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Post by Deleted on May 25, 2015 17:26:35 GMT
He's not dead yet. Either that or we're pretending he doesnt exist. I'll be pretty shocked if we end the series without seeing him or any of the Ironorn though. Sansa mentioned him to Theon so it seems that D&D did remember he existed at some point. When? Last mention of him that I remember of was Moat Cailin last season. |
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Post by Deleted on May 25, 2015 17:33:00 GMT
Sansa mentioned him to Theon so it seems that D&D did remember he existed at some point. When? Last mention of him that I remember of was Moat Cailin last season. She said something like 'You are the son of Balon Greyjoy'. |
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Post by Deleted on May 25, 2015 17:47:42 GMT
Sansa mentioned him to Theon so it seems that D&D did remember he existed at some point. When? Last mention of him that I remember of was Moat Cailin last season. When she asked him to light the candle for her. "You are Theon Greyjoy, last surviving son of Balon Greyjoy, lord of the Iron Islands". or something like that. |
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Post by Deleted on May 25, 2015 17:49:35 GMT
We don't really have any time for the Greyjoys in episode 8.. Perhaps Yara will get 1 scene where she gets captured. That would suck.
EDIT: Do the Greyjoys hold any strongholds in the North anymore on the show canon?
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Post by Deleted on May 25, 2015 17:59:46 GMT
We don't really have any time for the Greyjoys in episode 8.. Perhaps Yara will get 1 scene where she gets captured. That would suck. I'm now really doubting that Yara appears at all this season, unless in the finale. Stannis doesn't appear in 5x08 I think, but he is confirmed to appear in both 5x09 and the finale. With the camps on fire propably in 5x09 and preparations for Battle of Ice and talk with Theon and Sansa in the finale, I don't think she (Yara) will appear at all. Then she could appear next season, with Urine Euron. Argh. I don't know. The whole ironborn plotline is a mess. They should have killed Yara already. And come on, if Balon survives yet THIS season, I will seriously laugh my ass off. He was the FIRST king to die of the three. He should've been dead since 3x08. And still, he is alive by now, 5x07. |
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Post by Deleted on May 25, 2015 18:00:07 GMT
We don't really have any time for the Greyjoys in episode 8.. Perhaps Yara will get 1 scene where she gets captured. That would suck. EDIT: Do the Greyjoys hold any strongholds in the North anymore on the show canon? Deepwood Motte at least. |
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Post by Deleted on May 25, 2015 18:08:52 GMT
We don't really have any time for the Greyjoys in episode 8.. Perhaps Yara will get 1 scene where she gets captured. That would suck. I'm now really doubting that Yara appears at all this season, unless in the finale. Stannis doesn't appear in 5x08 I think, but he is confirmed to appear in both 5x09 and the finale. With the camps on fire propably in 5x09 and preparations for Battle of Ice and talk with Theon and Sansa in the finale, I don't think she (Yara) will appear at all. Then she could appear next season, with Urine Euron. Argh. I don't know. The whole ironborn plotline is a mess. They should have killed Yara already. And come on, if Balon survives yet THIS season, I will seriously laugh my ass off. He was the FIRST king to die of the three. He should've been dead since 3x08. And still, he is alive by now, 5x07. But Yara is confirmed to be on this season? I really hope that we see Balon dying this season and Yara beign captured, but we're running out of time. Euron is still a massive questionmark for season 6. |
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Post by Deleted on May 25, 2015 18:09:16 GMT
We don't really have any time for the Greyjoys in episode 8.. Perhaps Yara will get 1 scene where she gets captured. That would suck. EDIT: Do the Greyjoys hold any strongholds in the North anymore on the show canon? Deepwood Motte at least. Now that's a place where Stannis should go. |
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Post by Admin on May 25, 2015 18:40:04 GMT
Who helped Tyrion out of chains and why?
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Post by Deleted on May 25, 2015 18:41:37 GMT
Who helped Tyrion out of chains and why? Not certain, but I think it was a random slave, and most likely out of pity or brotherhood |
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Post by janicia on May 25, 2015 19:04:26 GMT
I can now see Kevin coming back to KL to help Tommen now that Cersei is in prison. W Would he be able to get to KL quickly enough? I mean that's too fast even for jetpack travel. As for Sansa, I love how much she's showing her growth. She's trying all sorts of things to get herself out of this situation. I think there's definitely something bad brewing with Ramsey and his "new" sibling. Just as Roose said in the books, nothing worse than a young heir. I couldn't help but notice Sansa's reaction to Jon being LC of the Watch and made me wonder if the show will have her assume Alys Karstark's role. Anyone think she might flee on horse back to the Wall? I don't know if that would happen this season since Sophie says her finale will be ambiguous but I really felt as if they were setting that up. I expect/hope that there will be a small council meeting in 5x08 or 5x09 consisting of Tommen, Pycelle, Kevan, Qyburn, Littlefinger?, and maybe Olenna. There is indeterminate amount of time passing between episodes. 5x07 seemed to be a week or two after 5x06 except in Dorne where it was about a day after the last Dornish scene. I am still surprised that Pycelle and Qyburn haven't had much to do this season, but then they struggle to be as interesting as the Cersei / Margaery / Olenna / Tommen stuff. Good point about Sansa's reaction to the news about Jon - Sansa probably will want to flee to Jon when she gets out of Winterfell. I thought it worked well for Ramsay to drop that piece of news - clearly the Boltons had gotten Jon's letter. But also, it came off like Ramsay draws comfort from the successes of other bastards. I really like the way the show portrays Ramsay's insecurity about his status, and Roose's careful cultivation of that insecurity. |
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Post by janicia on May 25, 2015 19:13:51 GMT
It's weird how it's convenient for some info to become widely known , or at least known, and some not. Ramsay knowing about Jon being lord-commander and no one in KL has a clue as to what LF has been doing ever since he left. Jon explicitly sent a letter to the Boltons as Lord Commander of the night's watch. And the Boltons have had Jon on their radar since Theon told them that Bran and Rickon would probably go to Jon. Of course the Boltons know that Jon is Lord Commander. As for Kings Landing's poor intelligence services - Varys hated both Tywin and Joffrey and couldn't have liked Cersei much. He always filtered the information he gave them. And his replacement doesn't seem to have any interest in spying at all and certainly doesn't have a country-wide network of spies. And Pycelle and Cersei haven't been getting along, so even if Pycelle learned something it isn't clear that he'd tell her or that she'd listen. |
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Post by janicia on May 25, 2015 19:16:10 GMT
I wonder if Selyse on the ground could be her reaction to Mel leaving to go back to Castle Black and thinking they're doomed to lose now. Doubt it but that would be interesting. It seems like Ramsay is going to raid Stannis' camp. Couldn't Selyse on the ground be part of that sequence and be unrelated to whatever goes down with Shireen? |
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Post by janicia on May 25, 2015 19:21:40 GMT
Now that Sam has given his obsidian dagger to Jon, do you think he will use it to kill an Other at Hardhome. Apparently the WW who brought Craster's last son to NK is in next episode, so could it be that Jon kills that guy? I'm curious about how Hardholme goes. Surely Jon and Tormund survive and get a bunch of wildlings to safety south of the Wall, so it seems like it will go better than in the books. Will it be considered by the characters to be a successful mission? I also don't see Jon being established as a warg this season. If that was going to happen it should have happened already. Which makes me very curious about his future. |
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Post by boojam on May 25, 2015 19:26:36 GMT
It's weird how it's convenient for some info to become widely known , or at least known, and some not. Ramsay knowing about Jon being lord-commander and no one in KL has a clue as to what LF has been doing ever since he left. Jon explicitly sent a letter to the Boltons as Lord Commander of the night's watch. And the Boltons have had Jon on their radar since Theon told them that Bran and Rickon would probably go to Jon. Of course the Boltons know that Jon is Lord Commander. As for Kings Landing's poor intelligence services - Varys hated both Tywin and Joffrey and couldn't have liked Cersei much. He always filtered the information he gave them. And his replacement doesn't seem to have any interest in spying at all and certainly doesn't have a country-wide network of spies. And Pycelle and Cersei haven't been getting along, so even if Pycelle learned something it isn't clear that he'd tell her or that she'd listen. Has to more than one source of info or the way to get it in KL. |
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Post by Deleted on May 25, 2015 22:23:10 GMT
During the rewatch this afternoon, the irony in Cerise's little speech to Tommen really jumped out. "No matter who you are, no matter how strong you are, sooner or later you will face circumstances beyond your control. Events that you couldn't possibly have anticipated or prevented, even if you had." She clearly never dreamed . . .
And Tommen: "I will call in the army, I'll take back the sept and kill every last one of them." Not to imply that he's like Joff, of course, but those words do ring a bell, don't they? As did hearing Cersei scream, "I am the QUEEN", exactly like Margery had.
Oh, how quickly it can all turn to shit.
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Post by Deleted on May 25, 2015 22:32:22 GMT
During the rewatch this afternoon, the irony in Cerise's little speech to Tommen really jumped out. "No matter who you are, no matter how strong you are, sooner or later you will face circumstances beyond your control. Events that you couldn't possibly have anticipated or prevented, even if you had." She clearly never dreamed . . . And Tommen: "I will call in the army, I'll take back the sept and kill every last one of them." Not to imply that he's like Joff, of course, but those words do ring a bell, don't they? As did hearing Cersei scream, "I am the QUEEN", exactly like Margery had. Oh, how quickly it can all turn to shit. This one remembers me also of Robb crying in Catelyn arms saying 'I will kill them all'. And we all know how this turned out.  |
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Post by Deleted on May 25, 2015 22:38:49 GMT
Now that Sam has given his obsidian dagger to Jon, do you think he will use it to kill an Other at Hardhome. Apparently the WW who brought Craster's last son to NK is in next episode, so could it be that Jon kills that guy? I'm curious about how Hardholme goes. Surely Jon and Tormund survive and get a bunch of wildlings to safety south of the Wall, so it seems like it will go better than in the books. Will it be considered by the characters to be a successful mission? I also don't see Jon being established as a warg this season. If that was going to happen it should have happened already. Which makes me very curious about his future. In the Oxfort interview they joked about Jon warging next season. |
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Post by lordcarson on May 25, 2015 22:40:50 GMT
I'm curious about how Hardholme goes. Surely Jon and Tormund survive and get a bunch of wildlings to safety south of the Wall, so it seems like it will go better than in the books. Will it be considered by the characters to be a successful mission? I also don't see Jon being established as a warg this season. If that was going to happen it should have happened already. Which makes me very curious about his future. In the Oxfort interview they joked about Jon warging next season. That was more a joke about Kit's phrasing, saying he would like to put himself inside a wolf. I want to see him do it, but that was no real hint one way or the other. |
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Post by serpounce on May 25, 2015 22:47:02 GMT
During the rewatch this afternoon, the irony in Cerise's little speech to Tommen really jumped out. "No matter who you are, no matter how strong you are, sooner or later you will face circumstances beyond your control. Events that you couldn't possibly have anticipated or prevented, even if you had." She clearly never dreamed . . . I picked up on that the first time around since I knew what was coming. I think this was really well handled by the show for unsullied who will notice it on the rewatch, which many of the serious ones love to do. |
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