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Post by Admin on Jun 1, 2015 10:44:23 GMT
It looks that the burning camp scene is in ep.9 - we know for sure it's Stannis' camp and most likely Ramsay is attacking it.
Given how 'Stannis marches' in finale it looks he survives the attack. Also remember the last time someone took best men with them? It was Yara and we all know how it went. Hey, maybe she is actually in this episode? It would be cool if she helped Stannis defeat Ramsay and win his trust this way.
What do you think happens?
One think I assume will go down is that Mel freaks and runs and that leads her to believe Stannis is dead
I think there won't be pink letter. I assume Sansa runs into Stannis so we have to see him late in the finale. Unless Sansa runs into Brienne and they all go to the Wall.
Also my though is that whatever Shireen burning attempt takes place early in the episode and the last time we see the camp is Ramsay torching stuff
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Post by boojam on Jun 1, 2015 11:09:06 GMT
Ramsay saying , give me 20 men, 20 men?
That's not enough to raid Stannis's pantry!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 1, 2015 20:42:31 GMT
Pod and Brienne help Theon help Sansa escape Winterfell, while Ramsay is gone. Sansa kills Myranda who kills Pod. Brienne possibly dies or gets captured. Theon and Sansa run to Stannis.
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Post by Nezzer on Jun 1, 2015 23:14:19 GMT
It looks like Ramsay and his men will use horses to run through Stannis' camp throwing torches at his tents.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2015 1:10:01 GMT
Ramsay likes to show off and thinks using guerilla tactics is more "fun" than waiting around in the castle turtled up like Dad. It's all part of his psychopath mentality to want to take the risky way and play terrorist tactics. It's actually not a bad idea if you are willing to be expendable and obviously Roose is ok with that. It's basically just stirring up the hornet's nest and meant to confuse/rile the Stannis troops. I doubt anyone significant dies in the skirmish but I could be wrong.
I'm starting to think that notorious shot of Selyse fallen in the snow with a stricken look is because that's right when Mel decides "Fuck this" and takes off for the wall because she just saw Jon in some vision from the Hardhome massacre or FTW.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2015 1:12:25 GMT
PS: If Roose hasn't figured out that his son is now a complete risky liability to the stability of his household, then they are making him look very stupid on the show IMO. He needs to do the "Rue the day" lines and smack Ramsay down once and for all or get rid of him. He's just too much of a loose cannon.
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Post by day dreamer on Jun 2, 2015 2:12:52 GMT
I wonder if Brienne and Pod would try to follow Ramsay to ensure that he dies? It's highly unlikely but it would be different since we all expect them to assist Theon and Sansa.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2015 4:33:15 GMT
I definitely think that Mel has her vision right before Ramsay attacks and that that'll prompt her to abandon Stan. I still think there might be a Pink Letter though because the 510 summary says "Jon is challenged" and the Pink Letter was very much Ramsay challenging Jon. For the Watch COULD be described as a "challenge" I guess and of course GoT summaries do often make massive understatements about huge events...but I dunno. We've had Ramsay bringing up Jon in ep. 507, so I hope we get the bastard versus bastard conflict that GrrM set up.
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Post by Admin on Jun 2, 2015 5:47:01 GMT
I definitely think that Mel has her vision right before Ramsay attacks and that that'll prompt her to abandon Stan. I still think there might be a Pink Letter though because the 510 summary says "Jon is challenged" and the Pink Letter was very much Ramsay challenging Jon. For the Watch COULD be described as a "challenge" I guess and of course GoT summaries do often make massive understatements about huge events...but I dunno. We've had Ramsay bringing up Jon in ep. 507, so I hope we get the bastard versus bastard conflict that GrrM set up. Normally I'd think 'challenged' is FTW given their batshit euphemisms in descriptions but there was also that bit with Jon and Sam talking about Roose before Mel walked in and went full nympho, so it's possible that Jon receives the word - perhaps also including news of Sansa - which gets him to want to help his friends and that's where FTW happens |
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Post by Admin on Jun 2, 2015 5:48:26 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2015 6:03:43 GMT
i really want ramsay to die or be captured. but that aint going to happen. i think what will happen is ramsay just wants to cause havoc for stannis. So he'll get the 20 men to attack at night and light some tents and then leave on their horses back for winterfell.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2015 6:09:44 GMT
Here's a postimg of a shot that plays for a fraction of a second in the 509 promo. It took a while to pause the video the right time, that's how briefly it played for. An overhead shot of Stan's camp alight. postimg.org/image/x7ghgezhb/ |
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Post by Admin on Jun 2, 2015 7:04:03 GMT
i really want ramsay to die or be captured. but that aint going to happen. i think what will happen is ramsay just wants to cause havoc for stannis. So he'll get the 20 men to attack at night and light some tents and then leave on their horses back for winterfell. That would be a bigger waste of time than Yara vs dogs.... |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2015 7:08:55 GMT
i really want ramsay to die or be captured. but that aint going to happen. i think what will happen is ramsay just wants to cause havoc for stannis. So he'll get the 20 men to attack at night and light some tents and then leave on their horses back for winterfell. That would be a bigger waste of time than Yara vs dogs.... wouldn't be the first time... i think thats the more likely scenario?? Do you actually think ramsay gets captured and dies? |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2015 7:36:28 GMT
If it drives Mel to abandon Stan then it's not insignificant. If it weakens Stan's position and pushes him into desperation then it's not insignificant. Bear in mind y'all, it's in an episode nine and David fucking Nutter's directing it, so I really doubt it'll be some useless scene.
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Post by Admin on Jun 2, 2015 7:40:36 GMT
If it drives Mel to abandon Stan then it's not insignificant. If it weakens Stan's position and pushes him into desperation then it's not insignificant. Bear in mind y'all, it's in an episode nine and David fucking Nutter's directing it, so I really doubt it'll be some useless scene.
I don't think Rams has to die or be captured for it to be a big deal. How is Ramsay and 20 morons attacking Stannis connected to Mel abandoning Stannis for Jon? And Stannis's army is already weakened no need to use cheap tricks and waste time to add to that point. It's Sansa and reasons to hate the Boltons all over again. |
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Post by Nezzer on Jun 2, 2015 8:12:11 GMT
Has there ever been a bad scene in a David Nutter episode? I think Hardhome raised people's expectations for the last two episodes far too much. I'm kinda worried about how they are going to resolve the Stanns vs. Boltons conflict this season. Not worried about any character's well being, but from a storywise perspective. So Ramsay is going to burn a few tents and then what? What happens to him to give him all those bruises? Stannis isn't dying in episode 8 because he's mentioned in the synopsis for episode 10, but could Ramsay die or be captured already?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2015 8:40:16 GMT
You know, I thought about this while watching Iwan's interview in the Stannis camp. They've given him bloody cuts and bruises much like someone who has been in a fist-fight, not sword fighting - don't you think? Just pure speculation here, but if Ramsay were going to die, I don't think he'd look 'beat up' like that do you? To me it looks more like he either gets in some sort of scuffle with someone before escaping, or gets captured and that makeup is showing him after they've filmed some roughing up by Stannis-men when they bring him in, if anything.
I've got a pretty good hunch he's going to get away though. I don't know why but like others, I don't see him getting captured or killed yet. Not before Sansa gets away unless those two things happen back to back in the next episode or two.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2015 9:03:10 GMT
If it drives Mel to abandon Stan then it's not insignificant. If it weakens Stan's position and pushes him into desperation then it's not insignificant. Bear in mind y'all, it's in an episode nine and David fucking Nutter's directing it, so I really doubt it'll be some useless scene.
I don't think Rams has to die or be captured for it to be a big deal. And Stannis's army is already weakened no need to use cheap tricks and waste time to add to that point. It's Sansa and reasons to hate the Boltons all over again. Because they likely happen on the same night. Ramsay's attack is at nighttime and the shot of Mel with her lantern looking at something outside in horror is at nighttime too.
The second trailer sure implied that they were related by showing the shot below right before the above Mel-with-a-lantern shot.
My guess is that she sees something in the flames in her tent (as in the 509 promo) which points to Jon rather than Stannis being AA and then she hears something outside and hearing Stan's camp under attack to her confirms her vision, leading her to ride off for CB.
So even if this is the only monumental outcome of Ramsay's raid, it would still be enough to make it episode 9 David Nutter-worthy material.
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Post by Admin on Jun 2, 2015 9:20:36 GMT
I don't think we will get Mel seeing flames, to me she looks like she is just scared because someone is attacking the camp.
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