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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2015 13:33:49 GMT
I have zero problems with her hating the shiw but her telling people to kill themselves is gross What is baffling however is why on earth did cogman ever think of her as a friend? She treats the books like they are infallible. She also treats it the show as fanfiction, while GRRM has repeatedly dismissed this notion and has shown nothing but support for the show. I agree Sati. She's entitled to her opinion, but I'm entitled to mine. She's an fucking idiot. Well here's the thing. There's a clear difference between someone (like Sati for example) who loves the ASOIAF universe and creates a fan forum to support the show and give us a place to discuss it and someone like Linda who has actually been endorsed and supported by GRRM himself and has been involved with his actual literature. She's certainly entitled to dislike the show's take on the story the same as Sati - but she's not entitled to use her position and social media leverage to defame and spew hatred at the show, it's creators and other fans on a regular basis the way she is doing. That is slander in the business world and she should be taken down to be honest. She's hurting the credibility of World of Ice and Fire as a direct contributor and business associate. This is inappropriate and if she were a VP in a Corporation and talked like that she'd be fired instantly. You don't shit-talk your company. Period. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2015 13:40:45 GMT
PS: I hope anyone on twitter who follows Cogman thanks him for putting her in her place and I hope others are as well. If enough people put pressure on her via positive reinforcement to those who actually have some pull (like Cogman) then maybe they'll finally put a muzzle on her.  |
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Post by boojam on Sept 23, 2015 13:53:51 GMT
Why can't she just shut up She's gonna explode in an oily cloud someday. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2015 14:00:17 GMT
It's just sad how a grown woman who is a co-writer of a successful book isn't able to argue and thus throws around insults and threats like a pubescent teenager.
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Post by boojam on Sept 23, 2015 14:01:54 GMT
Well with all this Emmy action I think back that season 6 was greenlighted two years ago, and HBO signed contracts for season 7, so now this may mean season 8 is greenlighted. With the Emmy wins does thin mean even bigger contracts for season 8? What does it mean for season 8!?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2015 14:03:39 GMT
Well with all this Emmy action I think back that season 6 was greenlighted two years ago, and HBO signed contracts for season 7, so now this may mean season 8 is greenlighted. With the Emmy wins does thin mean even bigger contracts for season 8? What does it mean for season 8!? I wouldn't be surprised if we got big-budget feature film battles in future seasons. |
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Post by boojam on Sept 23, 2015 14:10:59 GMT
Well with all this Emmy action I think back that season 6 was greenlighted two years ago, and HBO signed contracts for season 7, so now this may mean season 8 is greenlighted. With the Emmy wins does thin mean even bigger contracts for season 8? What does it mean for season 8!? I wouldn't be surprised if we got big-budget feature film battles in future seasons. I wonder about that, does not seem out of the realm of possibility, tho it would be a first for HBO, I think. As I have noted 'Warner' is part of the parent company. Thinking Ep 8, 9, 10 may show up at IMAX early next year. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2015 15:30:43 GMT
Did she respond to him?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2015 16:28:33 GMT
I can't find any tweets between bcog and linda  could someone summarise..? |
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Post by Admin on Sept 23, 2015 16:31:14 GMT
I have zero problems with her hating the shiw but her telling people to kill themselves is gross What is baffling however is why on earth did cogman ever think of her as a friend? She treats the books like they are infallible. She also treats it the show as fanfiction, while GRRM has repeatedly dismissed this notion and has shown nothing but support for the show. I agree Sati. She's entitled to her opinion, but I'm entitled to mine. She's an fucking idiot. She is a fucking idiot, true, But George saying the show isn't fan fiction is merely his opinion which I personally strongly disagree |
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Post by Admin on Sept 23, 2015 16:32:55 GMT
She treats the books like they are infallible. She also treats it the show as fanfiction, while GRRM has repeatedly dismissed this notion and has shown nothing but support for the show. I agree Sati. She's entitled to her opinion, but I'm entitled to mine. She's an fucking idiot. Well here's the thing. There's a clear difference between someone (like Sati for example) who loves the ASOIAF universe and creates a fan forum to support the show and give us a place to discuss it and someone like Linda who has actually been endorsed and supported by GRRM himself and has been involved with his actual literature. She's certainly entitled to dislike the show's take on the story the same as Sati - but she's not entitled to use her position and social media leverage to defame and spew hatred at the show, it's creators and other fans on a regular basis the way she is doing. That is slander in the business world and she should be taken down to be honest. She's hurting the credibility of World of Ice and Fire as a direct contributor and business associate. This is inappropriate and if she were a VP in a Corporation and talked like that she'd be fired instantly. You don't shit-talk your company. Period. Imho her trashing the show doesn't do that, but her language and general way she talks to people does |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2015 16:43:04 GMT
She treats the books like they are infallible. She also treats it the show as fanfiction, while GRRM has repeatedly dismissed this notion and has shown nothing but support for the show. I agree Sati. She's entitled to her opinion, but I'm entitled to mine. She's an fucking idiot. She is a fucking idiot, true, But George saying the show isn't fan fiction is merely his opinion which I personally strongly disagree but it's his story... if anyone gets to declare whether or not it's fanfiction it's him? |
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Post by mattpeto on Sept 23, 2015 16:46:11 GMT
I mean none of it is real, so I guess it's in the eye of the beholder.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2015 16:48:30 GMT
Besides, fanfiction is by definition not authorized by the original creator and is not professionally published. GRRM authorized it, so it's not fanfiction. What people mean to say is that the adaptation differs from the source material. Fanfiction is the wrong term for that.
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Post by Admin on Sept 23, 2015 16:58:41 GMT
She is a fucking idiot, true, But George saying the show isn't fan fiction is merely his opinion which I personally strongly disagree but it's his story... if anyone gets to declare whether or not it's fanfiction it's him? Imho the author has no say when it comes to what is or isn't fan fiction, it's the matter of opinion and his is very, very wrong here. I mean really if that ain't fan fiction  then I'm not sure what is. |
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Post by Admin on Sept 23, 2015 16:59:22 GMT
Besides, fanfiction is by definition not authorized by the original creator and is not professionally published. GRRM authorized it, so it's not fanfiction. What people mean to say is that the adaptation differs from the source material. Fanfiction is the wrong term for that. Oh, I apologize. Bad scripts loosely inspired by the book series. Better? |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2015 17:13:40 GMT
Besides, fanfiction is by definition not authorized by the original creator and is not professionally published. GRRM authorized it, so it's not fanfiction. What people mean to say is that the adaptation differs from the source material. Fanfiction is the wrong term for that. Oh, I apologize. Bad scripts loosely inspired by the book series. Better? Yes, because now you are not misusing the word "fanfiction" any longer.  When the creator of a story says that the story is canon, then it's freaking canon. Who else should decide that? Now in this case there are two canons: book!canon and show!canon. Neither one is more real than the other. You may prefer one over the other, that's ok. But both have a right to exist. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2015 17:14:16 GMT
Don't hate. Create.
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Post by Admin on Sept 23, 2015 17:22:14 GMT
Oh, I apologize. Bad scripts loosely inspired by the book series. Better? Yes, because now you are not misusing the word "fanfiction" any longer. When the creator of a story says that the story is canon, then it's freaking canon. Who else should decide that? Now in this case there are two canons: book!canon and show!canon. Neither one is more real than the other. You may prefer one over the other, that's ok. But both have a right to exist. I just can't agree with that. One was created by Martin, the other was loosely inspired by what he wrote. There is no such thing as two cannons imho unless Westeros is set in parallel universes |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2015 17:23:04 GMT
Yes, because now you are not misusing the word "fanfiction" any longer. When the creator of a story says that the story is canon, then it's freaking canon. Who else should decide that? Now in this case there are two canons: book!canon and show!canon. Neither one is more real than the other. You may prefer one over the other, that's ok. But both have a right to exist. I just can't agree with that. One was created by Martin, the other was loosely inspired by what he wrote. There is no such thing as two cannons imho unless Westeros is set in parallel universes Ok, then let's just agree to disagree. |
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When the creator of a story says that the story is canon, then it's freaking canon. Who else should decide that? Now in this case there are two canons: book!canon and show!canon. Neither one is more real than the other. You may prefer one over the other, that's ok. But both have a right to exist.