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Post by Deleted on Jun 15, 2015 4:59:24 GMT
5 more seasons would be monumentally stupid.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 15, 2015 4:59:29 GMT
Giving True Blood as an example of a show that switched showrunners is pretty hilarious given the absolute garbage that show devolved into after Ball left. I never saw the show, its just there is precedent for this. They need to go. We can get 5 seasons if they leave. HBO wants 10 seasons. They want 7. Kick their asses out. They are exhausted anyways, look at the crap they are making. Are you kidding me? You've never even seen True Blood and you're going to use that as your entire platform comparison as to why you think D&D should hand the show over to someone else? Well. I have to agree with King Tommen, THAT is shocking and distasteful. I'm certainly glad it's just your opinion and you're going to have a hard time selling that.
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Post by lordcarson on Jun 15, 2015 5:16:54 GMT
Giving True Blood as an example of a show that switched showrunners is pretty hilarious given the absolute garbage that show devolved into after Ball left. I never saw the show, its just there is precedent for this. They need to go. We can get 5 seasons if they leave. HBO wants 10 seasons. They want 7. Kick their asses out. They are exhausted anyways, look at the crap they are making. :poop:
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Post by King Tommen on Jun 15, 2015 6:28:20 GMT
The biggest shock for me is that they didn't go any further into Jon's stuff and ended right with a shot of him supposedly dead. And now they're going to double down (because they have to on account of how they decided to end things this season) and pretend like it's real.
All these declarations are going to be proven false in pretty short order. S6 filming is going to start in a few weeks and it's going to be pretty much impossible to hide Harrington's participation. He also will have to be listed for the main cast which you can't keep a secret. Maybe on another lower profile show, you can get away with some secrecy but GoT is the most closely scrutinized production going by a wide margin. Nothing will slip by the media or fanbase.
So all of this is going to be for nothing. They should've put the resurrection into the finale (even if it was ambiguous) and then they could avoided both the down note the season ends on as well as having to outright lie for a while before having to come clean later on.
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Post by Kyrion on Jun 15, 2015 6:29:06 GMT
I find it really hard to appreciate anyones opinion that thinks AFFC and ADWD were "drudgery". They are by far the best in the series. Oh well, guess the show appeals to these kinds of people and the books appeal to me. This show is just...yeah. Cant wait for Sati.
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Post by King Tommen on Jun 15, 2015 6:31:43 GMT
Also, despite apparently knowing about leaving the show since he got the S5 scripts back over a year ago, Harrington currently has nothing scheduled that he's due to be shooting for at this time. So yeah, this story is going to fall apart pretty damn quickly.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 15, 2015 6:38:10 GMT
I find it really hard to appreciate anyones opinion that thinks AFFC and ADWD were "drudgery". They are by far the best in the series. Oh well, guess the show appeals to these kinds of people and the books appeal to me. This show is just...yeah. Cant wait for Sati. I'm baffled that anyone can say that AFFC/ADWD are far better than ASOS, and I would say that even the book readers who enjoy them and don't like the show overwhelmingly agree, so I don't think your "kinds of people" point holds up.
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Post by King Tommen on Jun 15, 2015 6:38:50 GMT
I find it really hard to appreciate anyones opinion that thinks AFFC and ADWD were "drudgery". They are by far the best in the series. Oh well, guess the show appeals to these kinds of people and the books appeal to me. This show is just...yeah. Cant wait for Sati. You're free to like the 2 latest books but understand you are in the vast, vast minority when it comes to holding that opinion. ASoS is generally thought to be the best volume of the story and that's not really up for debate. That's why the show took 2 seasons to cover it off, all the best stuff happens there. I like the books but the last 2 were a significant downturn and suffer from Martin's left turn from wanting to tell the story he originally set out to do in favour of introducing a number of characters and locations that increase the ridiculous sprawl that he was already having trouble juggling. And in doing this, he caused his main protagonists (the ones his readers really care about) to dick around, spinning their wheels while everyone went off and had their own individual adventures and isolated themselves even further. Martin had the right instincts when he originally set out to make a trilogy like LOTR. The fact that he's dragged this thing out for 7 fucking books (with him now hemming and hawing about the possibility of having to make it eight) is the ultimate indicator that he's lost the track. Tell the story you originally set out to tell my man. Stop the world building for the love of all that is holy and sacred.
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Post by 7timesdamnedshewolf on Jun 15, 2015 6:45:01 GMT
I'm shocked they ended on FtW without spoiling one bit of Jon's resurrection, this whole second half of the season has been like they're trying to drive off unspoiled fans. Casual watchers aren't gonna know Kit's still in it from filming info.
Also, Myrcella being proud of being a twincest baby was bullshit and I was remembering the last father/daughter moment and expecting her to die in s6, not that very scene. Maybe Jaime and Brienne are meant for each other, they're neck-and-neck in the worst bodyguards ever olympics.
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Post by dany4eva on Jun 15, 2015 7:01:54 GMT
Arya's gory murder scene
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Post by Deleted on Jun 15, 2015 8:10:32 GMT
Stannis losing.
You were right, @konradsmith
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Post by Deleted on Jun 15, 2015 8:13:40 GMT
And ADwD is my favourite book. AFfC is the worst one.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 15, 2015 8:30:49 GMT
And ADwD is my favourite book. AFfC is the worst one. It's my least favorite. That's only because Dany, Jon, & Tyrion aren't in it. I think they're all great books. ADwD has some of Martin's very best writing (Reek/Theon), but ASoS is by far the best book overall imo.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 15, 2015 8:46:08 GMT
And ADwD is my favourite book. AFfC is the worst one. It's my least favorite. That's only because Dany, Jon, & Tyrion aren't in it. I think they're all great books. ADwD has some of Martin's very best writing (Reek/Theon), but ASoS is by far the best book overall imo. I think the reasons why AFfC and ADwD are viewed as slow has something to do with ASoS being so packed. Now that I think of it, ASoS is better than ADwD. But AFfC-ADwD combination is best.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 15, 2015 8:56:41 GMT
It's my least favorite. That's only because Dany, Jon, & Tyrion aren't in it. I think they're all great books. ADwD has some of Martin's very best writing (Reek/Theon), but ASoS is by far the best book overall imo. I think the reasons why AFfC and ADwD are viewed as slow has something to do with ASoS being so packed. Now that I think of it, ASoS is better than ADwD. But AFfC-ADwD combination is best. Fair enough. Like I said, I love them all. Just missed some of my favorites in Feast.
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Post by Enid on Jun 15, 2015 12:03:41 GMT
Myrcella was the big shock for me. I knew she was dead the moment Ellaria kissed her, but I was surprised Ellaria would do that with Trystane on board. I mean, not only has she disobeyed Doran, again, she has put his son in danger. I didn't expect Selyse to kill herself either.
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Post by 7timesdamnedshewolf on Jun 15, 2015 12:04:22 GMT
I think the reasons why AFfC and ADwD are viewed as slow has something to do with ASoS being so packed. Now that I think of it, ASoS is better than ADwD. But AFfC-ADwD combination is best. Fair enough. Like I said, I love them all. Just missed some of my favorites in Feast. Have you ever tried boiledleather's combined reading order? I found both books much easier to re-read that way.
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Post by Enid on Jun 15, 2015 12:09:15 GMT
I find it really hard to appreciate anyones opinion that thinks AFFC and ADWD were "drudgery". They are by far the best in the series. Oh well, guess the show appeals to these kinds of people and the books appeal to me. This show is just...yeah. Cant wait for Sati. I find hard to appreciate the opinion of people who don't respect other opinions just because they are different. On topic: another thing that surprised me (and was a relief) was how they adapted the Mercy chapter, it was hard to read the parts where Arya kisses Raff and he touches her so I'm glad the show didn't do it.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 15, 2015 12:13:41 GMT
Fair enough. Like I said, I love them all. Just missed some of my favorites in Feast. Have you ever tried boiledleather's combined reading order? I found both books much easier to re-read that way. Nope. Maybe my next reread.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 15, 2015 12:15:22 GMT
there is so much good material in AFFC and ADWD combined i don't know how can anyone think D&D did a good job of condensing them here.
This season didn't make me excited for the next one. That says something.
They had to have 7 seasons. just had to. I wouldn't have minded so much except they are pretty poor at planning things and so it doesn't end well when the greyjoys and riverlands now have to be in season 6.
The biggest shock for me this episode was the fact that i didn't enjoy the episode.
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