Stannis is alive! (Or not)

In a way it was handled like Robert's death where he says, "Give me something for the pain and let me die," and then we only have his death related to us/Ned later on in the episode. Here we have Stan say, "Go on do your duty," and only have his death confirmed to us via Mel's reaction to Jon asking about him.

It could and probably should have been clearer of course...but then people still think Syrio's alive.

I think that's likely. If Bri was willing to bury those tavern girls who "lay with lions" back in ep. 210, she'd damn sure bury Stan.

I really don't think focusing the scene on Stannis and his reaction to what was going on was a poor editing choice at all. It was Dillane's swan song and allowing his performance to breathe there was the best part of the scene. People's issue with the flow of the scene as I see it is that we didn't see him die. Which is more a perceived problem with the writing than the editing.

Everyone! I know that I have been mighty crazy bitch difficult lately and I'm sorry. My confidence in the show was broken and I am taking it very very badly.

I've been trying to keep my ranting to minimum here in the last two days because I saw I was making it difficult for others (I see that I'm crazy so I guess according to Locke from Lost, I'm not really crazy) and that is the last thing I want to do here. I am disgruntled, but in my defense, look what they've done to Stannis fans

So I ranted on my site instead and people who also disliked the finale should find something to enjoy there:

cinematiccorner.blogspot.com/2015/06/188-goodbye-my-king-f-u-thrones-links.html#

But I also did this big Stannis tribute in this post using a lot of his moments on the show (in the form of my Stannis per episode gifs) in the middle of the post - it came out nicely in a horribly, horribly sad kind of way.

I'm gonna limit my bitterness to my tweets and blog so that I wouldn't disturb anyone here. It's supposed to be a positive place. Even though they have ripped my heart out.

I knew they were going for an Eowyn moment with that line. I'm sure I said that somewhere. Although maybe it was not about Stannis

That was a lovely Stannis tribute Admin - and I think a lot of your show criticisms are valid. It's good you use your talent at writing to express that pain and frustration.

I know I've argued both sides a lot (I tend to be a fence sitter which is annoying) but overall I do agree the sudden downfall of Stannis was badly done from a bigger picture standpoint. It seems like they built his story up beautifully over a long period of time and then hacked it up in the final two episodes of the season very abruptly. I *think* they were trying to go for sudden tragedy but it came across wrong for some reason I can only attribute to some missed cues needed and rushed writing.

We should give Mr. Martin a little more credit as he did warn this might happen with the show a couple of seasons back I believe. That butterfly effect thing is happening and they seem to be struggling to make the puzzle pieces match up correctly this season. It was never going to align right simply because so much had to be cut from the massive books, but what they did put in got changed so dramatically for the Winterfell arc, I think it got lost along the way.

Stannis had a solid story and while many have predicted he dies in the books as well, we don't know how he dies or under what circumstances yet until we have the author's version in our hands. I never thought Stannis was going to be a glorious hero king who reunited the Seven Kingdoms .... but I certainly never expected him to go out the way they portrayed him on the show. I'm sorry they did that sati, and you've held it together really well all things considered. You're a great fan and while we continue to banter on here in this place you gave us, it's ok to be disenchanted with the show - really. I don't think anyone blames you at all.

I love this:

It hurts!

Everyone keeps saying he died but idk he's totally alive I mean we're still in season 3 right?? It's 2013 right??


My denial is still strong.