite a bit for me. It had only three ten-out-of-ten eps. for me too (304, 305 and 309). s4, s5 and s1 beat it in that order for me, not only for having fewer weak episode but also by having more ten-out-of-tens (402, 406, 408, 409 and 410 for s4, 503, 505, 508, 510 for s5 and 105, 106, 109 and 110 for s1). On the subject of what GrrM's been up to, here he is at the Grateful Dead's last concert.  |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 6, 2015 9:31:20 GMT
s3 had three pretty weak episodes, 302, 307 and 310 that bring it's average down quite a bit for me. It had only three ten-out-of-ten eps. for me too (304, 305 and 309). s4, s5 and s1 beat it in that order for me, not only for having fewer weak episode but also by having more ten-out-of-tens (402, 406, 408, 409 and 410 for s4, 503, 505, 508, 510 for s5 and 105, 106, 109 and 110 for s1). It's interesting to see which episodes are 10s for other people. For me, the show has exactly 8 episodes I would give a 10/10. (109, 110, 209, 304, 309, 409, 508 and 510 with 510 being the "worst" out of these episodes for me). On the other hand, I thought that 408 and 410 are worse episodes than 302 and 310. I agree with you on 307, though. But every season minus season 1 had at least one pretty weak episode (202, 307, 405, 410 and 509 for me). |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 6, 2015 9:37:00 GMT
It's interesting to see which episodes are 10s for other people. For me, the show has exactly 8 episodes I would give a 10/10. (109, 110, 209, 304, 309, 409, 508 and 510 with 510 being the "worst" out of these episodes for me). On the other hand, I thought that 408 and 410 are worse episodes than 302 and 310. I agree with you on 307, though. But every season minus season 1 had at least one pretty weak episode (202, 307, 405, 410 and 509 for me). I do give quite a few ten-out-of-tens, it's true (though I think 209's the only one worth that rank in s2) but that doesn't usually mean that I think the episode's actually 100 hundred percent perfect. Really it just means they're somewhere between a 95 and a 100. Which, I imagine, to some people would seem like a pretty exaggerated rating to give an episode of any show... but I really do love GoT. s4 and s5 in particular. |
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Post by boojam on Jul 6, 2015 11:24:34 GMT
It's interesting to see which episodes are 10s for other people. For me, the show has exactly 8 episodes I would give a 10/10. (109, 110, 209, 304, 309, 409, 508 and 510 with 510 being the "worst" out of these episodes for me). On the other hand, I thought that 408 and 410 are worse episodes than 302 and 310. I agree with you on 307, though. But every season minus season 1 had at least one pretty weak episode (202, 307, 405, 410 and 509 for me). I do give quite a few ten-out-of-tens, it's true (though I think 209's the only one worth that rank in s2) but that doesn't usually mean that I think the episode's actually 100 hundred percent perfect. Really it just means they're somewhere between a 95 and a 100. Which, I imagine, to some people would seem like a pretty exaggerated rating to give an episode of any show... but I really do love GoT. s4 and s5 in particular. I give a 10's now and then , but because production design and acting are so good every episode gets an automatic 6 from me, which means I never give less than a 7 because there is always something about an episode to garners another point. I don't like ranking the seasons but I would say overall seasons 1 and 3 are the best, 4 right behind them, 5 next (but hurt by the Blivit problem ) and then 2 only because of problems with Qarth episode 3-9. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 6, 2015 11:27:53 GMT
I give a 10's now and then , but because production design and acting are so good every episode gets an automatic 6 from me, which means I never give less than a 7 because there is always something about an episode to garners another point. I don't like ranking the seasons but I would say overall seasons 1 and 3 are the best, 4 right behind them, 5 next (but hurt by the Blivit problem ) and then 2 only because of problems with Qarth episode 3-9. BTW, you always say "blivit". What does that mean? |
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Post by boojam on Jul 6, 2015 13:15:49 GMT
I give a 10's now and then , but because production design and acting are so good every episode gets an automatic 6 from me, which means I never give less than a 7 because there is always something about an episode to garners another point. I don't like ranking the seasons but I would say overall seasons 1 and 3 are the best, 4 right behind them, 5 next (but hurt by the Blivit problem ) and then 2 only because of problems with Qarth episode 3-9. BTW, you always say "blivit". What does that mean? Well not exactly in WWII Kurt Vonnegut sense, but restated: 1000 pounds of prose narrative pounded into a 10 pound visual narrative bag. |
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Post by lordcarson on Jul 6, 2015 14:54:59 GMT
OHHHHHHHH blivEt. Ten pounds of shit in a five pound bag. I get it now. That makes everything make a lot more sense.
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Post by flintstonebearer on Jul 6, 2015 20:20:09 GMT
Hmm, I think I'm the only one who lists season 3 as their favorite. Nope, S3 is my favorite. It goes 3,1,4,2,5 for me. But regarding this interview. This just depresses me whenever I read GRRM's own words about his writing. I get more and more discouraged on when he's actually going to finish this series. How the fuck did he fall behind like this? Even though yes, he's the author and reserves the write to work at his own pace. You'd think he'd feel some what obligated to give his readers the books in a swifter manner? There was a thread on reddit a few months ago where they unearthed Martin´s *sales pitch* of aSoIaF to the publisher in the early 90´s. He pretty much said back then that he likes to start things, then expand them, but gets bored and into difficulties when he has to wrap them up. The Stockholm interview is simply another confirmation. Martin´s strength have been short stories, novellas and single-volume novels. Multi-volume sagas ? Well, aSoIaF is his first and only one, and we see his *prophecy* confirmed. Funny enough, I criticize the hell out of him (not that he has his difficulties, but the way he has dealt with the issue in public over the years), but I don´t begrudge him the money he is making and how he spends it and his time. He has opened a lot of doors for the genre and has catalyzed it to a new level in pop culture, which opens a lot of opportunities for other authors to follow his trail. For that alone, he can do whatever he wants, in my book. That said, I don´t believe he is going to finish it. Not because of health or age, but just for being a pain in the nuts to him. He does love his world, he may even kinda love his fans (the ones that blindly adulate him), but this may not be enough for him to muster the energy to do the job. |
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Post by boojam on Jul 7, 2015 14:59:05 GMT
Nope, S3 is my favorite. It goes 3,1,4,2,5 for me. But regarding this interview. This just depresses me whenever I read GRRM's own words about his writing. I get more and more discouraged on when he's actually going to finish this series. How the fuck did he fall behind like this? Even though yes, he's the author and reserves the write to work at his own pace. You'd think he'd feel some what obligated to give his readers the books in a swifter manner? There was a thread on reddit a few months ago where they unearthed Martin´s *sales pitch* of aSoIaF to the publisher in the early 90´s. He pretty much said back then that he likes to start things, then expand them, but gets bored and into difficulties when he has to wrap them up. The Stockholm interview is simply another confirmation. Martin´s strength have been short stories, novellas and single-volume novels. Multi-volume sagas ? Well, aSoIaF is his first and only one, and we see his *prophecy* confirmed. Funny enough, I criticize the hell out of him (not that he has his difficulties, but the way he has dealt with the issue in public over the years), but I don´t begrudge him the money he is making and how he spends it and his time. He has opened a lot of doors for the genre and has catalyzed it to a new level in pop culture, which opens a lot of opportunities for other authors to follow his trail. For that alone, he can do whatever he wants, in my book. That said, I don´t believe he is going to finish it. Not because of health or age, but just for being a pain in the nuts to him. He does love his world, he may even kinda love his fans (the ones that blindly adulate him), but this may not be enough for him to muster the energy to do the job. I think George had a good thing going through novel 3 , and he did say that he had reached a 'constraint threshold' with Hollywood! He wanted to just Free Range write , that mode seemed to take over with novel 4 which became novel 4 and 5. I have to say when I read GRRM , almost no matter the chapter he is so good , as a writer, I am pulled in. I mean I love his riffs. However when I finished Feast and Dance my brain said 'err... what was that'? The whole story went side to side and the plot only advanced a little. |
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Post by flintstonebearer on Jul 7, 2015 19:31:21 GMT
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Post by mattpeto on Jul 8, 2015 15:28:51 GMT
I hate to sound pessimistic but I just don't think this guy is motivated. I think the other things he does is probably easy for him compared to finishing ASOIAF. He's a low-hanging fruit guy and I get it.
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Post by freypies on Jul 9, 2015 11:48:00 GMT
I say what I'm about to say with the outmost respect for GRRM. After all, he brought us this story we all love and without him there wouldn't be the books, the show or this forum for that matter. Furthermore, I do agree with Neil Gaiman that GRRM is not our bitch. But as a fan, I can still say that I wanted him to succeed and unfortunately, it has been apparent for quite some time now that he won't. The show will spoil the ending. That's a fact. It is also a fact that GRRM had more than enough time to finish his magnum opus. But he didn't and this saddens me. I don't understand why he let this happen. It's none of my business what GRRM chooses to do with his time, but maybe he should have concentrated harder on finishing this saga, instead of writing and doing a million other things. Alas, it is what is is and we can't change it. Maybe I'm being too pessimistic here, but I don't count on him finishing this. Therefore, I'm glad that the show exists. I don't always like D&D's choices, but at this point I'm happy that at least I will get an ending from them. It would be cool if GRRM wrote some episodes for the final season/was heavily involved in its production. So at least he would get to tell the ending of his story in some way. It's plain and simple procrastination, which is why I don't feel sorry for him at all- he bought it upon himself. The show has also surpassed GRRM's quality due to the last 2 extremely mediocre books (imo), so, while I will definitely read the end of this series that I once loved so much, I won't really be anticipating them at all. |
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Post by Basil on Jul 9, 2015 12:40:40 GMT
It's plain and simple procrastination, which is why I don't feel sorry for him at all- he bought it upon himself. The show has also surpassed GRRM's quality due to the last 2 extremely mediocre books, so, while I will definitely read the end of this series that I once loved so much, I won't really be anticipating them at all. Dude, could you at least insert an "imho" somewhere inside that sentence. There are more than enough people (including me) who loved AFfC and ADwD as much as the first three books, so please don't state your own (rather controversial) opinion as a fact. It's aggravating to read stuff like this, a simple "in my opinion" would've worked wonders here. |
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Post by freypies on Jul 9, 2015 13:10:23 GMT
It's plain and simple procrastination, which is why I don't feel sorry for him at all- he bought it upon himself. The show has also surpassed GRRM's quality due to the last 2 extremely mediocre books, so, while I will definitely read the end of this series that I once loved so much, I won't really be anticipating them at all. Dude, could you at least insert an "imho" somewhere inside that sentence. There are more than enough people (including me) who loved AFfC and ADwD as much as the first three books, so please don't state your own (rather controversial) opinion as a fact. It's aggravating to read stuff like this, a simple "in my opinion" would've worked wonders here. Sure, I'll edit it in. However, obviously I am not trying to represent that as a fact- people write like this all the time, no? For instance, just as "Season 3 is absolutely incredible" is obviously understood to be an opinion, so shouldn't this? |
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