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Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2015 5:07:19 GMT
Yeah it really makes me wonder if Game of Thrones will ever win Best Drama Series. I think case 1 would be 3 and 5 only because they were stronger in writing and acting and didn't have Dorne.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2015 9:41:04 GMT
I can't see GoT winning drama series this year. The reception has been considerably more muted than previous years, so it will likely go to Mad Men.
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Post by kingeomer on Jun 2, 2015 12:38:33 GMT
Emmys have had a long tradition of nominating people and shows yearly and never selecting them as winners (Hi Hugh Laurie! Steve Carell and possibly Jon Hamm).
I could see the show possibly getting another best show nod, writing and directing. Dinklage has been a yearly nominee and I expect to see him in again. I think the show will also submit Kit Harington, who won't be nominated and possibly Alfie Allen who should be nominated but won't be.
Supporting actress, they'll submit Emilia, Lena and Sophie. Best shot of a nod, Lena. They used to submit 6 actors for the acting categories and I think they realized they were cancelling each other out, so HBO pared down their submissions. Some actors have submitted themselves like Shae and Natalie Dormer.
Jonathan Pryce for guest actor. He's probably the best shot to actually win. The others just don't have enough screen time compared to other supporting actors on other shows. Dinklage did win for season 1, but the show and character had a ton of buzz at that time.
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Post by freypies on Jun 2, 2015 12:58:28 GMT
I can't see GoT winning drama series this year. The reception has been considerably more muted than previous years, so it will likely go to Mad Men. The reception changed a lot with Hardhome though. If they are able to keep that quality going for the next two hours, I don't think there has been anything on TV in the last year that will be able to compete. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 2, 2015 13:06:16 GMT
I can't see GoT winning drama series this year. The reception has been considerably more muted than previous years, so it will likely go to Mad Men. The reception changed a lot with Hardhome though. If they are able to keep that quality going for the next two hours, I don't think there has been anything on TV in the last year that will be able to compete. Even if nothing does compare, GoT will still have a hill to climb not only because the reception to the front end of the season was so bad (at least, relative to what it should be to win drama series) but also because it's a fantasy. The TV academy still likes to shy away from genre stuff and go for something more conventional/grounded in reality. I mean, it's not impossible and I would love to be proved wrong  So I'll keep my fingers crossed. |
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Post by freypies on Jun 2, 2015 13:15:42 GMT
The reception changed a lot with Hardhome though. If they are able to keep that quality going for the next two hours, I don't think there has been anything on TV in the last year that will be able to compete. Even if nothing does compare, GoT will still have a hill to climb not only because the reception to the front end of the season was so bad (at least, relative to what it should be to win drama series) but also because it's a fantasy. The TV academy still likes to shy away from genre stuff and go for something more conventional/grounded in reality. I mean, it's not impossible and I would love to be proved wrong So I'll keep my fingers crossed. Yeah, I agree with you that it is hard for a fantasy to win an Emmy. However, from what I recall, the reception to the first half was pretty positive, with only The House of Black and White (96%) getting less than a 100% from critics on RT. The only episode that was not liked by critics was the sixth one so far, and I think that, over time, the bad taste it may have left in some of their mouths may fade away. I think the best way to evaluate the chances is to compare GoT to its closest competitors, which are probably House of Cards and Mad Men. House of Cards wrapped up a less-than-stellar season, and I'm pretty sure is out of the race. That simply leaves Mad Men, which, while good, was nothing spectacular, and has lost the awards show hype that it used to have. Its last season may give it a boost, but Game of Thrones may generate enough goodwill from the last two episodes to snag the awards. I think the chances of it winning are better than they have ever been this season. |
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Post by freypies on Jun 2, 2015 13:18:07 GMT
Also, regardless of whether it wins the big one this year, I think that GoT is a lock for VFX, stunts, make up & prosthetics, sound mixing, and probably even directing due to Hardhome. This episode is easily the most impressive and well-liked episode of the year out of any that has aired on TV.
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Post by day dreamer on Jun 2, 2015 13:36:28 GMT
I don't see GoT winning this year either. They'll give it to Mad Men as a send off. They'll have a better chance next year. House of Cards could still be strong competition to them, same with True Detective if season 2 is strong.
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Post by freypies on Jun 2, 2015 13:51:57 GMT
I don't see GoT winning this year either. They'll give it to Mad Men as a send off. They'll have a better chance next year. House of Cards could still be strong competition to them, same with True Detective if season 2 is strong. True Detective can only compete in the Mini-Series category from now on. |
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Post by day dreamer on Jun 2, 2015 14:54:37 GMT
I don't see GoT winning this year either. They'll give it to Mad Men as a send off. They'll have a better chance next year. House of Cards could still be strong competition to them, same with True Detective if season 2 is strong. True Detective can only compete in the Mini-Series category from now on. Really? Good. They should've been there to begin with. Putting them in Drama 2 years ago was dumb on HBO's part. They would've won far more Emmys in the mini series category. |
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Post by morgantayler on Jun 3, 2015 4:33:30 GMT
For real, Birgitte should get a guest star Emmy for Hardhome.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 3, 2015 9:58:18 GMT
For real, Birgitte should get a guest star Emmy for Hardhome. she was good but I wouldn't go that far, personally  |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 3, 2015 10:58:35 GMT
Kit for his speech in the last episode. That whole "we might not be a match, but at least we can give them a fucking fight!" Scene was probably one of the best this series, definitely one of Jons best scenes ever. Plus Kit has really had a great series.
He or Lena deserve it.
I cant see the wheel scene winning it. Even Tyrion looked bored jk. I think the trailer wore the line thin for me.
I'd like to see someone outside of the fan favourites like Alfie, Pryce or Dillane win it, but they would never get the nomination, sadly. They are some of the most consistently good actors. They deserve to be recognised for it.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 3, 2015 11:12:34 GMT
Kit won't make it with Emmy favourite Peter Dinklage in the same category. It is possible to see a complete snub in supporting actress now that the new Emmy rules dictate that Orange is the New Black is a drama (WTF). OitNB has so many possibilities in that category that I could easily see a complete Thrones shut out. I also don't think it will help either of them that both actresses are going to have huge, Emmy-bait moments in Daznak and the WoS. Daznak will likely be received similarly to 304 which got Emilia nominated the last time and Lena is obviously going to kill the walk. They could potentially steal some votes from each other. I just go to bed every night praying for Sophie  |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 3, 2015 11:19:36 GMT
Kit won't make it with Emmy favourite Peter Dinklage in the same category. It is possible to see a complete snub in supporting actress now that the new Emmy rules dictate that Orange is the New Black is a drama (WTF). OitNB has so many possibilities in that category that I could easily see a complete Thrones shut out. I also don't think it will help either of them that both actresses are going to have huge, Emmy-bait moments in Daznak and the WoS. Daznak will likely be received similarly to 304 which got Emilia nominated the last time and Lena is obviously going to kill the walk. They could potentially steal some votes from each other. I just go to bed every night praying for Sophie Has Peter done anything emmy worthy this series? Hes a great actor, but nominating him purely for the sake of nominating him, ahead of actors far more deserving makes no sense. Also Orange is the New Black is classed as a drama? Okay... I get that it will be taken more seripusly as a drama, but it seems like theyre trying to stick mega blocks on their legos here. Lena winning the Emmy would be great, and Emilia might have an amazing scene coming up, so who knows. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 3, 2015 11:26:13 GMT
It's the Emmys. They'll keep nominating him until they get bored of him, and I don't really see that happening. They can be very lazy with their nominations at times and I honestly think a lot of blind-voting takes place (see: Ellen Burstyn getting nominated a few years ago for a 14 second cameo, WTF).
Yeah, they changed the rules this year to state that anything longer than 30 minutes would automatically be categorised as drama, although the networks are able to appeal to be (correctly, in many cases) categorised as a comedy. I don't know what they were smoking when they made that decision, but it was dumb. Iirc, a lot of people felt it was a deliberate move to screw over OitnB in particular, since their appeal to be categorised as a comedy was, conveniently, rejected.
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Post by sj4iy on Jun 4, 2015 19:38:31 GMT
I can't see GoT winning drama series this year. The reception has been considerably more muted than previous years, so it will likely go to Mad Men. Normally, I would agree with you. Up until this past week, I would have for sure. But if the last two episodes can match or even come close to what we saw in episode 8, I think it has a chance because Mad Men wasn't that good this season, and nowhere near as good as Breaking Bad's final season. As far as Kit or Peter being nominated, I honestly don't see it happening for either of them...although I would say that Kit has had a better series this year than Peter by a mile. He's essentially become the new leading man of GoT between last season and this season. Of course, I'm sure they will submit him as a nominee (both of them), but I don't see a nomination for either of them, unless Kit's FTW scene is just outstanding beyond belief...but he's really not the right 'type' of role that gets nominated. Guess we'll see. |
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Post by kingeomer on Jun 4, 2015 19:54:01 GMT
I can't see GoT winning drama series this year. The reception has been considerably more muted than previous years, so it will likely go to Mad Men. Normally, I would agree with you. Up until this past week, I would have for sure. But if the last two episodes can match or even come close to what we saw in episode 8, I think it has a chance because Mad Men wasn't that good this season, and nowhere near as good as Breaking Bad's final season. As far as Kit or Peter being nominated, I honestly don't see it happening for either of them...although I would say that Kit has had a better series this year than Peter by a mile. He's essentially become the new leading man of GoT between last season and this season. Of course, I'm sure they will submit him as a nominee (both of them), but I don't see a nomination for either of them, unless Kit's FTW scene is just outstanding beyond belief...but he's really not the right 'type' of role that gets nominated. Guess we'll see. I think GoT will get a best series nod this year, but it won't win. Peter not being nominated would be a shock, though, while he was good this season I don't think he's had anything that was Emmy worthy. He's been nominated for every season, so he might be an automatic check off for the voters. As for Kit, HBO will submit him like they have done every year. He won't get nominated though. I do think with OINTB in the drama category... the supporting actress in a drama becomes very competitive. Taylor Schilling will probably be up for lead actress. I think OINTB would have good submissions in supporting for Kate Mulgrew, Samira Wiley, Lorraine Toussant and the actress who played Rosa. All four of those ladies did outstanding work on the last season of the show. Emilia, Lena and Sophie will be facing tough competition getting nominated but I think those are the three HBO submits this year. |
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Post by sj4iy on Jun 4, 2015 20:15:47 GMT
My guesses for the 'main' emmys:
GoT nom. for best series; no win.
GoT ep. 8 for best directing...possible win here.
GoT nom for best writing (unsure of which ep); no win.
Lena nom for best supporting actress; no win.
I don't think Peter will be nom for best actor, but the emmys seem to love him even when he's not very good, so I wouldn't be surprised.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 4, 2015 20:30:09 GMT
I can't see GoT winning drama series this year. The reception has been considerably more muted than previous years, so it will likely go to Mad Men. Normally, I would agree with you. Up until this past week, I would have for sure. But if the last two episodes can match or even come close to what we saw in episode 8, I think it has a chance because Mad Men wasn't that good this season, and nowhere near as good as Breaking Bad's final season. As far as Kit or Peter being nominated, I honestly don't see it happening for either of them...although I would say that Kit has had a better series this year than Peter by a mile. He's essentially become the new leading man of GoT between last season and this season. Of course, I'm sure they will submit him as a nominee (both of them), but I don't see a nomination for either of them, unless Kit's FTW scene is just outstanding beyond belief...but he's really not the right 'type' of role that gets nominated. Guess we'll see. It's going to take a lot more than just one good episode to convince me that it's possible, though, unless both match Hardhome in quality for it to even have a chance. I just don't see it. As for Kit, it's not going to happen. Peter will get his nomination as before, even though he has had a slow year. The Emmys are usually very forgiving when a favourite has a slow year. They don't (often) lose interest straight away, so I think his position is safe. If nothing else, the blind-voting that absolutely does take place will see him nominated. Kit was awesome in episode 8, but Jon Snow is really not the type of character to get awards recognition (some think he's boring and he's very internal) and Kit doesn't have a good enough reputation as an actor to overcome that. I know the GoT fandom has, largely, considered him quite good since season 4, but outwith this fandom (and in particular with the non-IMDb-dwelling cinephiles), he is still considered pretty shit. |
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So I'll keep my fingers crossed. 
